Podcast 29 Transcript

A transcript for Episode 29: Happy Happy Joy Joy (2008-06-27).

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onlyconnect 0:00 and gentlemen, welcome to the metal filter podcast. See episode 29 of the metal filter podcast.

Happy Happy Joy Joy addition.

mathowie 0:19 Yes. Let's do the first one. Are you all set? I'm all set.

onlyconnect 0:24 Hi. I am only connect. And I met my sweetheart at a DC metal filter meetup in 2003. At a bar called Gusa. He was wearing blue shirts and sitting across the table from me looking very cute and interested in weird stories about whether or not you could get into business without pants. And whether or not Claire Danes did drugs when she was in college. It's a little embarrassing that if you carefully follow my posting history, which I strongly discouraged, you can chart the course of our bromance is solicitude over my dead cat. Our first dates, the rosy plushies of attractions. And, of course, the inevitable progression of ask me questions that included Valentine's Day angst weekend getaway plans, how to know if he is or isn't into you. And then the unexpected questions about planning a wedding reader I married him and I'm grateful for it every day. And that our wedding reception, which was attended by more than a few Medfield. Aryans, every tables. Disposable Polaroid camera with a little tag on it dark red. Do you have cameras? Love you Norton DC embedded filter and love you too. I'm so grateful.

mathowie 1:40 Wasn't it? Norton DC the we got cameras? We have cameras guy. I think he's the one that coined that term, wasn't it? I think so. Yeah, that's extra funny metaphor.

Yeah, I met those guys at a DC meetup a couple years ago. So they're both super nice. I like it when I think they're like debating things over like on AskMe Metafilter. They had one about like travel, what you can bring on the plane to eat but they eat different things. And I think one of them was trying to think that maybe the other one what they wanted to bring wasn't quite. I don't know. I think sometimes they disagree about things and then like they're like, fuck it. We'll ask Metafilter and then talking to each other. Well, they don't fight. I mean, they're there. They're super nice people. So there's no fighting going on.

Which is come up on the plane food.

Jessamyn 2:27 I think so. Yeah, I think I suggested it and someone else was like, No, that's disgusting. Yeah, it's like

Meatbomb 2:31 the most polarizing I think food in the world and enclosed space. I had someone like, threatened to quit their job because another person would eat tuna sandwiches at their cube. really drove them batty. batshit insane. They couldn't stand

didn't they just ask them nicely to stop? Oh,

mathowie 2:50 they're just like, fuck it.

Meatbomb 2:53 Like it I quit. People won't stop

mathowie 2:55 the fucking tuna. No tuna allowed their, their their path? I guess. So. We do recaps? Or I guess I haven't looked at jobs or projects. I forgot to do that. Or music even.

Ready? Already. This is one of those like, let the kids do the oral report. So you don't have to prepare for class. Right, right. Yeah.

Class draw you expecting to pop something in the VCR.

Jessamyn 3:23 It's all time for you to do your class presentations.

Meatbomb 3:26 Where is the popular list? So anything from June counts for this podcast? Because we didn't do recap last time. Oh, that's right. We didn't Oh teach the controversy was the most popular. Oh, Kharkov. The Garfield Markov thing by cortex. Oh, the big picture. That was the greatest fucking thing in the world.

Better than better than gartcosh

Oh, yeah. Hell, hell, you

aren't allowed to have favorites. Oh, yeah.

mathowie 3:56 One. Favorites. The big picture is my favorite new blog of the year. Lots of people said that I can't believe it's a Alan Taylor Co Co G act on Metafilter.

Meatbomb 4:11 Oh, right. Right, right. No, sorry. You're right. This was totally I forget what it's called.

mathowie 4:17 I wonder if I should talk about the backstory of it because I know the backstory of it on the secret website.

He would of course you should tell the backstory. Oh, yeah. So

the backstory is there's a secret website that I won't mention by name that lots of people know about her part of and he would post gigantic photos that he got.

Meatbomb 4:36 Oh wait, it's just a website that shall not be named. Yes. Hey,

mathowie 4:41 constantly post these amazing like the AP wire I guess only people that business have access to like the megapixel versions of these little images and they can crop it into whatever story comes to life holy like I had heard that stupid story about the plane flies over. Villa just never seen planes before. is like a really remote jungle sort of ice. Yeah, I remember I remember seeing and there's like little 300 by 200 images of the guys with arrows pointed at a helicopter or whatever it is or a plane. And you're like, oh, wow, that's pretty amazing in this day and age that there's still pockets of people that isolated. But when you see it 1000 pixels, you're like, holy shit, though. You can see their faces. They're terrified. They're pissed off. They're confused.

Jessamyn 5:25 And there's like, and it's really happening. And they're real people. And they look like people. Yeah. And

Meatbomb 5:29 all the stories just come to life. And everyone's shocked. Everyone's saying, like, it's taken, you know, we didn't been doing news online for 15 years, and nobody's ever put up 1000 pixel photo before. Like, why is this is as amazing as it is. And it's like Elon is a great you know, he's got a photographer's eye even though he doesn't think he's a good photographer.

You kidding. Like, I follow his Twitter, sorry, Flickr stuff. And it's amazing. He does.

mathowie 5:57 He's always been doing lots of awesome astronomy stuff. He's always had the astronomy projects on his personal site. This is like a right perfect meld of he's the right guy in the right place at the right time. With the right access to you know, Boston Globe resources. And it's great that is, you know, superiors let them run wild with this. I can't believe they got the you know, licensed clearance to do this. It's so cool. But oh my god, it's the greatest freakin site. Like I have put the RSS in my feed. And I just love every new post that shows up. Today's is the

Meatbomb 6:29 Yeah, it's a really sweet like, and it's a sweet URL. I mean, all the whole implementation just frickin works. That's what I really like about it. You know? Like, it's a nice looking blog. It's, you know, yeah, everything, everything's really kind of there.

mathowie 6:44 And the cool thing is, it's not, it's not quite breaking news, like a newspaper. But it's like what I love about blogs, which is four days later.

Here's a resource mental photo from

Yeah, here's a resource. Remember that thing you heard about? Now, I'm gonna blow your mind by showing you like, like tons of more backstory, here's like 25 photos about that one story you heard a blip about for five seconds three days ago. And the photos are just, they're so incredible. They totally, they totally, I don't know what it is about, you know, 1000 pixel photos that bring news to life in a way that like nobody's ever done online, I think he's really scratched the surface of something amazing here.

