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A transcript for Episode 182: too many trees, not enough goats (2022-03-07).

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Cortex 0:07 Hey, it's episode 182 of the medical term, monthly podcast. I am Josh cortex Mullard.

Jessamyn 0:14 And I'm Jessamyn.

Cortex 0:15 And here we are, it is a couple days in the month already, it's been a, like, that's the problem with February man, it's over several days sooner than you would think it would be.

Jessamyn 0:24 Well, and here's what my problem is. I think I talked about this probably every March, but I have prescriptions that I get to pick up once a month, and they're prescriptions that you're not allowed to pick up early, you know, and so I picked them up on the 26th of every month, except for, you know, God damn March, when I have to, like, do some arithmetic to figure out what day I'm allowed to have them. You know what I mean? So like, if it's like a 30, year, 31 day month, they don't care, but for some reason, February they do care. aggravating Josh,

Cortex 1:02 that's Yeah, that sucks. I hate it that is like, it's funny, because like, that's aggravating in the opposite way that my current health insurance is ever creating, which is like, expecting to promptly have stuff processed and delivered when you like, re up a prescription that's long standing, nonetheless, is sort of like, well, that might take a while. So go ahead and request like, you know, two weeks in advance, because it was never on time that and it's it's my problem. If I fail to do that, essentially, it's it's, yeah, it's medical stuff we have with our medical system,

Jessamyn 1:38 can I just tell you that like, I'm actually literally probably gonna, like write a blog post about this. But like, since COVID, started. I've had two gi doctors, my primary care physician, my dentist, and my therapist, and my prescribing psychiatrist, have all retired or moved on to get other

Cortex 2:01 jobs. She says,

Jessamyn 2:04 like, three of those were in the last month. So like, I think there's like you hit an age, where you've had the people who were older than you be the people that fit those roles, but then they aged out of that and retire. And then you're like, oh, man, I'm gonna have to get a person who's my age to do this job. dentist or doctor, prescribing psychiatrist, and Dang. So, you know, my doctor is still going to come to me for tech support problems. So I'll still see him around. My dentist is just with all of us, I think. So I was like, Oh, so you're retiring? He's like, I was like, What did you just tell me you're retiring. But really, you're gonna keep being a dentist. I think he just doesn't want to run his own practice anymore. And he's got kind of commute, so he's not going to be in town anymore. prescribing psychiatrists. I don't know what the hell happened with her. I had a fantastic meeting with her. And then like, a week later, I got a call from the office like, hey, we need to reschedule your may appointment because she's not with the practice anymore.

Cortex 3:14 She became a proscribed. Fine. Yeah.

Jessamyn 3:17 I don't know what happened. And it's too bad because I don't know I have anxiety that I'm going to get a new doctor and that doctor is not going to agree with my, you know, 10 year plan that has been working of what's been working, because that happened one time and it was traumatic. So I worry. Yeah, no, I

Cortex 3:39 understand what that sucks. Yeah, I'm sorry. You have all that sudden, provider uncertainty. That's bullshit.

Jessamyn 3:47 I mean, the good news is getting another doctor is going to be easy getting another dentist, like there is another dentist but I don't like him. So I may have to find another dentist. There is another prescribing psychiatrist who's fine. The reason I was meeting with the lady is because the guy is just too busy. And yeah, I don't know about the GI doc. Hopefully my gallbladder Oh, hang on for a while longer. That'd be nice.

Cortex 4:12 Trying to think of a gallbladder joke, but

Jessamyn 4:15 I don't know if there are gallbladder jokes. Nobody really. I

Cortex 4:17 mean, there's there's always

Jessamyn 4:18 socks.

Cortex 4:20 Yeah, yeah. I mean, something to do with bile something to do with stones. Fatty contents like there's there's probably room to move there. But like, it's probably the only good gallbladder jokes would also only be good between two people who have both been dealing with gallbladder issues. And so there's like sufficient like,

Jessamyn 4:38 and so that's me, but not you,

Cortex 4:39 I think, right? Exactly. Like yeah, I know people who've had gallbladder problems, but I haven't so I haven't really had to internalize it. Yeah,

Jessamyn 4:48 yeah. It means one Donna does it at a time is what it means. difficult, very difficult. Well,

Cortex 4:55 if I'm trying to speak about it outside of my expertise, does that mean I've got lot of call sir that's what I was looking for. Yes, episode one a two is there was already number news. I shouldn't I shouldn't ask you if you didn't bring it up because you shouldn't just complain.

Jessamyn 5:17 And there isn't it's kind of a pleasing Roman numeral but other than that,

Cortex 5:22 no actually see V I

Jessamyn 5:26 know there's some M's in there. Oh, no, no. Yeah. Oh.

