Podcast 36 Transcript

A transcript for Episode 36: Thousands of little poops (2009-01-02).

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Unknown Speaker 0:07 Gentlemen, welcome to the Metafilter odd cast.

mathowie 0:12 Welcome to Episode 36 of the metal filter podcast. We cover our favorite posts from the best post contest for December. And it was quick recaps from other sections of the site. Why don't we just do the best of the best? First and foremost?

Jessamyn 0:27 Sounds great.

mathowie 0:30 I guess it was go round with our our pile Oh, favorites, and I'm sure we'll get consensus. I think number one, for sure. Is the classic animation remixed post

Jessamyn 0:40 about I think there was kind of no question, right? Yeah,

mathowie 0:43 history of Cartoon Network and the like, the backstory on it. I've been working on this post for six months and collecting links like, like, that's just astounding, when you think about, you know, I've usually worked on a post for 28 seconds. Like, I just go, oh, that's neat. I'm gonna put on metal filter. You know,

Jessamyn 1:01 I know people who have like posts that they're kind of crafting over. I mean, like, not on display, like works on them for like weeks. He has some little text file and like, keeps adding stuff to it. Oh, yeah. I just, it's really not how I roll. But yeah,

mathowie 1:15 I don't think I've met a filter post is like wooden Art Craft objects that need to be whittled over months. I just think of him is that you just chunk. It's out?

Cortex 1:28 What's that? That's what happens when we hold a contest, though. Well,

Jessamyn 1:31 and I was really happy actually, I don't know for me, like plan this or not, but like, saving this till December 30 meant that other people didn't get totally depressed on like December 3, and be like, Oh, fuck it, why bother. And you know, December 30, like I was around, like being like, I need a little time off from my family. So I could go click, click, click, click, click, and it was a good time to have a good meaty post to look at.

mathowie 1:56 I noticed that a lot of the comments seem to be about people that live through this time period, it feels like the whole post is talking about the history from like, what like mid 90s to like late 90s as Cartoon Network and Adult Swim kind of got situated and came up with like, a reason to use like six minute cartoons that seem off the wall like you have no.

Jessamyn 2:18 So they were working on this for a couple of weeks. I don't know where the six month thing came from? Red month,

mathowie 2:23 somewhere, we'll get into weeks, weeks,

Cortex 2:26 but yeah, is what you're saying about? I think, let's see how many more noises I can make that aren't words?

mathowie 2:39 Well, I bring it up, because it's like, I felt like I'm just out of the demo, like, like from 95 to 99. Say, you know, instead of being 16 to 20, where people on metadata are totally like, oh my god, this is my child, like, whatever this is like when college hit and I had all the time in the world to watch cartoons. And I loved every one of these. I was sort of like I was in the thick of grad school and like didn't even own didn't have cable during that time. So, but I've seen about quarter to half of these things here and there, like years later, so I didn't get to live to the history part of it. But definitely, I could tell like holy shit as a good post.

Cortex 3:17 Well, yeah, I mean, that's exactly where I was, I was I was, you know, in college, I remember the first time I saw space ghosts, and it just blew my mind. I was like, This is the greatest thing in the history of the world. And having this gigantic resource really laid out so nicely by rail me, is, it's just crazy. You know, I mean, I always like when people do a nice YouTube roundup of something or other. In general, if it's something I haven't spent enough time looking at, but something like this, it's like, here's a documented roadmap of everything that you were, and somehow weren't paying attention to, you know, for like, this vital, you know, beer drinking video game playing period of your life, as opposed to this period of my life where I was, but, but I'm not in my early 20s anymore. That's the point.

Jessamyn 4:04 I'm gonna have to make one of those, like, Is this one of those things, I would need a TV. But I can appreciate and well, it's even better this way, right? Because then I can watch everything that was awesome about this without having to. I mean, whatever. I know, a lot of the old. The old shorts that were stuff when I was a kid, you know. And then and then flipping forward, it's really sort of extra cool. And anytime, I mean, you know, everybody's got kind of a palate cleansing thing they do on the web, where they're like, I'm just gonna, like, look at Flickr for a little bit. I'm just gonna click through this or I'm gonna check out FARC or whatever. Like, this post is actually like, Oh, I haven't seen that hillbilly video yet. And then you can go back and know that you're only gonna get stuck there for a couple minutes, a couple days.

mathowie 4:49 And we were talking sort of over email before we sat down to record about we don't want the winners to be to YouTube heavy it doesn't but for some reason This I don't feel like this like half wiki PDS style, and like YouTube supports everything that guy's saying. But it doesn't feel like you know, strict YouTube posts to me. Well, and

Jessamyn 5:11 I always think of like the the YouTube posts that we don't like, as much have more to do with like, lack of context or like it's kind of stupid or like, you have to watch the whole thing to be like, I totally don't understand this, like this is telegraphed. And it's like, you just need to go on YouTube to look at Yeah, YouTube's the host beneath the Flintstones. It's, it's much more clearly the hosting platform and something Yes,

Cortex 5:32 rather than I want you to, in fact around and look what I found and hey, which I mean, it's fine. But But I think the the circus that that sort of curatorial thing going on with this is really kind of what stands out for me.

mathowie 5:45 Let me see what was the other Oh, I guess I'll move on to my second favorite. I'm sure there'll be overlap here. I think we all agree that was number one, two, and three, you know, this is gonna require a discussion. I love the men Jhula. Kitchen, how well could my kitchen you know, here's how to cook. Lawyers post. Yeah, here's how to cook Indian food. What I loved most about this is like, this really lives up to every promise that the web had 10 years ago, in that, someday we'll have this global platform or anyone with a $300 camera can like you know, be awesome teach the world you know, with the whatever that things you know, you can share with the entire world using these off the shelf things and you don't need money at all to do this. Everything can be low budget, and it can be amazing. And you could like make a lot of people happy with like, very little startup capital. And you know, she doesn't even need to be like treated like a business. I will be pissed if like this man, Julius kitchen.com is actually owned by like Betty Crocker or something. And this is awesome bullshit, because it looks like holy shit looks like some shabby little apartment you know with like, regular cookware and everything.