Well, and I think news organizations spend so much time like jamming so much stuff on their front page. And right now, you know, you read your average news story. And the biggest image on the page is simple, leaky bullshit ad for whatever. And it just totally gives you a different idea of what's important than something like this, where it's like, the photo really carries the whole, the whole thing.

The sad part is the photo journalists are like, total fucking pros. And they're 1000 pixel images look exquisite. And like as a guy who used to publish, you know, 400 pixel wide images and 500 Then I went to 1000, like, a couple years ago. It's hard, like, once you go over 1000 It's like, your shit has to be tight. Like, any focus problem, any light problem is just amplified. So the stringers there, you know, $10,000 cameras getting paid $100 an hour to make beautiful images. You know, they show up on Yahoo News is this little 400 Pixel THING it's just a waste it's just so great to email this photo to someone Yeah, it's so great see on the big picture as it was meant to be seen like these guys are fucking artists, you know? Right right. They know their craft and Gods my favorite blog in the world now.

Jessamyn 8:39 Yay.

Meatbomb 8:41 Works people. I don't think I've seen a good job lately. They think worth mentioning. What what the library related product? Oh, tech support. Oh, I was cracking up. They needed a blogger for Columbia Business School. I just thought that was like, Wow. Was the world come to that? Business School a top flight? Business School needs? person in charge it PR I guess communications and but they have to be a good blogger.

mathowie 9:18 Did they do the Columbia Journalism Review? Well, that's not the business school.

Yeah, this is just you know, got people getting MBAs from Columbia, which is probably pretty prestigious. I don't know.

My grandmother went to Colombia. Sweet. That's the one

that uptown right like 125th Street or something.

Oh, is it West? 56.

I remember it was on the way to way uptown. I went there.

Yeah. That's pretty cool, though. I mean, it's basically like a web editor job.

Yeah, yeah. I just thought it's hilarious to see blogger and your job title these days at something like a university which I wouldn't think would be hip and move with the times but

Meatbomb 9:59 are they Call it something stupid even though what you would be doing writing, right?

Yeah, like you'd have some job title from 200 years ago.

Hey, one of the things about this library job though, if you read the extended description is you can read me fi all day long, so long as our customers are happy and your work is done. No way. Holy what it says? Yes. Wow.

Trying to hire someone. Wow.

And that person is the hiring manager. That's amazing. So it's not even a you know, recruiter or whatever

mathowie 10:35 I eat. What's your name? Hey, maybe

Meatbomb 10:38 I could double dip and take this job. The Read metal filter and I do it when I lifeguard sometimes.

Now we'll do the next happy call.

Jessamyn 10:47 Okay.

Meatbomb 10:49 Hi, this is me bomb. I'm calling you from beautiful Sofia, Bulgaria. And I think my happiest thing that happened on that filter was when last summer I took a trip across the states. And I didn't really know what I wanted to see. So I sort of created this rolling meetup. And the best memories of that trip. Were meeting all the different metal filter people. We met Chris and his crew in St. Louis. And we met Donna in the middle of Kansas somewhere. Mr. Claxton and all of the other cool people in Los Angeles called chef down in, in New Orleans and Jessamyn up in Vermont. So the whole Metafilter meetup kind of gave meaning and purpose to the to the trip I took across the states with my woman. So yeah, that's it. Cool. Thank you, sir.

This is my trip with my women.

Jessamyn 11:44 Know his woman Woman. Okay.

Meatbomb 11:46 Oh,

I think they're married now, but I think they weren't married at the time. Sofia, Bulgaria. Actually, they don't talk that way in Bulgaria.

I was just making it up. Sofia sounds. Where's his room trying to find his meta talk post? Amsterdam. Is he American or? Canadian? Right. He's

mathowie 12:07 Canadian. That's why he has such a beautiful accent. That's so neat. Bomb traveling roadshow. I found it. 14682

Meatbomb 12:15 He was in South Korea. He was in New York is an Amsterdam. Amsterdam. Yeah, he

works for you know, teaching English trainers thing or he did? Oh, yeah. So he was all over the place. He was encouraged to stand for a while. And then he traveled across the US with his fiancee.

mathowie 12:34 He just does the teaching English stuff. The didn't know he did that trainer.

Jessamyn 12:39 It's like a school for international training. And so he I think runs the programs in other countries, I think.

mathowie 12:46 Oh, so he's sort of managing. I think so. Yeah, we should.

Jessamyn 12:52 We should he's a train the trainer type of person. Yeah. And yeah, they came to visit here. And it was totally fun. And they came to see Klein klaxon. Got a bunch of

mathowie 13:01 you got to see. You got to see culture, too. We got to meet like all the best of me fights possible.

Yeah, in fact, culture emailed me and was like, Hey, I'm totally looking forward to meeting meet bomb but like my wife is kind of like what you're having a bunch of strangers like, come stay with us. Can you like it's me bomb. Okay. Because he didn't know he just Yeah, on the site. And I'm like, oh, yeah, like he's totally the Most Gracious friendly. Guest and nice person and genuine, you know, wonderful person. Yes. And I think he wants to stay with them. I don't even remember there's definitely like pictures of meat bomb holding cold chips children on Flickr, which I thought were I thought were super

fun. Dead bodies are perfectly cool to have in the house but strangers from the internet.

Jessamyn 13:46 I don't think they live at the funeral home anymore.

mathowie 13:48 Okay, the I think on the last podcast, someone asked for regrettable decisions. I think I forgot. I don't know if I mentioned me Bob. I think I wanted to that like everyone. Wait. So the last one someone called in with like, if you guys ever screwed up or something or felt bad about decisions you made? I think someone asked a question along those lines. I can't remember we talked about but I always wanted to be able to meet Bob because he was really enthusiastic at the start. And I think he just sort of accidentally stepped on toes and like I banned him because he posted that treaty of Versailles or whatever.

Jessamyn 14:22 The Treaty of Westphalia somebody that story and they could not stop laughing they're like, that's your job. You know, people people post the Treaty of Westphalia and you need to delete it. And I'm like, yeah. When you were like that guy,

mathowie 14:36 it was like Hackley it was at the wrong time because other people were like, goofing around like what can we fuck with metal filter today? And they are posting all this shit. And then he posted like 10,000 billion words of shit. And I was like that tackling that shouting everyone out now it was like, a week off or something that he was like, What did I do? And I was like, I don't care. I don't know who the fuck we are. Shut the fuck up. You're like I cannot delete you forever. I was so pissed off, but it was just he just wandered in the wrong thread and goofed around. He had no idea I guess about the history. But yeah, now today, I can't believe I ever banned him like, boy did I fly off the handle.