Cortex 5:31 And about CC LXXXI. Is that I think that might be a

Jessamyn 5:36 thank you for coming to Josh tries to sound out a row. Join us next month.

Cortex 5:44 You know, they have like those numbers stations. Yeah. What if it was that except for someone like trying to figure out each number as a Roman numeral and just like stumbling around? Yeah.

Jessamyn 5:55 I don't know if you remember. But I sharply remember. You know, when the year 2000 hit, and all of those like, MC VX MXCV I like things at the end of movies just turned into Mmm.

Cortex 6:11 Yeah. No, that was that was that was that was a pretty exciting. Reset. Kids these days don't understand what we had to deal with back in the 20th century, when we're trying to figure out what the date was based on the Roman numerals at the end of the movie,

Jessamyn 6:24 right? Yeah, I guess that's true, right, like and then x and then x x and x x i

Cortex 6:32 readable? Like, you know, a rolling over odometers satisfy again. Domina rolled over last week didn't What did roll over 200 Oh, that's that's actually a cool number.

Jessamyn 6:46 Yeah, it had been almost 100,000 I think I mentioned it last month, maybe. But like, it's been almost 100,000 for like months. And I don't go anywhere. Yeah. And so it's nice.

Cortex 6:58 It's very exciting. Yeah, this is a six digit.

Jessamyn 7:01 Yeah, but I'm sorry, you were saying something.

Cortex 7:03 I was just gonna say like rolling over the odometer is exciting and Ufa numbers sort of way. And eventually order of magnitude sort of way with decimal, but it's like it's not. It's not a game changer. And it seems like that's a funny thing about the weird lack of place. SNESs of Roman numerals is like, oh, it really makes a fucking difference when we finally hit that odometer change and we can like get rid of this whole fucking spaghetti code. Yes thing. Like I move from 1999 to 2000. Like, that's huge. Like, yeah, mmm, fuck you. I'm done for the week.

Jessamyn 7:37 And then I'm done for the whole year. And I that was still pretty easy. Yep.

Cortex 7:44 Excuse me. The 180s who is? It is like, here well, you cheats. It is like that's how do we not see that first? Offense where? Yeah, no, you did. You did.

Jessamyn 7:58 I don't have anything to say about blink 182 Except they have a couple of pictures I like and that guy was drummer is dating that lady.

Cortex 8:07 I don't know anything about that.

Jessamyn 8:08 Oh, he's one of those like, super scruffy guys who have like very conventionally hot girlfriends. So like Pete Davidson, and what's your name? And Machine Gun Kelly and Megan Fox, and that guy, Travis, and whoever his girlfriend is. I don't even know

Cortex 8:28 that this Barker. Okay, I see him and I see him in pictures sitting next to Kourtney Kardashian. Yeah,

Jessamyn 8:35 that's probably right. That's probably right. So they're like it's three like tattooed gangly? Yeah, kind of scrubby guys, and then these women, and everyone's like, is this kind of what's happening now? That's odd. But maybe, I don't know. I don't know.

Cortex 8:50 Whatever. It's what's happening with those those three guys and those three women? Yeah. Right, blink 182. That's how we got there. Yes, well, it's like it's about half of a year to like if you were listening to a podcast episode, like one a day, every day. You'd be just right in the middle of the year now and why wouldn't you? That's there's there's there's everybody's 2023 challenge. Listen to an episode of the medicals or podcast every single day for half a year. Yeah, yeah. MATT map your way through. What did we figured out like 15 years or so?

Jessamyn 9:27 Figured out? I don't know.

Cortex 9:28 Click let's not have this discussion. Yeah. Every day have I talked about till death? Do we blogged before? It's a podcast featuring a couple of Australian guys or maybe New Zealand guys

Jessamyn 9:49 about Paul Blart Mall Cop.

Cortex 9:52 Yes, them and Justin and Griffin McElroy from my brother, my brother and me. They every year they want Watch Paul Blart Mall Cop to again, and then they record a podcast episode about it for Thanksgiving as a Thanksgiving tradition that they decided to do until they die. Oh,

Jessamyn 10:10 that's kind of adorable. So like, Yeah, it's fun. Well, we were saying, yeah, and yeah, that's a yearly tradition analysis restaurant again.