Jessamyn 7:02 Maybe it's viral and that makes the brain is

Cortex 7:07 actually by the willit blend guy is trying to break into the yes side of the blender. Right right.

mathowie 7:13 Right like it's a massive pioneer company or something in India that secretly funding this there's some civil by more cheese's I hope it's it seems awesome and amateurish in all the best ways not to like put it down, but it's great. And personally, where I live, we have zero Indian places like I have to go to drive an hour to get Indian food. Yeah, you

Jessamyn 7:35 know, so do I have to go to the next state? But I mean, the next day, it's not that far. I've been there once today already, but still, I feel your pain. Yeah, like,

mathowie 7:44 you know, I lived in LA and San Francisco Indian food is twice a week like it's vegetarian. That's like, you know, I don't eat hardly any chicken and no meat. Besides from that, so. Oh, God, it was great. I really want to like try some of this stuff myself. And yes, we basically have to make Indian food at home or drive an hour that happens once every three months.

Jessamyn 8:04 And then you can update your weight loss plan on skinnier I just got out today. So yeah, so hard. My charts got one dot right in the middle of it now.

mathowie 8:14 You can add it to your like iPhone so I just basically grab that and put it in the morning you know, I just tried to take my way at the exact same time. Um, what was the other thing

Jessamyn 8:26 I had a cold a whole bunch of like kind of awesome also rants you know, like, where I was like I love this post but it's it's niche enough that I don't know if I would put it like up for like best post but I really feel like honorable mention. You have a couple honorable mentions. Do we have a chat window open? Did I?

mathowie 8:45 I think you're in the wrong window. Yeah. Find.

Cortex 8:49 I've been silent here because I think mental is kitchen crash my browser.

Jessamyn 8:54 What is wrong with your substandard tech today?

Unknown Speaker 8:57 I don't know. I have made a fail.

mathowie 8:59 Are you on the air? Yeah, I guess this sounds pretty high end or something? I guess I'll talk about like, I mean, I don't think they did

Cortex 9:08 this. This this Macintosh was actually made by Steve top

Unknown Speaker 9:13 to top

mathowie 9:16 rate crapples actually.

Jessamyn 9:20 This was this was one that I like because it's December right? So there were some good thenI Fimi posts about like holiday time and this one was basically about great 20th century Christmas songs written by Jewish people. Because a lot of people don't know that a lot of the really popular this was a Hitler songs.

mathowie 9:45 The knowledge I gained from this post was a hit at a party I want to

Jessamyn 9:48 see exactly and that's you know, I would like meta filter to sort of take the role that NPR previously has something interesting to talk about it parties, and this is so much more into Staying in like whatever the fuck marketplace is talking about. Give Well can I just say how pleased I was to have New Year's Eve without my laptop?

mathowie 10:10 Oh, yeah. Oh god that was last year. Hmm.

Jessamyn 10:13 New Year's Eve. I know people are like, where's your laptop? I'm like, I'm not freakin working on fire.

mathowie 10:19 We're officially done with the holiday season. Not one crazy crappy meltdown. I mean, last five years, this has just been Thanksgiving Christmas and New Year's something horrible

Jessamyn 10:29 how pow pow. Yeah, no, this was good. Yay. I blame you, Josh.

Cortex 10:33 Yes, I I accept full responsibility.

mathowie 10:38 So yes, at a Christmas party, I could rattle off pretty much every Christmas song was written by Gu and just like, isn't that just oddly hilarious? Like, but you know, wow.

Jessamyn 10:49 Yeah. And I liked that post. I liked that post a lot. And then the other posts that I liked a lot. Once again, kind of honorable mention just because I enjoyed it so much was the Beverly Hillbillies casino post. I didn't see that. It didn't get a whole bunch of favorites. But for some reason, it just cracked me up basically Max Baer, the guy that played Jethro on the Beverly Hillbillies. If you want to talk about back when I had a television has the the rights from CBS to use the theme and he's like starting like a crazy Vegas. I think it's in Vegas. Casino. Yes, yes. Wow. Why? No, right. Hmm. So I enjoyed that post very much a strange

mathowie 11:32 bit of nostalgia, right to like, right. 1972 And it's a call back to like a 60s show. Like it's when was that show?

Jessamyn 11:43 hillbillies? I don't know. I watched it when I was a kid.

mathowie 11:45 Like late 60s or something. So we I guess,

Cortex 11:49 maybe the Do you know the weird aisle? Or the Weird Al song? Beverly Hillbillies. The Dire Straits parity. Oh, right. Yeah. Wait. Money For Nothing. Yeah, no, yeah, it's great. You should track it down. But it's 60. I had like these 71. It had these really primitive computer graphics and it's dire straits. But it's you know, the Beverly Hillbillies done up like not Mark Knopfler. But I saw that and heard that before I'd ever actually been exposed to the actual Beverly Hillbillies. So it was well, I'm weird. I was a real weird gateway for a lot of stuff like that. Actually. I think we had weird Alan 3d on cassette. I listen to that. Or I'd heard like any of the actual classic rock songs from the classic rock polka. Eventually, I heard Smoke on the Water and it wasn't weird. I'll go into my oh god the water. You know, it was mind blowing. Oh, yeah, exactly. So weird. Al shout out. That's that's all

mathowie 12:46 I think I thought of the Beverly Hillbillies. Oh, that's that horrible old quote unquote, sitcom that my parents like, you know, I just like that. And Lucy. I just never watched more than a second of, but yeah, what an odd thing to like.

Jessamyn 13:01 I think I watched them all because we lived in the country.

mathowie 13:03 Right? It was like clearly documentary.

Jessamyn 13:08 I mean, I went yeah, I mean, not exactly. But like, I knew people that were more like that. And that whole kind of weird. Get Rich, quick kind of thing. I mean, that's what the whole thing was about in the Beverly Hillbillies. Were rich, but we ain't got no culture

mathowie 13:22 66 to 71 Was it?