Jessamyn 15:15 That's an interesting that's an interesting admission from you know, the boy did I ever fly off the hill? Yeah. Admitting weakness. Yeah. Like

mathowie 15:23 if you had the worst day possible your child runs up to you and you flip out on him for no reason. Because of everything else that happened that has nothing to do. Oh, I

Jessamyn 15:31 know. I know.

mathowie 15:32 We all have those days. Yeah, it's so unfair. Yeah, everyone's bit the head off of their significant other after a shitty J, you know, had nothing to do with them. So sorry, Bob. We need to interview him for like God, man, he must have some sane travel stories.

Jessamyn 15:49 He has many wonderful travel stories.

mathowie 15:52 So what are your favorite metal filter posts from last month?

Jessamyn 15:56 Well, my favorite one, let me see if I just brought it up one of my favorite general stories, which is Hold on a sec, I have to I'm sort of like, using two laptops at the at the moment. It's actually on the front page right now. Let me go find it. Hold place. No way. Doo doo doo Shut up. Doo doo doo doo. Yeah, well, it's this cool thing that happened in the world of books, which is why I'm so into it. But there's this whole problem with copyright, as I'm sure you know, dealing with the issue of orphan works. Oh, yeah, anything published between 23 and 63. And it's this total pain in the ass because you have to figure out if there's a form that's been filed to extend the copyright. But if the form exists, then the things under copyright, but if the form doesn't exist, then it's public domain. But figuring out if the form exists, sucks and is impossible. Oh, yeah. Let's, Brewster have been trying to throw money and people at this for years. Well, it looks like like 90 Personal plus Project Gutenberg. Plus, Lessig in Brewster, plus the distributed proofer copywriter people have actually created this searchable 58 megabyte 56 megabyte XML file. And it's a set of copyright renewal records in XML. So

mathowie 17:31 nothing on the list is freely available or things on the list. Everything's in the list.

Jessamyn 17:36 I think you can search. Let me see from his from Stephens comment.

mathowie 17:41 That's awesome. This is such a long term project of Brewster and

Jessamyn 17:45 well, this stuff was these they were these fucking books. They were books, hardcover books, pre 1978. And it was just so crappy. And so Carnegie Mellon scanned it. And then Gutenberg and the proofreaders, I guess, turned it into OCR and stuff. And then Google's Brainiac people. Google's Brainiac people kind of massage the data so that it's in XML. And, and the document itself is in the public domain. Yeah. So yeah, so it's funny, like the the post itself, just links to the, you know, the Book Search blog, but you know, I was reading about it all more since for I started takari.

mathowie 18:32 What's the convention Geneva, Geneva, the Berne Convention from 1976 7876, that everything automatically became copyrighted, but from 23 to 76? I guess they're saying 63 You had to renew every extra you have the option to renew. Yeah. And if you didn't do it, it fell out of copyright. And I think that's what a couple those Night of the Living Dead movies from the 60s like that people forgot to renew. And so they're freely available. Yeah, that's all like, less like wants the world to go back to because 90% You can keep your damn Disney's you know, you can keep renewing every year and the people that wrote a textbook 25 years ago, or a movie that's crumbling, you know, the Sally Lloyd Wright currently, like nobody cares about. Right, go ahead and digitize it, you know, do whatever you want. Save

Jessamyn 19:27 it. Yeah. So let me see what else did you love on metal filter? Because I realized, you know, we haven't done a podcast in a month and my favorite thing was from today, but

mathowie 19:35 Oh, the other copyright thing I loved was the stupid copyright thing about Happy Birthday. Just sort of the whole story of happy birthday and the horribleness of the Happy Birthday story. Which is that guy

Jessamyn 19:49 like doesn't like that come up on metal filter like once a once a year? Yeah, I

mathowie 19:53 think it comes up in all media because this head scratcher of a problem that it came from a You know, what you'd call a folk song traditional. There's no copyrights from eons ago, The Good morning to you song and then the guy who wrote the good morning to Song published it, you know, it's out of copyright. But then he made new words of Happy Birthday. And it was 1935 when he published that, so it's technically the copyright. So Supposedly, the song generates, what, $2 million a year in royalties still, to this day to the family members. That's just crazy, because it's just such a ubiquitous song.

Jessamyn 20:31 That's sort of all we have in terms of royalty in America. Yeah. It's like people that I mean, whatever. It's not supposed to be a bad pun, but like people that just make money off of like their, you know, elder ancestors talents. Yeah,

mathowie 20:45 it's weird. Yeah. And it's like Disney. And, you know, Mickey Mouse and Happy Birthday are basically the standout examples of kind of ridiculous copyright going too far. I think Happy Birthday is like someone said, if you're not allowed to put some song in your short movie, or film or story, because of copyright concerns, we all lose something from your, your story isn't as good as it could have been. And it's kind of dumb and, like, limited by especially if

Jessamyn 21:15 you're like, at a birthday party, and somebody's like singing a song. I mean, especially when it makes it look wonky. You know, like, I don't know how I feel about product placement. But you know, that there's also the, you know, why is everybody drinking some cola that you can't see the name of on television? Versus Why is everybody holding the Coca Cola brand name out, but it's like the way people in the movies who use email, don't use any email program you've ever heard? or seen before? Because those are all like copyrighted and I assume Microsoft's like, fuck you. You can't be outlook, if it's whatever, whatever, whatever. But that's all copyright ish. Yeah, trademark ish to

mathowie 21:55 Mara West is a guy who posts posted a awesome comment in it sort of asking for balance from this that like, we sort of had these ridiculous examples. And that leads to like, complete disrespect and lack of regard for copyright whatsoever. And so you get these polarized discussions of Disney versus Cory Doctorow that just don't really go anywhere.

Jessamyn 22:16 Yeah, there's one of those going on right now in Metafilter. Yeah, and

mathowie 22:20 that people, you know, there should be some middle ground where, you know, and I was just pissed off because at the end, the great granddaughter or the granddaughter of the guy who wrote Happy Birthday, runs a music class system for kids, that like all these Nash, like every city, you can take a music class with your child, and they all sort of like pay this one company who makes up all the teaching materials, and it's the Happy Birthday woman. So weird music licensing, and Lessig stuff like filtered all the way down to my daughter.

Jessamyn 22:56 Okay, so speaking of singing down to your daughter, that reminds me of the other there was really only like, because I've been whatever favoriting favoriting for everything but there was like really only one other posts that I just totally loved. And unfortunately, well not unfortunately but it all cycles back to me bomb again. But it's Adele far post that's Sesame Street clips featuring celebrities singing the alphabet song. Oh, yeah. And what it led to I don't know if it's in this thread or not. Was meat bomb actually making one music

mathowie 23:32 Wow.