Cortex 10:19 Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, it's longer, but also there's more fart jokes to break it up, I guess. I don't know. It's interesting, because like, there's just not that much to say about the movie. And they're like, six years in now. And they're like, oh, boy, what do we say this

Jessamyn 10:31 kid find something different to say about the movie every year? I mean, I'd forget. Yeah. But But like,

Cortex 10:37 Yeah, I mean, I think that's part of is they find things? Oh, like an hour and a half? Yeah. It's it, I enjoy it a great deal. It's charming and weird. And such a strange sort of idea around such a mediocre movie. And

Jessamyn 10:53 yeah, well, and I'm really interested in sort of podcaster culture. You know what I mean? Like, I've been listening to some of the stuff recommended in the AskMe Metafilter thread, including a lot of futility closet, and the people who do futility closet. It's like one of their podcast empires, it's over now. But it was one of the podcasts that they do. At least one of which was very different. But like, there's just certain tics that go along with podcasting. like certain things you say, in kind of a repetitive way. And you have these like, bumper intros and outros, and, like, there's some stuff that's scripted and some stuff that's not scripted, at least in a lot of the podcasts I listen to. And it's funny for me because we do this thing. And there's never I mean, except for the fact that we go through the site. And I, what you tell me is the same order every time and I can't remember.

Cortex 11:53 It doesn't really matter, either. We just Yeah.

Jessamyn 11:54 But like, we have no other like, oh, it's time for viewer mail or whatever. You

Cortex 11:59 know what I mean? We don't have segments. We don't have bits.

Jessamyn 12:02 No, sometimes there's music. There's a theme song, but it varies. Yep. Yeah. I don't know how anyone can stand it if you're used to like regular, regular podcasts. And that's a joke. Because like, I listen to this podcast, you know?

Cortex 12:18 Yeah. So weird, though. We're, we're like, we're the dog may 95 of podcasts.

Jessamyn 12:24 I love that reference. And I understand it.

Cortex 12:27 Thank you. But also, we're extremely not the Lars von Trier of anything. If we can help it. There's a complicated guy. Which is a funny way to say asshole, but like, it's, you know, it's interesting. He's an asshole who's made a lot of cinematic art that I like.

Jessamyn 12:43 I mean, isn't that true of almost all directors like, it's like being like a really ranking politician. You've got to have something slightly wrong with you in order to even want that. But then there's a lot of people who accomplished a lot of good.

Cortex 12:54 I mean, I suspect there's a lot of directors who were actually just kind of fine. We just don't hear stories about them because they're just kind of fine.

Jessamyn 13:01 Jet. Seems like a nice guy. Yeah, he's

Cortex 13:03 like, it's probably perfectly nice. I bet it's a lot of fun to work on an Adam Sandler movie. I don't know that he's directed any recently but like that.

Jessamyn 13:11 That new movie was uh oh my god King James basketball player. LeBron. There there's a new basketball movie out there Adam Sandler is in and I believe he also produced Oh, nice.

Cortex 13:25 Yeah. Yeah, no, this is this is me just wildly speculating. I'm guessing he does not do a lot of direction because it seems like direction would probably be kind of an annoying and less fun part of it. Yeah. And my impression of like, the whole Adam Sandler like Happy Madison production thing is is a lot of people who like enjoy making movies in ways that are enjoyable and the fact that the movies are usually pretty dumb and stupid in a lot of ways doesn't really matter so much because like, yeah, they made a comedy people enjoy getting stoned and watching it and they had fun making it and probably there's not a lot of like Stanley Kubrick tormenting Shelley Duvall type stories about that kind of production. This one,

Jessamyn 14:00 right? Yeah. David Spade talking about actually working with Adam Sandler and some of his movies and that's exactly what it sounds like. The vibe is like, hey, let's all get together and make kind of a stupid movie. It's fun. We like it. We all get along.

Cortex 14:14 And to bring it back to Paul Blart Mall Cop two I think that was part of Kevin James's take on is like, hey, you know? Yeah, I wanted to go to Vegas. It was a lot of fun filming in Vegas and being in Vegas. So yeah, we mean moving back to Vegas, and that's why it took place in Vegas. I was like, Okay, well, that's actually that's a pretty reasonable philosophy, I suppose. You know. It's still a very stupid move. Sometimes

Jessamyn 14:32 it's just because you want to do I don't think I've ever seen either one of them. That's not the one that Seth Rogen is in right

Cortex 14:41 now. Is that mall? No, no, no, that was that that was a shit. I know which one that was I observe and report. I think I never actually saw it. But I get the impression that was a bit better of a movie and sort of like a weird darkish comedy where it's to is look at the man eat the old banana. Look at the man. Fall down, look at the man get in a suitcase and fall down. Look at the man get in a fight with a bird. You know? So it's there's, there's, here's, here's the thing about Paul Blart Mall Cop too. And this is something that I've sort of reflected on as after having listened to a bunch of till death, we've learned episodes and then after listening to two or three of them went and saw screening with several other friends in town who also are fans of the podcast. It's not, it's not a very good movie. It's not an excruciatingly terrible movie, but it is a really dumb, like, it's a dumb, stupid comedy. Like it's not, it's not well written. There's some good physical comedy, there's occasional like gags that kind of work. Overall, the whole thing just feels kind of like a lazy dumb comedy, and it's unremarkable. It's been made more remarkable by this podcast for me, otherwise, it would have just been like, that shitty Kevin James comedy that came out. And then

Jessamyn 15:55 Kevin James is fine, but that wasn't really to my taste.