Jessamyn 13:24 62 To 71 September 71. It went off the air. So it's like,

mathowie 13:28 let's make a casino. That's that's like nostalgic for people that watch TV and we're 20 years old then because they're 60 now and have plenty of time to gamble. It's weird. It's boomers. Yeah, like like I'm just imagining in 2025 there's going to be a Miami Vice Casino. Are you going to roll up your sleeves and grow your

Jessamyn 13:48 news for you about casinos? What they're all like that? Every casino so Miami Vice casino

Cortex 13:54 Miami Vice one will actually have shirts that you get when you walk in the door Yeah. He'll put on the

mathowie 14:01 way the wakeup calls will be by wham so

my one of my also RANS is the the what do you call it?

Jessamyn 14:16 Every cover securing you make that

mathowie 14:20 every cover song of rainbow connection by everybody but you know not like one of the best but actually I didn't even see that. That was a gateway this song like Napster was a gateway to me finding me first and the gimme gimme is doing it and then finding out that was like a joke band with no effects and all these other guys and then I went to all those bands. So yeah, correct me. I don't know who me firstly give me give me is it's like a super group of like four or five goofball bands that just did shitty cover song well, like goofy cover songs. But that was something I just randomly picked up on Napster in 1999. And

Jessamyn 14:58 that was a punk rock. supergroup associated with no effects the Foo Fighters no use for a name and lag wagon.

mathowie 15:05 And I ended up basically sucking down every album by all those I became a huge lag wagon fan.

Jessamyn 15:11 Really? Well why don't I just click this? faster than you can?

mathowie 15:18 I was showing Napster to a friend I remember 9099 going do you look at this thing look at this band. I had never heard of lag wagon. Okay, look, here's the new album. I'm gonna click it and then check all these progress bars 12345 I'm done with the album that just took 28 seconds like I had this humongous cable modem at the time. And that was just a friend is just like eyeballs falling out his head like like you'd like fiber at home right? Well now I do but this was like I was in like before that Yes. Markets for LA's first cable modems and they were super fast cheese. It was great.

Cortex 15:52 Yeah. And I liked this one too. And it's sort of like honorary mention level for me too, because it's like, it's nice. It's a sort of post that I really enjoy. But But yeah, it's not the mind blowing. But yeah, I really like I've gotten kind of a cover. Cover. Sucker. A sucker for covers. That's better. I'm a cover sucker. Yeah, that's let's, let's.

mathowie 16:17 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Are you talking about something else?

Cortex 16:20 Or no, no, I was just talking about that. The rainbow connection there thing. Kevin.

mathowie 16:27 Terkel and I like, yeah,

Cortex 16:28 I want to say that's another one of the winners. Yeah. Because study. trickles post

Jessamyn 16:35 Cercle study. Yeah, I

Unknown Speaker 16:37 can't even talk dead turtles. I never, you know, the stinky Texas in charge of beer drinking. Yes.

mathowie 16:43 I never heard of Studs Terkel to like 2000 in the 2000s when Michael Morell constantly referenced him and then I had to kind of go back and figure out who he was.

Jessamyn 16:52 That always cracks me up when you admit things like that? Yeah.

mathowie 17:00 A few years, right. And radio is the only lefty on NPR or something or beyond that.

Jessamyn 17:05 Well, he basically invented the sort of oral history interview was something that was like, you know, normal people talking about normal things. Plus, he was sort of an activist plus, yeah. And then NPR started going all over him. And it became less cool to like, sets charcoal, it's like a dish.

mathowie 17:25 It's like, what's the other thing that I just got? Like in the last four years, we 2004 discovered People's History of the United States and Howard Zinn and his entire world. Like, didn't

Jessamyn 17:37 you go to college?

mathowie 17:38 I know not real. Science. Me.

Jessamyn 17:42 I studied dirt.

mathowie 17:43 Yes, great. Science majors don't have to actually expand their mind. Yeah, so I've just in the last few years come around to like all the amazing shit he's done over the last zillion years.

Jessamyn 17:55 Well, the great thing about historical stuff to me is I mean, you get that like, going through these links. It's like, he's, he gets people to really talk about things that are interesting. It's like people used to talk that way about Errol Morris, when he would interview people for fast, cheap and out of control or whatever they like. He takes people who are kind of weird, and gets them to tell you the stories that you're really interested in, you know, instead of being like, no, no, no, you should be totally into this person. And you're like, you know, studs struggle gets people to talk about their lives in a way that makes people who aren't like them interested as opposed to like, oh, this person is different, this person's whatever. So you know, Cambodians who lived in in under the Khmer Rouge, like people affected by Katrina, you know, people in Hawaii, I mean, so interesting. Yeah, that you wouldn't even think that they would have these fascinating stories that you would totally want to know about. And then yeah,

mathowie 18:46 and Miko. Miko deserves some props for every one of these links goes to a completely

Cortex 18:53 like, like, yeah, it's like, it's like classic, classic sort of unearthing stuff. Yeah, it's really great.

mathowie 19:01 Here is like one mentioned that 20 levels deep on an old college server. Here's what I mean, this isn't just someone going through a search engine that YouTube, it's pretty bad. Oh, and it's

Jessamyn 19:09 all really good oral history. stuff, too. I mean, and it's like Nietzsche stuff again. And, you know, libraries do this stuff all the time. They're like, we want to put together this oral history stuff. And then they get the money and they record it. And then they are like, they put it on the web. And then it like sits there in some corner of the web until someone like me goes like, let's put this all together and attach it to Studs Terkel, who you know, who's died recently and pay attention you know, that the voices from basket America, I wouldn't need a ton of photos there to I'd say

mathowie 19:43 the studs ones probably almost in the top three running probably is probably almost think we all I don't know what else would push it out. I would say it's in the top three. It's either three.

Cortex 19:55 It's such it's such a classic sort of encyclopedia post two and that you know, it's got like three times As many favorites as it does comments. Yes, yeah, but he's just too busy reading too.