Jessamyn 23:33 Let me let me look it up. Happened been on my toolbar. But at any rate, I totally enjoyed me bomb singing row so this person shift s and I believe if you read the lyrics, they're sort of like pseudo German and possibly moderately mildly offensive, but it's just really funny and he's got a great voice so it was awesome.

mathowie 23:59 We got I just everything else I loved is all weirdo and goofball, so I should say oh, like the squirrel eats a cracker was fucking awesome.

Jessamyn 24:16 I think she's squirrely to crack.

mathowie 24:17 It's exactly what I just said. It's just two minutes of a squirrel cracker. Like it's just so awesome. How ridiculous it is. The other one was

Jessamyn 24:28 the oh I love I have to I have to go look at this right now. Actually, yeah, you

mathowie 24:31 can just play it in the background and you'll just see a squirrel cracker. There's no ending to it. It's just squirrel in the cracker. This Burger King Europe ads for you can have your burger your way. Just totally batshit insane.

Jessamyn 24:51 What's I don't even get it. What's that? I haven't read that one yet. I saw that thread

mathowie 24:59 so These are like tray liners that like would be under your burger. They're just like, hilarious subversive. Totally mind bending. Can't believe

Jessamyn 25:12 it's an onion without in the pants. Yes, that's the red light. With a beard with no pants and a pickle that's putting a glove on. That doesn't look like it's going to be any fun at all. All right, yeah,

mathowie 25:25 that's uh oh, squirrel

Jessamyn 25:27 eating a cracker. I need to turn this down.

mathowie 25:32 This girl to see to crack forever and ever and ever.

Jessamyn 25:37 All right. I do love Huey Lewis in the news. Not entirely

That's it right? Yeah,

mathowie 25:59 that's a squirrel just eats the crackers. Pizza crackers. No, indeed.

Jessamyn 26:03 But yeah, I had a bunch of like, favorite comments, I think a meta filter but favorite posts, not as much. I mean, I read a bunch of your favorite meta filter. I enjoyed it. Let me see. So hey, this was the thing I didn't want to sidebar it because I was too afraid it would like turn into like a thing. But it's the best comment on meta filter, probably in 2008. I think it got 203 favorites. It's totally hilarious. And if I didn't think it would embarrass you, I would make you and I do a dramatic reading of it. Because it's so funny. But it's basically

mathowie 26:39 I saw this, you know, the popular thread feed. And I was like,

Jessamyn 26:45 you don't think it's that funny?

mathowie 26:47 When I was 15 to 19 That's how I thought about things. Now I don't think of women that way at all.

Jessamyn 26:57 Maybe that's because you're a dad. Yeah.

mathowie 26:59 Marriage mellows you being married. I was a little too over the top.

Jessamyn 27:09 It just made me laugh my ass off. And of course. You know, I commented later, like, Hey, we're all off doing interesting, interesting things. Even the dudes and cortex came back with like, the totally hilarious. No, I'm just working on my on my two in one Counter Strike headshot. Which was also which was also very funny. I don't know. It just made me totally laugh. And when I said it to people, they totally laughed, and it got 203 favorites. And the article was so stupid, right? And the thread was like, ah, men and women agreed the article was totally stupid. But yeah, pasta bagel made me laugh.

mathowie 27:48 I thought, oh, we should mention the I love it to death. Have you followed the popular popular posts and popular comment feeds at all?

Jessamyn 27:58 I don't usually but we should mention that they exist. Yeah.

mathowie 28:01 So if you go to the popular aid, he there's now threads for each one. And it's actually just a delightful way to follow metal filter. If you don't have the time to go through the whole thing, which is just the best of the best. It's all

Jessamyn 28:18 20 minute meta filter. Yeah, totally like,

mathowie 28:20 three, there's

Jessamyn 28:21 pasta bagels, comment right up top most popular. It's only

mathowie 28:24 like maybe three things a day or pop into this list. It's only when they enter this list. Do they show up in the feed? And most feed readers are smart enough to ignore all the duplicates. So babies two a day, you'll get two amazing posts a day, three or four amazing comments tops. And they're usually easy to figure out what's going on. There's a link to where they said you can figure it out. It's really good.

Jessamyn 28:49 That's awesome. I also want to Well what

mathowie 28:53 I just found it's like the it really is the filtered filter. You know best of the best for yet. Pretty, pretty good.

Jessamyn 29:03 That people that people wanted that people wanted all this time. Yeah,

mathowie 29:07 I think you have to get 40 favorites before you show up on this list. So there's not there's not a lot of churn on it. It's only about two a day three today. It's great.

Jessamyn 29:19 Cool, I don't know if we sidebar that we probably should. But uh, yeah, that's awesome. Oh, and I don't even understand what this post is about. But it seemed like the people who understood what it was about we're in love with it. So I felt like we should mention it. Yeah, it's the indie platformer. I don't even know what that has something to do with game.

mathowie 29:40 Yes, it's an indie game. Post about everyone making indie games. They're almost all PC based. earlier than that. But what is platformer means the 2d side scroller. So Super Mario Brothers pitfall if you want to go way back, okay, okay, that's a platformer that EA T Yeah, it's just sort of like, Hey, here's the set of common, you know, for that defender. Yeah, well, yeah, that like, here's this common vocabulary that you know, you're gonna run to the right and you're gonna jump over stuff. There's gonna be a boss at the end that you have to, you know, Cripple to get to the next level, which looks exactly the same set, there's more stuff. Like, given that go nuts. Yeah, so that's sort of what a platformer is. If, I mean, I'm not even a super gamer. But that's what I come to understand. Almost all over

Jessamyn 30:29 windows. And this was a first post which is why I'm specifically very first, Arca gon has been a member since 2006. And this is his her I think Alexei is a dude.

mathowie 30:40 This is his first Yeah, this is a first post Wikipedia style. Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About windows or indie games, indie platformer games, and I've already seen linked on a whole bunch of like gamer and tech blogs around which is cool. So it's actually getting a lot of eyeballs outside of metal filter.

Jessamyn 31:01 Yes, I thought it was a wonderful comprehensive post that I didn't understand. I could

mathowie 31:04 Yeah, I could load any of them because they're almost all Windows only. So it's like, well, I'll take your word

Jessamyn 31:10 well, and yet it didn't turn into a you know pissy Mac derail? Which was nice. Oh, and speaking of other shitstorm subverted the George Carlin obit thread actually turned out pretty well. Yeah, I think we're seeing more people make more of an effort to have obit threads that don't suck both inside the thread and the people that create the threads so

mathowie 31:29 but obit thread about someone that people like does really well, always people genuinely love George Carlin so I think everyone's way more respectful than they would be if it was Nicole Smith, and Nicole Smith or something where half of their existence as a joke so you can make jokes.

