Podcast 5 Transcript

A transcript for Episode 5: YES I LIKE SEXY SEX AS IF I WERE A PROFESSIONAL SEX PERSON (2007-04-09).

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Summary Keywords

people, post, filter, feminists, youtube, sex, fractal, read, cook, totally, call, urban dictionary, mandelbrot, comments, fob, meta, person, questions, david weinberger, week

Transcript

mathowie 0:17 Welcome to episode five of the metal filter podcast. This was recorded on April 6 2006. That was shake your head if yes by Oh, are they from metal filter music?

Jessamyn 0:30 Oh, that's how you pronounce it. I always said Orsi

mathowie 0:33 it's a joke from what do you call it? Not the Royal Tenenbaums. It was on before Rushmore. It's a joke from Rushmore.

Jessamyn 0:39 Oh, really? I've only seen that movie one time.

mathowie 0:42 Yeah, we said like this grubs guy. Oh, yeah, that Oh, our scrubs. Oh, are they? What's the last time we had?

Unknown Speaker 0:50 I guess it was two weeks ago. Two weeks ago.

mathowie 0:55 Yeah, I was just saying your most popular stuff in the last month. It's everything we covered two weeks ago. So I guess I go back to seven days.

Jessamyn 1:02 Yeah, seven days is what I was mostly looking at Elena's more set My Humps

mathowie 1:09 was freaking awesome.

Jessamyn 1:11 I only found out about that because Neil dashes Twitter stream was like Stop sending me this.

mathowie 1:19 It was you didn't see a metaphor was actually the first place I saw it. But I'd never seen the my house video. Have you heard that? Awful, ridiculous song. So I had to like go look up the real video to see that they parodied it really? Well.

Jessamyn 1:33 Yeah, I thought so. I saw the comments on their YouTube though. People were like, What the fuck, you can't even dance to this.

mathowie 1:42 I heard the best. The best thing about YouTube. I saw this week on some other posts was like, I made the mistake of reading the YouTube comments on this great video. It's always a mistake to read YouTube comments. Like perfectly encapsulated how stupid pointless YouTube comments are.

Jessamyn 2:01 Somebody used it as a critique of meta filter. Like there was some dumb post on meta filter and somebody's comment was it's like the YouTube comments are just being ported right here to our website.

And that was like biggest, biggest insult.

mathowie 2:16 I realized that YouTube video view or thing on meta filter actually works pretty well for like, you never have to see that. Like I had watched the video in question that someone was talking about. had really don't comment. So I was like, What are you talking about? And I realized, oh, shit, I didn't have to go to YouTube to see it. Okay, watch it here locally not have to deal with YouTube, which was great. Well, I've

Jessamyn 2:37 been uploading a bunch of stupid little videos to YouTube lately. So that's about the only time I'm ever there.

mathowie 2:42 Did you see the disconnection comment? Comics on Craigslist that are like the Craigslist? Yeah, Craigslist misconnections animated, I guess in a blog or it's on Flickr?

Jessamyn 2:55 I guess. Oh, is that was that a meta filter was Flickr No, it

mathowie 2:59 was on metal filter. It's someone just took like all these ridiculous you know, I saw you at the bus stop you looking so hot, you know, between your digits and all this like crazy. People just write this crazy language. And then someone would animate it it looked like internal beddings work almost like is that like cool style? They're just hilarious. We just someone just imagines what that might look like with all the text

Jessamyn 3:30 well, back when I was living in Seattle, the stranger had stranger Personals and then the presidency United States of America. Remember that band? Yeah. They did a song called I saw you, which was just people reading the personal ads. But you know, the chorus is actually really good.

mathowie 3:50 Let me Yes. And you here's like, here's a Portland misconnection that I thought was funny.

Jessamyn 3:57 Portland, Oregon, or Portland, Maine. Well, that's one of the things that happened. We had a really fun meet up in Portland, Maine. Cortex was there.

mathowie 4:07 Yeah. Oh, yeah. How'd that go? Oh, it's totally fine. Is it worth the two hours through the snow and the sleet and the ice or whatever,

Jessamyn 4:14 I will totally know. The weather was beautiful. No, it was awesome. Totally nice group of people. We'll just have to get more of them out because they're not all like devoted Mettaton readers.

mathowie 4:22 It was only like five or 10 people or

Jessamyn 4:25 10 people at the TV for me. It was like six hours long. Like we just sat around talked and ate and dropped pictures. And you know, it was it was fun. Cortex took some great pictures. Yeah, that's a great comic. Yeah, this

is more about you and your day at the zoo.

mathowie 4:43 This one's like sweet like has a Ripley's Believe It or Not look to it. But some of them are just like hilarious if you like go to that person's stream, like their entire their entire stream is just like eight or 10 of them, I guess their pages in a book, but it's very funny.