Jessamyn 20:04 And as like the Adult Swim post, which I also thought was awesome. There are no fap fap fap competence

Cortex 20:15 somewhere there's an all dot all dot stories dot sex dot stud

mathowie 20:24 I think the film Scout one's kind of like one of the also RANS. But I mean kind of cool is the single link of a new blog. It's just so good. I don't know if that's posted the month but like, oh, man, what a great Yeah,

Cortex 20:36 it's like this. It's this. It's a great site. And it's, it's not something that hadn't necessarily been flying around constantly, as far as I mean, maybe it was,

mathowie 20:45 I saw it making the rest here first, I was amazed that somebody's still running the blog, I guess they haven't done very many posts. I was like, this basically puts them out of business. This is them. I mean, this is them literally sharing, like what they get paid to do. So you could just read the blog and you know, go into that business, copying everything they have.

Jessamyn 21:08 It's hard though being a film scout. I mean, my uncle's wife is a is a, like a location scout. And it's like, it's so much more about like, knowing like, you have like a list of like, 2000 secret places, and then you use them as well as like the million people that you know, and I actually didn't see this blog the first time around, but it's surprisingly difficult actually. Oh, God, I and this is all new york anyhow. Right? Was this is all new york anyhow. Yeah.

mathowie 21:37 And I mean, I've seen amazing views and thought about I mean, with like a photographer's brain thought, This is great. This would be great and x, but like if I was a location scout, man, I would have to be just on road trips. 30 weeks of the year, constantly looking for stuff. I mean, just sounds like seems like like I guess like blogging, you have to read 2000 Lead Pages to find the two or three that are interesting.

Cortex 22:01 Yeah. And I think what you're saying about putting himself out of business really probably, you know, not not so much an issue just because you have to think about how much stuff he goes through. Compared to this, this is gonna be just like a tiny handful of the cool stuff. So I mean, it probably really works. I could see it working really well as a resume anyway. And

Jessamyn 22:19 you have to know like, 7000 people who are doing the same stuff, anyhow. Yeah. And he's and he's anonymous, right? Yeah. So basically, if you look at the FAQ, he's like, I'm not like these. I'm given special, you know, privileges. So this isn't this isn't a tell all kind of thing.

mathowie 22:36 Yeah, what was cool about that post you just sent.

Jessamyn 22:40 Oh, that was just the fucking there's a fucking farmhouse in Queens entry on that blog. Wow. Like one of the pictures is like look at this farmhouse. It's in fucking queens. Oh my god. Like I think one of the things that's awesome about that blog is how like, into it the guy is right like he's really into it and like, oh my god, this is so interesting. And again, it's like the the oral history stuff. What's the finding the interesting thing and sending it across the abandoned

mathowie 23:04 school at the top of that post reminds me of I have to drive when I go through Salem, maybe once a month. I have to go by the you know, what's the super super famous? Jack Nicholson? Crazy man?

Jessamyn 23:17 Oh, the shine the shining? No, no, the

mathowie 23:20 mental asylum. Oh, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Yeah, I go right. By the cuckoo's nest building. Basically, it's right on the main drag. It's basically boys. Yeah, that was out there. That's yeah, yeah, it was filmed there. So but you said It's boarded up. It basically looks like the second photo in this post. It's just sort of like fences and boarded up when it's haunting. And

Unknown Speaker 23:44 that's why it's a little too scary.

mathowie 23:47 Josh, how about that next one. I saw you just flashed it

Cortex 23:50 up. Oh, yeah. The RadioShack post from Dave bush. That was great. It's just it's just a giant collection of old RadioShack catalogs that they're they're posting these go

mathowie 24:03 lash interface for thumbing through them kind of locked up my browser for a minute, but after that got over that hiccup at work kind of cool.

Unknown Speaker 24:13 Yeah, it's

Jessamyn 24:14 got a bunch of ads on it that I don't see. Oh, God, that interface sucks. I

mathowie 24:18 know. It's kind of well, it's kind of trying to relive what catalog browsing feels like.

Cortex 24:24 And everybody's ever was in love with that stupid page turner. Little bit of flash right now. Yeah, I've seen it fucking.

mathowie 24:29 Oh, really? I haven't seen it before.

Jessamyn 24:31 I've never seen it before. You go to

Cortex 24:34 you know, the weird ones.

I feel like I've seen it like, you know, I don't see it on like the really big ones. Like I think some of the better off sites I've seen, like, dabbled with it briefly when that first came out. Because I remember being like, oh, look what somebody figured out. But it seems like a lot of smaller ones that are like they don't really know what they're doing with their UI. They're like, Oh, this is awesome. Let's just like this analog. Yeah,

mathowie 25:00 I love that because I thought I just sort of in my mind is like my favorite RadioShack thing ever was this giant electronic sort of kit thing with all the springs and you can you close circuits you make stuff I had one of those electronic Project Kit yeah so I went I'm just gonna pick 1980 Because I'm thinking this is between 79 and 82 My brother got that giant one for Christmas I pulled up the ad catalog it took me I don't know 80 pages to find it but there it was. And I was blown away by it how much fuckin real estate they

Jessamyn 25:34 devoted on Flickr I love this thing.

mathowie 25:37 How much they devoted to like audio equipment like I don't remember my parents or or you know, adults being so into audio equipment, but I mean, they're literally called RadioShack but it was like 50 pages of just awful speakers and amps and stuff and trends.

Cortex 25:54 AV hadn't really picked up so much compared to

mathowie 25:57 what it was like 1980 I only remember it is like soldered guns and wires I know remember this

Jessamyn 26:03 you have to go there all the time I got dragged as a kid my dad would like build his own speakers from crap at RadioShack I spent more time at RadioShack than probably any other store in the you know late 70s early oh man

mathowie 26:15 this is awesome the 150 projects we made like emotional arm once out of it It took all

Jessamyn 26:21 radio like countdown timer thing yeah it's really

Cortex 26:26 really awesome jacket on the on the cover of the 1980 Catalog.

Jessamyn 26:30 I liked the little page tourney noise it makes it makes noise I didn't hear that in the headset.

mathowie 26:36 I didn't have my sound up it's probably gonna lock up my browser open it up again where's it cuz he

Jessamyn 26:43 can't hear me turning the pages Yeah, God did this WordPress is IT system is $6,000 I hope it comes with that lady for that price. This is like the crappiest oldest computer in the world. And it's $6,000 I love

mathowie 27:00 the first page of the 1981 because it's like a cordless extension phone and its underlying it's $200 for a single cordless phone.