Jessamyn 31:53 And, you know, everybody said there there's seven, seven words you can't say or whatever. And somebody else pointed out like, you know, the seven words you can't say in this thread are like good riddance. I'm so glad he's dead or something like that. Totally against the rules.

mathowie 32:09 Davros had a great pointed out other things he does beyond seven words. Oh, Carlin's like the first guy who ever taught me that comedy does it age? Well. I was at my library like 1015 years ago. And I stumbled on to the like, Audio Video section. And I was like, wah like this is we're talking like 9095 or 9090 or something else. Like I didn't know, you know, libraries had something other than books. You know, I was naive. And I was like, CDs galore. There's all these audio books. And I was like, wow, they have comedy CDs like classics. These are great. I've heard nothing but you know, you hear Jerry Seinfeld talk and they all talk about these, you know, Cosby records from 1968 and I found like this four CD set of all George Carlin's 1960 stuff. I was like, oh my god, like this is gold. I take it home. I put it on. It's unlistenable. It's so dumb. It is literally just because it's goofy or because it's like stoner humor or woe is before it's like fart jokes. And he he'll say a bad word. And everyone goes apeshit the audience like because it's just so yeah, but if he says shit, everyone goes nuts. If he says the F word like, oh my god, he can't talk for two minutes through all the noise and applause and the jokes are like the epitome of jokes, I guess is before he started turn countercultural because a lot of jokes are like making fun of TV and radio guys because he always did the radio guy. And everyone goes crazy. They're like, that's not that funny anymore.

Jessamyn 33:46 I never listen to those guys.

mathowie 33:48 And I've heard someone say like Lenny Bruce's stuff is unlistenable today. Just the other day I heard it on the sound of young America podcast I had this guy talking about how comedy became countercultural from like late 60s In the 70s it stopped being about popular culture started being about questioning politics and government. George Carlin was a central figure in that but like Lenny Bruce's stuff isn't it was cutting edge at the time and you listen to it now. It's like not funny at all and really dumb and bad and like kind of beginner comedy. But he was sort of the forerunner of all that. But yeah, George Carlin does not date very well. Even Cosby. I've heard some early 60s comedy hours from cause

Jessamyn 34:29 I was listening to I've been listening to Cosby lately, and yeah, some of the stuff hilarious some of it if

mathowie 34:35 you're on iTunes and look for really old Cosby records. They're sitting there and listen to a sample and you're like, This isn't like some I mean, I remember is like early 80s stuff has been really funny. There's that one comedy, two hour comedy thing. It was on HBO 70 million times a day. I probably know it by heart. It's it's really funny, but the stuff from 20 years before that. It's It's awful. It's just not that funny. And everything's sad. Everything's like and then, you know, because he's all about beating the child and getting the child beaten and all this stuff and spanking the parents yelling at people. Yeah. And all this threat of violence is the comedy hook and like now as a parent, like, Oh my God. I hope that George Carlin nice, I mean, he's great. He's funny, I've always liked him. But God, listen to a George Carlin album from 1965, or something absolutely terrible. Just like just like my writing from 20 years ago, it's probably horrible. But let's go to another call

Navelgazer 35:44 on that Jess cortex. This is navigator, I wanted to briefly state, the three happiest metadata related memories that I have, because I can't put one of them on top of any of the others. First is a couple years back when I was in a band with a couple of friends and living it up in Brooklyn, and I went on Metafilter, and saw a sock puppet name on asked me wondering how one meets people in New York. And after a lot of different suggestions, I decided to be brave enough to just say, check my email and my profile. And, you know, ring me up and come and hang out with my group. And maybe, you know, maybe you'll get along with maybe won't but couldn't hurt. And shortly thereafter, out on the South Street Seaport pier, when my group was hanging out out there, guy by the name of Afro Blanca, came out and met up with us. And you know, we didn't know him at all, but turned out that he fit in with our group, fantastically, and the band finally found the drummer that we needed. And now due to that, I've, you know, I've met one of the closest friends I've ever had. So that one I think, qualifies as happy. Definitely. The second one, which is also related to that, over the last couple of months, when, after Blanca and I, sort of at random on a Gmail thread, with that same group of friends decided to start up a silly website, parodying stuff, white people like.com. And we decided to do stuff, nobody likes.com. And two of us put that together, along with a big group of our friends, and then put it up onto me by projects. And the pink superhero was nice enough to move it over from ping from projects over to the blue. And the traffic from the blue helped with the traffic we were already getting. But it was mostly from the blue that we ended up getting enough traffic, and then enough sightings from the people who, you know, site, that sort of thing to end up getting an NPR Interview less than a week after having started the site to begin with. So that was something absolutely amazing. That would not have happened without metaphysics.

mathowie 38:13 Oh, wow. You got NPR in one week? That's awesome.

Jessamyn 38:16 Well, you know, yeah, because the news is where the reporters are, right. And the reporters are in Brooklyn and reading the Stuff White People like, yeah, and

mathowie 38:25 stuff nobody likes is a lot more inclusive, that Stuff White People like,

Jessamyn 38:31 yeah, it makes a little bit more sense. I think I enjoy that stuff. Nobody likes. I especially enjoyed because we have a user name. Nobody lives in New York. So I like to think it's just him and a bunch of stuff that he hates.

mathowie 38:47 What are your favorite ask me, oh, we have a new AskMe edit filter, feature feature resolved, tagging resolved feed if you like closure, this is your one stop shopping spot for closure. I like closure. Anytime someone asks a question, and people go use try x, y or B. And then six months later, they come back and say, you know, I tried x, y and b and y was the best for the following reason. And the issue was resolved. Thank you, everyone. And they'll add the resolved tag to the post. And we automatically now have a sidebar of all the recently resolved things and RSS feed of it. If you follow the links you'll get you'll finally hear that, you know the backstory on did that ever work out that person the asset thing a few months ago?

Jessamyn 39:37 Yeah, in fact, we have a list like admin facing list where we can see the tags that people are adding to posts and it was really gratifying after we talked about that in meta talk to just watch people going back and adding results resolved, resolved. resolved.

mathowie 39:51 I saw some people really used it. So would you do the Tanel posted there so I went through mine and everyone that really had a complete resolution Should or I could write, I tried everything, you know, this is what my feelings were or, you know, I went to that city that you said, I went to that bar, it was like this, you know, when I really felt like there was completion on the issue I'd add resolved and when I could do a final comment of I tried, you know, summation of everything. So it was cool.