Jessamyn 4:58 It looks like gallon 40 Actually,

mathowie 5:01 I think I think they're different comic people doing everyone

Jessamyn 5:05 is pretty much they pretty much have to be.

mathowie 5:09 Yeah, one of them looks kind of what's his name? What's that crazy motherfucker, crumb like some are Chrome like looking? People keep asking me if I should make a Twitter account for metal filter and push every post which I think is really stupid.

Jessamyn 5:28 That's what RSS is for that. No,

mathowie 5:30 I don't think Witter should be used for news dissemination seems

Jessamyn 5:35 well and David Weinberger as much as I love David Weinberger has started pushing his posts through Twitter, kind of like, well, because every now and again, he'll make like four or five posts in a day. And then it's like, tweet, tweet, tweet. I mean, part of it's just people are figuring out how to use them. You know, but it's Paul's part of its people are figuring out how they like to listen to it. And yeah, I'd rather be like had eggs for breakfast than my latest post, click here. Yeah.

mathowie 6:05 There's a whole bunch of YouTube stuff I just didn't even watch. So I don't even feel like covered even though it was pretty high up.

Jessamyn 6:13 I just like the way they the Atlantis Morissette post was like, yeah, it's a one like YouTube post. Like that's all it said. It was 170 comments.

mathowie 6:23 It was very funny. Just because it's so fucking good. You can joke about it. You know, it's gonna be so fucking good.

Jessamyn 6:31 Well, and that's the great example. Right? How about sometimes they're fine. A post

mathowie 6:35 about Mandelbrot zoo, Mandelbrot zoo with 137 comments. I haven't even looked at

Jessamyn 6:41 saw Mandelbrot, and I just kept on reading you down. No idea what that post was about. Oh, I don't care about fractals. I always say is it about fractals? I don't even know what

mathowie 6:51 it is like a movie of an endless fractal like a fractal into a fractal like, but it's like, you

Jessamyn 6:56 know, smoking pot after college. Exactly.

mathowie 6:58 Well, the loop takes forever to you know, finally finish but

Jessamyn 7:03 is it worth it? Is the payoff worth it?

mathowie 7:05 No. I mean, it's just

Jessamyn 7:06 like, yeah, it's just Oh, it's a fractal. It never fucking ends. It's like yeah, it's like iTunes is

mathowie 7:11 visualizations you're like, wow, yeah, I wish I was on drugs right now because it's that probably be so much better. I just can't Yeah, I'm surprised that a Mandelbrot post got 100

Jessamyn 7:21 What did people have to say about it? I didn't I did not read that post

mathowie 7:25 I really liked the military language was good embrace the sack

Jessamyn 7:30 and all the oh yeah all the cool i like the one that FOB It is awesome. Which one

mathowie 7:36 FOB it that somebody never leaves the base.

Jessamyn 7:40 Oh right right

Unknown Speaker 7:42 there's an actual I forget what FOB Bob Oh

mathowie 7:48 person station as secure Forward Operating Base which is fob and then it's a friendly to the confines of fire but this is pretty cool. Like Urban Dictionary can live on? No fucking warzone. Right?

Jessamyn 8:04 I had to go to urban dictionary to tell someone what horrible meant more. Cats stuff. Horrible. Ha RBL. It's like the 4chan sort of way of talking about I don't know cat genitals. But at any rate Wikipedia set up before word so that it just redirects to penis, the Urban Dictionary. I'll tell you where it actually came from. So I've bumped Urban Dictionary higher up on my list of references now. Oh,

mathowie 8:30 urban dictionary has always had a home in my Firefox shortcut search in the upper right. I always have to add it. Yeah, I've always had an urban dish. Because once in a while just be like, you know. I can't remember the last time I've been confused by slang from the youngsters. But once in a while something comes out and you're like, is that a sex term? Like if you come up in any contact once in a while, then you'd be like

Jessamyn 8:55 and you're like, I need to know. Oh, that's fine. Scott your elbow and you put it okay. Mine's got eBay meta filter site search a gorilla, which is an ag database so that I could teach librarians how to use it. And Amazon I think

mathowie 9:12 so. I have a lot that are defaults. I need to remove. Oh, wait, there is a manage. There it is. Did you see you could post to Twitter through that. It's

Jessamyn 9:22 kind of cool. No, that is kind of helpful.

mathowie 9:25 It's just kind of cool. Because it's like instant you install nothing and it just fucking works like it's really cool.