Jessamyn 27:09 There's a paddle pinball game you can buy for only 20 bucks. Haunted House I had haunted house.

mathowie 27:16 Wow real the real who had that Jesus

Jessamyn 27:19 I had I had a reel to reel

mathowie 27:21 $1,800 it like 19 $80 That's like a bazillion today don't

Cortex 27:26 real was the shit man.

Jessamyn 27:28 Hey Sir cost 40 bucks is Sark is free on the internet now.

Cortex 27:34 A little bit of deflation on that front. This economic crisis is released acoustic

Jessamyn 27:39 coupler modems for 150 bucks. Wow. That matrix printers $1,500 I

mathowie 27:45 wish we could bring back the speaker grilles with the diamond pattern on him and wood.

Unknown Speaker 27:49 Oh, I love those. But really can't

mathowie 27:53 link to any page

Cortex 27:53 stupid flat. Yeah, that's kind of shit.

mathowie 27:56 Can you not know it's flashed stupid?

Cortex 28:00 Yeah, it's all just a served up from the applet. The outfits though? Yeah, if you only look nostalgically at the outfits of one RadioShack catalog this year, make it 1980. Oh, man.

Jessamyn 28:12 screencaptures put it you know, yeah.

mathowie 28:16 There's a wonderful array of mustaches.

Cortex 28:19 Yeah, it was a it was a good year for mustaches in the RadioShack catalog. Yeah. Wow. But yeah, and I just yeah, it's it's one of those things where I think there's nothing really that amazing about a RadioShack catalog per se, but just this giant time suck, where you can say, oh, that's kind of neat. And then 15 minutes later, you realize you've been paging through RadioShack catalogs? Oh, I think this

Jessamyn 28:40 is that's what I did.

mathowie 28:42 Oh, this was like the Sears. I mean, this is you know, this comes from a long line of people scanning their childhood nostalgia, like the Sears catalog archive, you know that we are all going apeshit over whatever, two months ago, three months ago. Yeah. You know, I remember poring over the Christmas catalog Bible and stuff and RadioShack same thing. listenings came in the mail just all the time, it seemed like

Jessamyn 29:07 any other anybody else, look at the rd posts besides me.

Cortex 29:11 I don't look at arty posts. They're all already.

mathowie 29:14 I looked at the Art tag. I look at the art tag. And then I looked at which ones were like, you know, visited links the most. And the one I said I liked the guy doing the pill art is like I clicked on everything he had done.

Jessamyn 29:30 Which was the pill art one.

mathowie 29:34 Some guy who takes photographs and breaks them down into pixels kind of using like pharmaceuticals. Oh, yeah. So like Viagra is blue and stuff like that and to serve Oh, hardball pixel art.

Cortex 29:49 No, that was nice. That was a there was another pixel art one two that I think people were kind of less impressed with the actual art but I really liked there was a hanging Kirkland VW bus was one of the exhibits. I thought that was pretty great.

Jessamyn 30:06 Oh, I saw that one. That was good.

Cortex 30:10 I think all in all, this one's like stronger.

Jessamyn 30:13 Yeah, no, I like that one too, that my my also ran honorable mention for the rd runnerup post, which we explained briefly in Mettaton somewhere else, but basically Woodlock 100 Does a he's a woodblock guy, he makes these awesome woodblock prints and we add a link to his store on the Metafilter Mall. And he has kind of like a little affiliate thing. So he's like a bunch of people, you know, a bunch of people bought stuff. Thanks, everybody. And so here's some affiliate cash and I'm like, What are we going to do with that? And so we just decided to have one of his one of his little prints as a runner up, rd. Post thing which will

mathowie 30:53 work one of the recent RT posts was the ODF a link for his woodcut stuff or whatever it is.

Jessamyn 31:00 Yeah, he's at Wood block.com It's an awesome website actually.

mathowie 31:03 checked out a long time ago. I'm used to sucky wood block people who only do it in one color. This is crazy.

Jessamyn 31:10 Yeah, he's amazing. Yeah, this

mathowie 31:11 is like pletely amazing with God. This is like five colors. This is insane. And he's nice.

Jessamyn 31:17 And I got I got prints for both my parents last year. And like we're because, you know, they come in kind of a cool envelope and they just look awesome.

mathowie 31:26 I was gonna mention this dork bought art posts.

Jessamyn 31:30 I enjoyed the dark bot art posts. Oh, get

mathowie 31:32 this someone from the door, a dork bot meeting posting to the Nephi. Someone took a photo of someone at a dork bot meeting, posting to that thread. I thought, oh, like, whoa,

Jessamyn 31:49 that's Matt. I mean, that's Matt the tube. He's tube on metal filter. He's the one that used to be in the circus sideshow.

mathowie 31:55 Then who's bill? Another picture of some other member making posts or something? Or maybe he's posting under tubes? I don't think there is Bill be down below. is a photo of someone taking this comment, kind of? I don't know. That doesn't happen every day.

Jessamyn 32:15 Are you sure it doesn't happen every day? They don't put it on Flickr. You know, there have been fewer and fewer meetup photographs lately. Have you guys noticed that? Yeah.

mathowie 32:24 It's been they've been really talking about that. No, we haven't talked about that. I noticed that just I think people

Jessamyn 32:31 just kind of know each other. And now they don't like, hang out and take pictures and do shout outs as much.

Cortex 32:36 I think it's like people have gone to enough meetups. I mean, obviously, there's new people going to meetups for the first time all the time. But but still people who have sort of become a part of the regular meetup culture are so used to it and have taken pictures of each other so many times.

Jessamyn 32:49 If you look at another set of photos of the same people,

mathowie 32:53 if you look at that past meetups page, just like looking the last three months it used to be you could look back to the summer, every single meetup has five people's photos and then the last two months, it's like half of them do and this one person or two,

Jessamyn 33:08 right? I've been to meetups with you know no camera picture taking and I'm gonna there's gonna be a meetup in Toronto. Me and G Man are gonna have a meetup

Unknown Speaker 33:18 nice. Yes.