Jessamyn 40:21 Yeah, no, I think that's I think that's totally awesome. I had a couple of like clear, clear, wonderful threads and asked Metafilter that I really liked one of them, which I looked at like the above the above the jump and was like he was the helped me find real world magic items. And I was like, what, you know, is this about psychics or, but it was actually somebody who's making a role playing campaign and wants to have a bunch of kinds of items with like, kind of bizarre histories that show up and you know, they could basically use them for certain stuff. And so basically, it's the thread of people with all of their kind of 14 times kind of strange and unusual. Things like the Winchester Mystery House and the golden spike and thunder eggs, and those like kids that eat lots and lots of hair until their stomachs filled with hair. The Blarney Stone, but it's just it's just neat, because everybody has something they can kind of wear a lot of people did. I saw a lot of people in that thread that I don't see, you know,

mathowie 41:31 that this shot Lincoln is on display. I

Jessamyn 41:35 saw it. I saw it. That's my picture,

mathowie 41:40 click I know I saw there's you Walter Reed, where's that like Virginia or somewhere? It's

Jessamyn 41:44 in DC. It's in DC. I saw the bullet that killed Abraham Lincoln. But I liked that one. And then the other one that I really liked. And I have a couple like sort of also RANS, but was Taz was like, I mean, Greece is fucking hot. I need books to read about really cold places. And it's just this great list of like, cold

mathowie 42:10 stories of horrible winters.

Jessamyn 42:13 Yes. And it's just great. It's a great like, should I read this thread? Awesome. Yeah, it was what did you

mathowie 42:22 I've got a whole bunch of this handy junk. Trying to find something that like sort of moved to be

Jessamyn 42:32 your happiest metal filter moment?

mathowie 42:33 Yeah, everything was like, hmm, I didn't know that. I marked a lot of things like that.

We talked about the Native Americans that didn't know how to deal a day sites work like woot.com

Jessamyn 42:52 Hey, that was my friend Stan's question. Yeah.

mathowie 42:56 Guys, I've met a filter. And he's on that site that should never be named. Seems like one of the creators that he didn't pop in, but uh, I thought that was cool that they apparently buy stuff at way below cost. I mean, you're basically

Jessamyn 43:12 it's basically like liquidators like we're gonna sell this to you for pennies on the dollar instead of throwing it away. And then

mathowie 43:18 they become so popular that people come to them at that point. They don't really have to search too hard to look for. Right, but yeah, the person Yeah, how do I do I need to have friends in the business. It's like no, you're just basically become a liquidator. And so we talked about how they were going to offer they were going to sell to boot but it was actually kind of, you know, they weren't gonna make anything at all. I was gonna make some money on it

Jessamyn 43:43 a little bit, but basically the like, just get rid of Yeah, it's

mathowie 43:46 like, yeah, we'll buy everything for pennies on the dollar for from you and then sell it for you know, five bucks or something instead of 100. Which seems like an awesome deal to people. So they all buy it up. Right? But you don't get it. You just get that one flat rate cut at the beginning. Oh, God. Oh, so here was the story that was like heartbreaking. This is something that moved me the I have a 60 year old female friend who signals spends a lot of time on dating sites. Oh, yeah, she's been scammed. And how do I explain to her she's been scammed. Someone doesn't really love her. It's just setting her up to take money from her. She sent him like 110 bucks already through a weird shady wire service. And then went to like Loggos are some things as clearly I didn't know this was so ubiquitous, but people chimed in with like, this is totally what like the Nigerian spam thing has moved from Craigslist to like match.com Now where people just count the stories about Oh, I bet American living abroad I happen to be in Nigeria right now. If you could wire me the money for my plane if somebody somebody broke down. You know, it's it's hard to explain it. to it, but where is it? This someone hurts you the corner the cop works for a dating site.

Jessamyn 45:07 Right? That was a really good comment from what broke down. Like just ask him for a phone number if he's in love with you.

mathowie 45:13 Yeah, where's some of the worst for an NGO says, Man, we get people as claim, you know, Nigerian spammers that live that claim they work for us and stuff. Got it? Where was the shit? I thought someone broke it down to like, here's how the scam was going to play out is really late. It's heart wrenching. It's like it's gonna fall You know, there's gonna be these following 12 steps are gonna happen these you have this story, and I've heard it 1000 times.

Jessamyn 45:39 Right? They're supposed to meet but then he has a family emergency.

mathowie 45:43 There'll be some problems. He's gonna ask for more money at this point. God, I guess it was maybe it was a week away. I thought it was a was a thing here. But like, yeah, how do you explain to a friend instead of like lecturing your friend?

Jessamyn 45:59 Well, and making them understand. So it doesn't seem like you just don't want me to be happy or whatever. I

mathowie 46:03 guess this was the class. This was the thing. I guess that was the comment I was describing where he says it exactly like this is what's going to happen. This could be money for a plane ticket. There's gonna be visa problems. And like, this is how the story plays out the entire thing. This is how the scam works. So sad. I agree. And lonely six year old woman, I wouldn't know what to tell her. Like, I would hate to break your heart. But Jesus. That's a scammer.

Jessamyn 46:34 Well, and because it's you know, we've all known like people who have had, like, deadbeat loser, boyfriends or girlfriends, and you're just like, blah, your boyfriend girlfriends. Like, whatever, there's nothing you can say. The will that will actually like get that point across in any real way. You just have to kind of be like, well, here's my advice. And I guess I'll leave it in your hands,

mathowie 46:56 we kind of need. Well, the default rules the internet, to now be if anything you do online at all ever ends with the action of wiring money to Africa, like something was

Jessamyn 47:12 fail, stop. In fact, somebody somebody should set up like a business. That's like legit money to Africa, you know, where it's like, they'll only send money to Africa. If you've, like, you know, for people who need legitimate money, they'll only go through this one company, or whatever, you know, I mean, man, I sold my car on Craigslist. I don't think I mentioned this to you. I sold my car on Craigslist last week did you get? Yes, I got two separate weirdos. And I remembered that you had had a weirdo instance, basically, I had these guys show up. And I'm selling the car for like, whatever. 1200 bucks, like not that much money. But they basically showed up and I'd had the car at a mechanic like last week. So I was like, there's nothing wrong with this car, except the things that I know are wrong with it. And they were like, no, no, no, it's totally leaking trainee fluids. What? Shut up. It totally isn't. And they were like 20 fluids, you know, flammable and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, which I guess is true. But I was basically so they're outside fucking around with my car. I go inside. I search AskMe metal filter, I find your comment about people trying to scam you when you sold your car. And it was the same thing as this sort of African scammer thing where it was like now they're going to tell you, you know, your car's dangerous to drive. Now they're going to tell you, they'll buy it for cents on the dollar. Because totally, they were like, I'm afraid to drive it. And I was like, Oh, well, sorry. You came all this way. And then. And then they were like, but we'll take it for $500 Yeah. And I was like, what you're not afraid to drive it if the price is right. Really? So yeah, it was just really weird. I was like, I'm sorry. No deal. Um, yeah. But but it was just sort of interesting. And then I had some other like lady from South Dakota be like, I will send my private shipper for it. And I will pay you by company check. No, friggin oh,

mathowie 49:15 you should pay me back the difference.