Jessamyn 9:31 Oh, citrus freak. 12 drop me an email wanting to know what you use to record the podcast. Like he dropped me a note on Facebook and said ask Matt and I said I'll probably forget but I just

mathowie 9:44 I think he's described it in the first one. We just I just use Skype on a Mac with this thing called Call Recorder.

Jessamyn 9:50 Do you have the same headset that I do with a Logitech one or is

mathowie 9:54 bought this like $250 row? Oh, that's the one you're using podcast or microphone. It's a real like it's an actual like, studio microphone that's just USB. So you don't have to worry about any settings or anything. Oh, nice. So you just plug it into the computer and it's got a headphone port on the side of it so you can hear your stuff without a delay.

Jessamyn 10:15 Killer. Well, good. That's it for viewer mail then.

mathowie 10:20 Yeah, we should probably Yeah, well, we're bored. We should probably just do you know, metal talk post of people asking us questions. But if people just ask stupid questions, we should probably interview you someday, like me? Yeah. Like,

Jessamyn 10:32 what kind of crazy email do I get to answer is

mathowie 10:35 though, no, just every time I once a week, just out of the blue, I'll just be reading as metaphors or something. I'm just reading the answers up. I, I read asked Metafilter via RSS only just too much to read on the website. And I'll like, I'm always jumping into the relationship train wreck or the childhood train wreck stories and be like, Oh, I'm always like, how did they get out of this one? Or like, wow, I didn't know families did that to each other. And they'll be some, like, I'm losing people's replies. And they'll always be something from you. And it's like, it's always something new. I didn't know about you like, Well, when I was shaving pigs in Romania, like we tended to do this with the owners like

Jessamyn 11:22 yeah, when I when I lived in Eastern Europe.

mathowie 11:24 Yeah, I know, we had to library school when I got married on a first date. And like, all those things need to be compressed in like five minute lightning round of every wacky thing.

Jessamyn 11:36 You know, I've been thinking about that, that I should just build a little timeline Kottke used to have like, a timeline on a blog. That was just like a couple things per year of his entire life. Yeah, yeah. And I thought that's what I needed, highlight or should

mathowie 11:49 be exhaustive, but not, should be like a tag cloud, like just all wedges together in one giant paragraph of like,

Jessamyn 11:57 well, I'm such a nerd that I used to try and keep an index of my blog before it was like, managed by a CMS. So I could be like, these are the posts that reference Transylvania, these are the posts that reference, but it's impossible. It's a totally thankless task and nobody cares. Like, you have to really believe that. Like, there's somebody who really gives a shit about that besides your mom.

mathowie 12:21 Well, now there are but never know.

Jessamyn 12:25 Someone's I think,

mathowie 12:27 yeah, that's true. Famous to 15 people. Right? So what were your favorite aspect of filter posts this week?

Jessamyn 12:34 Well, there was a couple and they were not without not without some controversy, the most like flat out one that other people like that I like to was like, bingo, sort of how to cook. Post. It's, you know, mixing spices and oils. I'm trying to, you know, make half decent stir fry. And there was just, you know, cooking questions bring out good advice without a lot of drama. Generally, yeah. You know, people explain how to cook, they give you good advice. They tell you books to read, and they don't fight. And so it's always great to read because you can bookmark them for later. And then you're like, oh, yeah, cooking oil, and then read one thread and learn a bunch of stuff and figure out other people that know how to cook that you can talk to and be like, blah, blah, blah, yeah, cooking,

mathowie 13:20 cooking desserts, all upside when I think about it, I mean, everyone's helping everyone, like have better food. And like, there are little secrets, you only learn from experience. And people are always asking when they're new to something. So yeah, it's all upside.

Jessamyn 13:34 The exception that proves the rule on those though is the I need to cook something but I have eight friends with these food issues. Yeah. Because those always turn into the you tell your friend that can't eat wheat, dairy and sugar that they need to bring a box lunch, you know?

mathowie 13:50 Well, that a lot of that is like do my homework for me. It's like you've just given us the worst GRE question in the world about a table and who can't like I'm sorry.