Jessamyn 33:22 And other people up there

mathowie 33:26 with Shared Lives he was just said la meetup. It looks like

Jessamyn 33:30 Oh, dude. Awesome. There he these are my other two brief runners up for rd. I also liked and this is just vaguely vaguely art, but the 100 cereal box covers was a fun thread. Oh, yeah. Even though it was short, but it's the same kind of thing like Hello 1975 People are like represent. And I enjoyed this one a lot too, which was about Maria de los Remedios Varo Runga she's Remedios Faro. And she's this sort of amazing surrealist artist or surrealist ish, whatever. You can look at the post. But I just liked it because it was like a nice classic, almost like, wow, you know, solid standard post. And if you didn't know about her, you would learn about her. And if you didn't know about her, I'd like know a couple of her things. Oh, it's a really good collection

mathowie 34:22 was like art history. 101 and a cup. Just awesome. Wow, this was some crazy paintings. I would say this, that that's the picture that I know. That's our woodblock winner right here.

Jessamyn 34:33 Do you think so? Yeah. That's cool. Yay, cheese digests all who is not a member I'm familiar with. In fact, I really think what we need to do at some point is have like a column where people say what their favorite username is, because I've been seeing what we're seeing. juicebox hero was one that I saw a couple of. There's just a couple of like usernames that just make me laugh and I'm sure everybody's got a different one. So Yes, Cheese digests all whose website is gorgonzola.org is actually pretty good. Now I'm wondering if I know this guy? No, he doesn't look familiar. So

mathowie 35:12 if you think our top three will be the Cartoon Network One, the Indian food one and Studs Terkel?

Jessamyn 35:18 Yes, well, I think history

mathowie 35:21 yeah started second maybe

Jessamyn 35:24 I doesn't matter or this or this. Yeah, there's

mathowie 35:27 differences in winning this. I think we all three like studs and the Cartoon Network. Yes. And one of us hated the Indian food post, right?

Cortex 35:40 Oh, I didn't, I didn't hate it. I just wasn't as into it. Whatever. It was a good post. You know, it's one of the things we're like, you know, there's bands who are very good, who you just don't happen to personally get into. It's like, when I listen to Broken Social Scene. I'm like, Yes, this is a really good album. I just said I'm never listening to at all. Well, you know, that's the thing. I come back and I listened to it like every couple of months and so yep, I still don't really like it. Okay, so it was kind of like that. That was a Broken Social Scene of posts.

mathowie 36:07 Second, Indian food third. Alright, ambrosia well, your third, Miko second first was re Omi. Okay, I'll contact them. See what they want to do.

Cortex 36:21 And she's digests all for the free woodblocks see? Extra post.

mathowie 36:27 Should we recap really quick? I loved favorite. What was your Oh, I guess we didn't talk about last time. So because we record on like December 2 Or third. But the really remember cortex, you wanted to mention the song The Christmas Rhapsody song was so freakin Great. Oh, yeah. And then it's just like the most epic, amazing Christmas song. You know, we had the whole holiday thing for the month, right?

Cortex 36:55 Yeah, that was just and I think that was actually I think an older recording by the person who posted it. But it was just Yeah. Which was really fantastic. I think I mentioned that in the thread, actually.

mathowie 37:04 Yeah, we forgot. On the thing is just so good. I guess the Challenge Challenge for last month, it's gonna be kind of dated, you know, I just get sick of Christmas music the day after it happened. Or you know,

Cortex 37:17 you know, that's the thing we need to we need to you really need to plan ahead like November trying to remember all the good random Christmas stuff that happened the previous year and trotted out, you know, we really need to, like, make sure everybody knows November 2009, about the December 2008 Challenge stuff so they can party mix us ahead of time,

mathowie 37:34 I was gonna link to the challenges page. But apparently, that's a major flaw in that. It cleared out all of last year's challenges. Whoa, I'm sure it's just like a day grab from the career. So there's one

Cortex 37:48 thing I do want to mention, actually, from music, actually, from music talk, which I still feel like it's totally under the radar. It's been going nicely, you know, people have been having threads, but it's still pretty low volume. Yeah. So I you know, anything to sort of throw some extra light at it. But there's this great thread that I think it was Saul Goodman posted it. I grabbed the link here about you know, people who are parents that are musicians how the heck do you do it and you know, turned into what for, for for music talk at this point is a good size Reddit got like 16 comments and people literally talking in detail. That's kind of a fun read. It's a nice sort of inside look at you know, the practicality. You know, people talk about how hard it is just to be in a band. Oh, yeah, you know, and have a life period. But mixing kids explicitly in the mix to just becomes that much more of a time suck, I think and it's impressive.

mathowie 38:37 That's funny. It's like every hobby, you know, that goes beyond hobby to obsession, but not quite to obsession. Basically, everyone has to come to this juncture, who's like whatever. 35 Like, how do you I I've been a part of so many discussions about how do you have children and ride a bike professionally or something? You know, it's really hard. Yeah. And people who are like whatever freelance web developers are even worried about like, When am I going to have time for my children? No more crazy all nighters but yeah, band practice, you know, these things are things that happens at night, you know, and you have to put kids down and

Jessamyn 39:14 yeah, that's rough. Put them to bed you mean

mathowie 39:18 no, I smother them with color. I think goes down like Benadryl and chloroform.

Jessamyn 39:25 Do Shut up. I live on Benadryl

mathowie 39:31 happened to I had my favorite word the reboot post go Oh, yeah, there it is. Best thing ever. I think this is Brad Sachs. Was it? Yeah. Single Use Yeah, I love this single use sight of Did you reboot yes or no? That's it.

Unknown Speaker 39:54 Now this is not frenetic.

mathowie 39:56 I was get there. I was getting bread. So that's your real name mixed up. other people? Yeah.

Jessamyn 40:03 Sorry. furtive it's another Canadian. Yeah,

mathowie 40:06 that explains it. Who lives in Banff? That's just like that weird ski town. Sweet. Dude,

Jessamyn 40:16 not much else to say about that post that the project

mathowie 40:21 to love it. So try it out. My favorite. I think the coolest job is definitely work with brown paw or if it's not him, someone he knows US News and World Report is a front end web developer is kind of cool. Be part of the giant media machine in Washington.