Jessamyn 49:20 Well, and every time you get email from somebody emailing you from Craigslist, it now comes with like, scam alerts on the on the on the top, like of the email, the email itself basically says, you know, don't trust anybody, basically. And I was just like, holy shit, you know? So yeah, I just found the comment that you

mathowie 49:45 Yeah, the thing that's depressing is the like, we go through so much of this stuff, and were super smart about this stuff. And like, we know how to search and like, I don't know what my parents will do. Like, they'll search

Jessamyn 49:58 quickly too. And I have asked Metafilter where I know I've read about it, but like my

mathowie 50:02 dad would fall for any of these, you know, always believes people like, god I just got these days. I hope he has no control over the bank account anymore.

Jessamyn 50:14 Right, right, right. And you know, the next day somebody showed up at my house, another mechanic. I was like, these guys said, training fluid blah. And he's like, Oh, come on, drove, drove it around and handed me cash. Like, it was such it was so clearly not Yeah. Yeah. And and I'm just like, whatever this single woman being like,

mathowie 50:34 well, it's always the same scam. You wonder if it's like published somewhere like, hey, everyone follow this script? Or if they just realized if these guys all came up with it independently on their own? Why people science that you know about cars, and they don't and then you talk them down?

Jessamyn 50:51 Or it's like, there's asked Metafilter first, right? How do I break into one of these kinds of sheds with a special lock?

mathowie 50:58 Yeah, they could exchange tips on how best to scam people. Right with trendy fluid because hardly anyone knows about transmissions.

Jessamyn 51:08 Yeah, well, and I basically told him that I knew everything else was working. And that was the thing I hadn't mentioned.

mathowie 51:15 interested?

Jessamyn 51:18 Yeah. So AskMe Metafilter saved me some money.

mathowie 51:22 Any other favorites from AskMe? 85.

Jessamyn 51:25 Let me see that one was pretty much let me see what else I got on my list. Well, there was the Why are there so many dead deer bodies on the Merritt, which is one of those things that's really only going to be interesting to people on the East Coast. But the Merritt Parkway is this like highway that goes through Connecticut? It's kind of like a restricted access. But it's like a pretty place to drive because there's no trucks.

mathowie 51:51 Is it a public highway? Do you have to pay a toll? Yeah,

Jessamyn 51:53 yeah, it's well, I don't know if it's a toll highway or not. But it's beautiful. And like the alternative is like taking whatever, 84 or something into New York, which sucks. And so it's totally awesome. And yet, there's like lots and lots and lots of dead deer on the side of the highway. And so it's not like, Why do deer get run over? But like, why are there so many on the merit? And like, no one nowhere?

mathowie 52:20 Because they're bordering that highway?

Jessamyn 52:24 Yeah. And I think you know, it's harder to get the government vehicle guys driving back up. And yeah, I mean, nobody had kind of the nobody had kind of the authoritative answer, though. I really did enjoy this answer, which, where the guy talked about his dad being a professional deer hitter. He would like purposely hit any deer on the highway and then take it home and Oh. But I mean, the guy talks about it, like, this is what it was like growing up in my family. And like, you know, I know nothing about that kind of stuff. So it was really interesting to read.

mathowie 53:00 Wow. It's now about once a week where I actually I almost ride my bike over a carcass. I have to Oh, God really? Yeah. What kind of yesterday was probably a small mammal could have been a cat or, or a possum or something. The other day there was a full cow vertebrae just sitting on the road. Like the cow had died next to the road got picked clean it somehow the vertebrae made its way onto the street. And then a few days later is a loop I do all the time. You know, a lot of times I'm climbing a hill, I'm just looking down because I've not really I've just started painting in the zone. And also ah, like there's boats darted around it, and I saw the vertebrae crushed a few days later by a car wheel. I mean, it was huge. I actually Oh, it was yeah, there's just like four feet long these monster boat. Fuck a log across the street. It's crazy.

Jessamyn 54:00 Which reminds me of one of the AskMe metal filter threads that I really like how do I drill a hole through a human tooth without shattering?

mathowie 54:09 Or what for like a backless?

Jessamyn 54:13 Well, it's somebody who got a bunch of teeth taken out. I think it would look cool up. Well, maybe it's a little sad, right? It was interesting to me as somebody, but at some point my mom gave me all of my baby teeth that she had taken from me as as the pseudo Tooth Fairy. And so I have like a little envelope of tea. Oh, that I don't.

mathowie 54:41 I don't know. It's creepy. Someone asked someone talked about like, yeah, their mom keeping their baby teeth. They got it. They're like, this is the grossest thing ever. I don't want

Jessamyn 54:53 I like Tommy because it's not just baby teeth. It's like teeth like well, whatever. You're gonna get grossed out but like it's a little envelope of teeth. Then my mom at some point was like, you'd probably like he's more than I do, which is probably true. So now I have them.

mathowie 55:06 I recognize this user had all her teeth taken out for dentures, he or she.

Jessamyn 55:12 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, and it was kind of interesting, because they're like, if you've read my past, I mean, it's a user. We have a lot of users with, like, messed up teeth. And this was somebody who was like, Yeah, I'm finally doing this stuff and taking care of my mouth. And yeah, dentures.

mathowie 55:26 I was surprised. Once a month, someone's getting all their teeth removed for dentures, and they're like, 30. I guess me just born with really, really bad teeth.