Jessamyn 14:00 Right. I used to love those questions. Speaking of like, I got I got a perfect score on that part of my GRE. I did. I liked it. I liked it. Yeah, because it's just math. There's a lot of writing stuff down. Exactly. Making a little box make a little box. I also liked feminist porn lovers from yesterday. And the reason I liked it was because it was clearly somebody who was trying to have a discussion with somebody who didn't agree with them, but instead of saying it was somebody looking for pro pornography, writing by feminists

mathowie 14:35 centric stories or something, nothing about like

Jessamyn 14:40 stories, but like No, like Lit Crit stuff, like it used to be that feminists were anti porn. And then that changed and feminists became a wide variety of people, many of whom were not anti porn. But depending on who you talk to, and you know porn still kind of a controversial issue, but there's a lot of kind of Smarty women And men actually talking about who sort of the sex positive feminists were, like starting as a feminist and being someone who can sort of get along with porn not starting as somebody who's really into porn? And are you or are you not a feminist? And what was so great about this was that Suzy bright who hasn't met a filter account, not one before, I dropped her an email and said, you might want to check out this thread. And she did. So there's a big Suzy brown like, Oh, hey, this is great. And I have a ton of good information and blah, blah, blah. And I just like it when a plan comes together like that, you know what I mean?

mathowie 15:38 Yeah, so these are like people have just written about the subject of pornography.

Jessamyn 15:43 from an academic perspective. Now, Ben makes Oh, sorry. Yeah, Matilda, Ben makes a really good point that like when her and I were roughly college age, that's when the big shift was happening, you know, between like, we're ominous and tell with people who disagree with us. And anything that keeps down the sisterhood is bad. To know actually, we like to wear lipstick or dress how we want and date our boyfriends or girlfriends or boyfriends and girlfriends. And, and that's okay, and you can still be a feminist. And it was an interesting time to be sort of a young woman who was politically active. And so it's interesting seeing people capture some of that cool, as opposed to the dirty words during sex posts, which had probably the most favorited comment of the entire week

mathowie 16:34 was to God, yes, I know what you're talking about. Because I think

Jessamyn 16:39 a guy who has a girlfriend who wants him to call her nasty names. Yeah.

mathowie 16:43 Which is I find, yeah, I'm just like the person that posted it. Like, it's a little weird for me. I wouldn't feel bad afterwards. But like, the person who says, I'm having sex with God, what is that? Like? You

Jessamyn 16:55 like the sex? Your person likes the sex acts?

mathowie 16:59 Yeah, cutting through the meaning and all dirty sex talk. It was

Jessamyn 17:03 great. You like sex? In fact, you're a person who likes sex as much as a prostitute like sex? Yes, I like sexy sex as if it were my profession. Tell me more about it.

mathowie 17:15 Enjoy the sex you sexy sex person?

Jessamyn 17:19 Cetera? Yeah, well, and I thought it really just cut to the point explained why, you know, maybe your girlfriend wants you to call her a whore. And you know, other people pointed out later in the thread, like, Look, dude, if you don't like it, it's still okay for you to not want to do it. Who is it? Clay to one? I forget what clay is like, yeah, Clay 201. He chimes in on a lot of the BDSM and kink questions. But he's like, look, it's totally reasonable to have limits. Because if you don't have limits, then you're doing a bunch of things you don't want to do. And that kind of negates the purpose of it. So he always has like, really, really good advice. Yeah. He's like doing things that make you uncomfortable will lead to you doing nothing. And that would be a shame. But yeah, that was my favorite comment of the whole week. It's great. Because it made everybody laugh. Yeah. And it was

mathowie 18:15 true. It was made you think, and it made you laugh, and it cut to the hole. There's a lot of painful, weird stuff in the middle of it. Right?

Jessamyn 18:26 Well, yeah, and I think discussing those things is difficult, but kind of nice in asking Metafilter if people can do it without calling each other names, and if other people can kind of be like, Oh, I think I understand why this might be a problem. And other people are like, Oh, I hadn't thought about it that way. And then you're like, oh, this system works.

mathowie 18:45 These are some relationship cluster fucks you can make a freakin sitcom out of AskMe Metafilter sometime or drama.

Jessamyn 18:53 I kind of think that would be great. Right? Like instead of the comic book about the I saw you or misconnection saying you have like a weekly YouTube sitcom of whatever the relationships. Yeah, I mean, how awesome would that be? That would be awesome.

mathowie 19:08 That about wraps up episode five of the metaphor podcast. Join us next week for more reviews and possibly interviews with PIP from netfilter