Jessamyn 40:42 I've been to the US News and World Report website and

mathowie 40:45 probably ever.

Jessamyn 40:47 Yeah, well, hey,

mathowie 40:49 my favorite oddball asked Metafilter moment is someone asking where in the world a photo of a waffle was taken. And

Jessamyn 40:59 I love that you and I were talking about the last podcast? Yeah, no, he did not know about it.

mathowie 41:04 Yeah, we were just chatting about it. Six minutes later, someone made out like a word on the menu and figured it

Jessamyn 41:11 out from kind of recognize the plates. Yeah, yeah, it was just

mathowie 41:15 amazing. Like, one of those weirdo like, holy shit. And then people went and tried out the waffles. Like, actually, you know, people at Reddit went, you know, I was in New York. So I went and tried out the waffle. They need to put the resolve tag, that's the most resolved thing I've ever seen.

Jessamyn 41:34 I also liked the puzzling kitchen gadgets post two, which was like, you know, me and my mother in law like to swap mysterious kitchen gadgets. And so it's basically just a list of odd kitchen stuff, which I'm sure will be the answer to a future AskMe Metafilter What is this? Please go to the kitchen gadget thread. And

mathowie 41:55 that's a running thing on like, you know, to like tool guide sites or shows or magazines like what is this tool and then, like old woodworkers can say, oh, that's for Yeah, that's cool. Id this tool citrus trumpet. I want to talk about this for one second, the bathroom post the talking in the bathroom post. Just because I was gonna defend it to my death. Because I was like, I have felt the exact same way about the person who posted it. And like, the I mean, to a tee like, oh, man, every time I'm in the airport bathroom, I cannot believe the sounds coming out of people. Like I'm just mostly vegetarian. Everything is free and easy for me. Everything is not a problem. And I can't Oh my God, when you're in public and you're like, are you guys possible?

Jessamyn 42:49 Like you don't have IBS or something? Like

mathowie 42:53 you're just like, did you guys just come out of like a heroin party and you've been eating glass and like, you know, just like crazy like

Jessamyn 43:00 your heroin parties are different from mine. You should

mathowie 43:03 eat fiber yelling maybe you should eat fiber. I you know, I've been felt like saying and then when this came up Mettaton create a big steak. Yeah, as a joke post, but I was totally like no mad, but I felt exactly that way. Like, dead seriously. Like,

Jessamyn 43:18 I think this comes back to the dudes. Restroom behavior is grosser than women's restroom behavior, because this just doesn't happen in my world. You know? Yeah. My worst problem is like women on the damn telephone. Yeah, I know. But like, but that's it. There's no grunting there's I don't understand. Yeah. Is it like a nature nurture thing? I mean,

mathowie 43:42 all I know is like, you know, you think of my lifetime I've taken 1000s of perfectly uneventful poops, and then you go in public, you're like,

Jessamyn 43:50 Come on, man. That's gonna now be the pullquote the next time I interviewed by Money Magazine. It's a fun event for poops. How Matt how we made metal filter

mathowie 44:02 summary. And then you go out in public, you're like, wow, I've been doing it wrong. I'm supposed to be grabbing the walls and straining and blasting apparently.

Cortex 44:12 Yeah, I always you know, I wonder if I'm gonna at some point you I'm gonna get older enough that I'll be standing at a urinal and leaning on the wall for support and making loud noises because I've I've always found that sort of mysterious but you know, people were just rock you know, that could be part of it. You know, when this first really struck me I was probably still like, you know, barely do it. young kid. You know, amazed that people made such a big deal about pee and and so maybe at the time I just hadn't taken to account how often people would be drunk in bathrooms, but I don't know. I kind of wonder if that's gonna be me. And in 30 years that's true.

mathowie 44:43 Yeah, anything I feel like making fun of everyone always awesome warns me that I'm good.

Jessamyn 44:48 I have never thought about this topic before this just kind of filter and I'm a little disturbed that both of you guys.

mathowie 44:56 This is what do I say? We

Cortex 44:58 are attentive. We do think of out there so we have internal lives it's just my problem is

Jessamyn 45:02 how do the ladies pee on the seat? That's all I need to know.

mathowie 45:06 Oh yeah,

Cortex 45:07 they're in a hurry they try and get up too fast I

mathowie 45:09 don't know if that possible

Unknown Speaker 45:10 you tell us that's

Jessamyn 45:12 yeah that's my question

mathowie 45:15 my other favorite asked me if I post was I was in a funeral home and the cheapest coffin they offered me was $11,000 What the fuck and then there's all this great there are people calling the cold chef signal but a lot of people that said like oh yeah there eventually did pop up but someone said dude every by law they're not allowed to do this shit to you ask Him for that should have eight models below 500 bucks you know just with boxes tell him that and then not going to keep on the sales floor. You know you've been you are being scammed etc is cool. It's very cool to see someone saving you know? Yeah. Yeah,

Jessamyn 45:55 you saved me $1,000 On my Yeah. God Oh, I missed this entirely. When did this come up? Oh, two days after Christmas. Yeah. All right.

Cortex 46:04 Like you were busy or something? What the hell?

Jessamyn 46:06 I have a family and this year I saw them

mathowie 46:09 I don't I don't know what that's about that's that would drive me to Metafilter

Jessamyn 46:13 Yeah, well no. d z Wang seasons a great username because that's probably the guys actual name.

Cortex 46:22 Yeah, that's just making fun of somebody because their name sounds like peanuts. That's probably not what we want to encourage Attention listeners. Don't be like us.

mathowie 46:32 Almost always other asked me if I posted all this useful, like what what good documentaries are instantly watchable on Netflix and this is stupid party problem. How do I become interesting to speak to? It's like, personal insecurities. And I did like the how do I learn about other people's lives through their blog. So then people try to come up with all the definitive, you know, this is the librarian you should talk to and check out this surgeon with a blog if you want to.