Jessamyn 55:38 Well, it's not even bad teeth. Always. It's like bad gums. Bad water. I mean, we a lot of us grew up with like fluoride, and whatever you think about Florida definitely, like makes your teeth harder. But if you grew up in places without it, and you have sort of genetically bad teeth or gums, yeah, you're kind of doomed. And there's really not a lot you can do even if you've been kind of brushing and flossing is sort of an adult.

mathowie 56:00 Yeah, I just, yeah, I had never, I always assumed dentures were like 65 year old people got, you know, dirty Jeopardy commercials. But I had no idea somebody young people have to go through that. And people don't see they seem pretty ambivalent about it. It's like,

Jessamyn 56:18 well, you can get implants now, which were a lot easier to kind of deal with, you know, like, when you get your teeth pulled out, you get like, little posts, put in your gums, and then they actually attach kind of individual kind of tea to them, which is different than having a whole kind of plate jammed up in the top of your mouth. So you can do it in ways that are a lot less horrific also. And if you've got bad teeth, it's better to do that than to just kind of have gaps or have really rotten teeth. Just another just another thing I learned about in AskMe.

mathowie 56:49 Really everything else my favorites list is like suggest foods suggest foods suggest British that comes? Nothing.

Jessamyn 56:56 Are you hungry is that

mathowie 56:59 can be baby blogs. I want difficult brain teasers. That one's pretty good. I guess that one, I sort of marked as a favorite when there's no answers at all hoping that it's going to be good. And it looks like it's pretty damn good. Though MIT mystery Hunt is mentioned as just a whole bunch of really hard problems.

Jessamyn 57:19 Yeah, the MIT mystery hand is crazy. Yeah,

mathowie 57:21 this is someone who just wants to keep their brain active and like give me puzzles. So people like to lots and lots of logical puzzles.

Jessamyn 57:29 Cool. Who is that person? Oh, it's Chris from Last fall.

mathowie 57:32 Oh, I always wanted to a list of like

Jessamyn 57:35 user formerly known as Conte. If you'll recall, I liked with

mathowie 57:40 you here. I was thinking whether you hear like a like the Monty Hall problem. And when you wrap your head around it, or the conveyor belt problem, you finally wrap your head around it, you're like, wow, I want more of these. So I was hoping that thread would pan out.

Jessamyn 57:57 I liked his profile a lot because he lists his occupation as sociopath and it pretty much matches his awesome, but otherwise, I don't really know the guy. I hope he keeps his brain sharp though.

mathowie 58:10 Yeah. I think that's about it. Okay, it was probably the last one, this would be good.

Jessamyn 58:18 We can we could sign off with with our last happiest moment

mathowie 58:22 last habeas moment that might or might not include any of us.

Jessamyn 58:28 I've been in another one already today.

mathowie 58:30 All right.

not_on_display 58:34 So I started on Metafilter about 280 days ago. I quickly grew to think that it was best $5 I spent a long time. It was like the first place on the internet that I thought, okay, I can I can live with these people. I like I like these people. And then I saw that there was going to be a meeting like a realtors Anonymous meeting.

Jessamyn 58:59 Do you make it sound like hey, I'm new to

not_on_display 59:01 Mefi. So yeah, so I went to the meetup. And I thought, Oh, these people are pretty cool to drink beers with. And so that was about February grad sucks meetup. That was the breadsticks meetup. And I went home. Somebody else said, oh, yeah, we're gonna have a Northhampton meetup and Jasmine is gonna be their language that's gonna be there. I thought, Oh, great. I can I can meet Jessamyn just to see what you know what it's like to run this crazy madhouse. And I want to thank her for being nice to me when she deleted one of my posts on it post. Mercifully, it was deleted soon afterwards, when I heard about that. I was like, No, I'm not doing anything that day. It's only 90 miles away. I can drive that no problem. What the hell, you know, I need to get out. I don't have a social life. This is gonna be fun, you know. So I get to Northampton. And I parked my car and I find the bar and I walk in and it's going on. I looked at the T shirts though bartenders were wearing I realized that was in the wrong bar. And so I walked next door and I look across the table and I saw you and you waved at me and or motion. Hey, come here and I, oh, she recognizes me, that's cool. I came up to you gave me a big hug and said sit down. And then we started talking. And it was just like I was talking to somebody I'd known for a long time. But instead of catching up, though, it was more like, like, so who the hell are you? You're talking to everybody else. Each time I sort of like, wind my way around to where you were in, sort of compare notes. And so as the night later people dropped off, went home or whatever, and I ended up just talking to you and we were touching elbows and, and talking about what what we were talking about. I don't remember. The guy at the door is like, okay, come on, leave already. We're about to close. And we go outside and I thought, Oh, are you going to be thrown off economy said yes, I'm Psych. See, again, as I was driving home, I was like, why can I stop thinking about this woman? And I have a crush on her and my mind kept just rolling that the whole 90 miles. By the time I got home, I was like, Oh, I'm not gonna be able to sleep unless I tell her that I like her. That I really like like her. So I dashed off the email to saying saying I like like you die I'm gonna hit Send Now. And I woke up in the morning and I got a quick email back from you saying I like like you to that I'm running around all day, but I promise I'll write you later. That was my favorite metal filter moment ever. Yeah. Well, welcome to my world. That's always I respect that. You know, that's what I quit you chose this quote that was overspend. Stevie is cute

mathowie 1:02:06 that was downright This American Life like first time I listed I was like whoa, that was like holy cow. It sounds like a slickly produced vague from Chicago NPR

Jessamyn 1:02:19 maybe I'm in the wrong business. Yeah. Wow.

mathowie 1:02:25 So I think you want to say about that. I had no press $5 You are the best $5 I've ever spent that was creepy.

Jessamyn 1:02:35 I think you meant it in a really nice yeah.

mathowie 1:02:38 That's about wraps up the happy happy Joy Joy show. Oh, we should ask for what are we going to ask for for next time?

Jessamyn 1:02:48 The

mathowie 1:02:49 favorite thread ever maybe?

Jessamyn 1:02:51 The best hack you ever learned from AskMe Metafilter Yeah, favorite thread ever favorite. Do you think?

mathowie 1:02:58 Yeah, call us call? What was it again? Go lilac by both Delilah. Oh 3503 Go lilac or go to podcast.medical.com and click on the little call me you know call you and then you leave a message. Leave us a message about less than three minutes. Quick story on your what favorite? Asked Metafilter thread ever or favorite metal filter thread ever?

Jessamyn 1:03:22 Either one or should we do one

mathowie 1:03:24 has metal filter with the best at thing you ever learned from last metal filter or the

Jessamyn 1:03:29 the best thing you ever learned from us?

mathowie 1:03:31 I thought was pretty good. Hey,

Jessamyn 1:03:34 I think that's gonna be cool. I'm gonna be great.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:37 All right, thanks.