Cortex 47:03 Like that's, that's, that's, that's neat. I totally missed that one. But that's a way to rant. It's a nice sort of, you know, it's like every once in a while I find myself and I need some new blogs kind of position. Are you kidding? I was like having a it's it's it's a sickness. I don't know. I don't I don't tend to collect things over time very well. I kind of have to go like I need to go grab a handful of stuff do the same thing with music. I'll get like 10 new albums and then listen to them all again and again for a month you know I it's it's just ideal in bursts. I don't know who a flight attendee is having something like this to come back to and just grab a bunch of when I get into

mathowie 47:39 attended blog. This looks fun. What was the meta filter? Pilot guy? I still look at his blog once every six months. Remember that guy who did the movie? Yeah, the guy you bumped in when I ran into the iPhone store? Yeah, I will look at his blog once every six months. It's awesome. It's still like, Hey, this is what it was like to fly to Bermuda and here's what then I slept in Paris and pretty cool. Neat. That's about it for the week.

Jessamyn 48:05 What's the two minutes left?

mathowie 48:08 What's the music challenge for January? Josh?

Unknown Speaker 48:12 Do we have it up yet? Not on the front.

Jessamyn 48:14 Oh, shut up. Josh. Mr. Music

I put go read it Josh.

Unknown Speaker 48:23 Let's see the talent music challenge for January.

mathowie 48:27 I work did you fix it or something weird?

Unknown Speaker 48:31 Maybe PB was

Jessamyn 48:33 magic. Oh, did

mathowie 48:34 you tell him I didn't fix it before our very eyes. That's pretty cool.

Jessamyn 48:39 He is made of magic. Did everybody okay? So everybody to listen to but fuck Baby Jesus let in the last podcast. I think we said that. Yeah, I

Unknown Speaker 48:46 think I mentioned it.

mathowie 48:47 I didn't feel like Lincoln. Because you know, I just I don't know.

Cortex 48:52 Well, there's there's there's three challenges as as usual, but I remember this one actually, when it came up. The wildcard challenges record a song to be played simultaneously with another song on meta filter music. And this came up because someone figured out that a couple things that were on the page already actually did that naturally.

Jessamyn 49:09 You can open them in tabs. It's awesome. Yeah.

Cortex 49:15 Yeah, let me find that. Let me find that thread actually, because it was an Astra zombie song. And a jingle bell song from Gosh, who was it the ghost? Oh, maybe.

mathowie 49:28 Oh, can you slay them together and record it and then send it to me for the I can splice it in right here.

Cortex 49:35 Someone actually did that someone actually ended up posting it is the thing but here I'll send you the thread and there's a there's a link to it in there

Unknown Speaker 49:51 she sees this is the first file that we lose It's an since shell

Cortex 50:14 so we climbed up to the I'm all kind of unable to use a mouse today.

Jessamyn 50:19 What is it? What what technology is working?

Cortex 50:22 It's not the technology. I'm just feeling I'm having a bad day. It's headed it's headed cat. You know, man, it's five o'clock on Friday. I'm not working.

Jessamyn 50:30 You don't work in an office anymore? Let me tell you. Exactly. So

Cortex 50:33 it's kind of harder to feel righteous about it. But ya know, so it's yeah, it's a it's it's a jingle bell recording in minor key, which was one of the theme things, which is one of my favorite watches last month, one of Astro zombie songs. He's been doing a whole bunch of songs about when he was like, like, 20 or 21.

Jessamyn 50:54 And living in loving those loving. Yeah.

Cortex 50:57 So this is one of those and you just playing them together. And it just plain works. And I think there's a reference in the thread. Yeah, Doug. Oh, so went and mash it together here. So you can actually just listen to it manually. If you don't feel like doing the work to press play on two things at once. I don't. Yeah. And it's just really great. You know, people talking about like, wow, I thought that one part was from the one song and not the other song, because it just fits so well. So that's the idea. If you if you're feeling like trying to intentionally mash a couple things together like this, like you

Jessamyn 51:29 don't have enough to do in January.

mathowie 51:31 I used to do this all the time for fun. Ya know,

Unknown Speaker 51:34 it's a fun idea. You know,

Jessamyn 51:36 it's like the dark side of the rainbow kind of thing

mathowie 51:38 I used to just push play on three songs at once always on music the front page, it's easy to do, just to

Cortex 51:45 see what happens I'm a long and sad story about the Dark Side of the Moon thing in college and a CD drive, destroying a whole terms worth of a project I've been working on it's a long story so don't talk about it

Jessamyn 51:59 sounds like you pretty much know the whole thing

Cortex 52:05 that'll be the entire podcast next time will be me telling that story.

mathowie 52:10 All right, I think that's about wraps it up. Fan cast I will

Cortex 52:14 also I totally kicked ass at that diplomacy game and

Jessamyn 52:18 I love these updates about something that's all nothing about one year

mathowie 52:22 I saw the photo on Flickr right everybody?

Jessamyn 52:25 Yeah, nothing's more fun than watching photographs of people playing this diplomacy. Is it like it's a

Cortex 52:33 it's a board game you were playing it on the internet you know they have pictures of the board.

Jessamyn 52:38 They're gonna have to imagine the face that I'm making

mathowie 52:41 you take it over I can take it over. Sounds like right

Cortex 52:46 yeah, yeah, so I know now rule Europe sweet good for you. cough is bleedings ass

mathowie 52:53 don't let the power go to your head that's it um

Jessamyn 52:55 try not to that's your advice Yeah 1000s of little poops Joshua Mr B begins for me come down now see raising raising help me Merry Christmas really to Santa's been really been riding on Roco window

Unknown Speaker 54:09 Santa's Christmas counting if you're not gonna miss really you tired is coming Oh, hanging stockings singing carols Good night everybody it's time sometimes

Unknown Speaker 56:06 I see a jolly Silla with Santa Claus Santa Claus Will you come down my chimney

Unknown Speaker 56:24 Bad Boy nobody loves me go on history raising cane raising hell please don't give me cold strength give me Come on Santa come on Santa

Unknown Speaker 57:03 bar me.

Unknown Speaker 58:16 You one can create Christmas really made Christmas really mad

Unknown Speaker 58:26 to me waiting for the slave