Cortex 15:59 Yeah. And it's like, it's like, it's like, whatever. But like, once you start, like really sort of digging in and trying to figure out what you think about every little aspect of it. Like, you start looking at it with a different set of eyes and it doesn't redeem the movie in any sense, but it makes the movie somehow, slightly more than it would be if it were just standing on its own merits rather than like the sort of weird cult of entertainment and dissection from from the outside. I don't know I think I lost the point. I started from there. But anyway, Paul Blart Mall Cop to utterly not indispensable, like it's a very dispensable movie. And it's neither as terrible as doing a podcast to torture yourself by watching it every year. Sounds like it should be. Nor is it as good as you would like it to be after you've put yourself through that process of watching it like every year for several years, I guess. Right? I don't know.

Jessamyn 16:52 I have one movie recommendation, actually, while we're here. Yeah, I saw the sparks movie. Finally. The movie about fan sparks. Yeah, it is really good. It is very good. And it's on Netflix. I was surprised how much I liked it. Part of it is because you know, Jim is a musician. And so he appreciated the musical aspects of it. We watched it together. And part of it was just it's a really good movie. And the sparks guys are really interesting. You know, they're kind of weird art rock. And they've been keeping it real. All this time. They're still touring in their 70s. And, yeah, the movie follows them around.

Cortex 17:30 Okay. Yeah. I don't know if I have any good like recent movie recommendations. I think my my TV side, we've been watching old episodes of only connect recently.

Jessamyn 17:43 I've never seen that. I think you might

Cortex 17:45 enjoy it. It's, it's, it's a very British, like, trivia show. Like not not not a not a quiz show. Not a panel show. It's like, it's a straight up like, this is like Jeopardy nerd TV. But it's like, you know, British inflicted, and it's, it reminds me, you know, in a way of sort of the way I think cryptic crosswords in the UK style are weird to me as someone who was exposed to just American crosswords growing up, like there's a different feel to it. But it's still nerds being nerds competitively, and it's it's charming and fun and nice. And half of the questions I would never have had a chance to get in the first place because they are very, very, like UK centric, like questions about, you know, strings of British MPs from some specific historical event in the 70s. Like, yeah, no, that wasn't going to happen. But you know, sometimes I'm like, Oh, hey, I know that okay. Anyway, it's fun I like it. It's it's it's dry, but not humorless, I guess

Jessamyn 18:46 on a platform or do you just dig it out of the web?

Cortex 18:49 I have no idea I could not I could

Jessamyn 18:54 not tell you. You could not tell me how you get to it.

Cortex 18:57 Well, I get to it by watching it on a magical box where stuff that someone else figures out how you get to it is okay, so I never I never know never know. But it's nice and there's I don't know 20 seasons of it out there to whatever extent is out there but like you know, it's been going on for 20 seasons or something only connect there we go and and also it's like the name is taken from presumably the same thing that like Mefi only connects name was taken from which I think is some some quote from something but I can't remember what which is why I'm not very good at it. How I Learned Lee going is that backup and gear again or break

Jessamyn 19:36 it? I got a nine six the day before yesterday. Nice partly because two of the answers were words. One was weaker. The it's, you know, it's days ago, so it's okay to mention but you know, Uighur, the Northwest, Chinese Turkic population, and one of the other ones was a bobcat. Are both Oh, okay, which is like that kind of photography. And I mangled the spelling on both of them so terrible but still got credit for both. And so like I'm hovering in the middle of D and feeling okay about it having a good time. And Jim is really at the bottom of see for no reason we can figure out he's just having an offseason. But it's been fun. Like, yeah, it's good time and people seem to be doing medium. Okay, mid season classic, I think was coming up.

Cortex 20:35 Nice. Yeah, no, I was I was thinking about it this like, I think I've said this every time a season comes around, it's like, oh, well, I didn't do it this time. But maybe next time I'll pick sort of, I decided, yeah, I decided to hold off on a because of because of a Wordle. Actually,

Jessamyn 20:49 that'll lead us into projects really nicely. But talk to me about work.

Cortex 20:53 Well, I started the I'm gonna say the hipster thing. And it's like, I was playing Wordle. Before it was cool. Well, before it blew up before

Jessamyn 21:01 it was on the New York Times. Yeah.

Cortex 21:05 And I played it for a few days. And I got this nice this nice little thing. Yeah. And then I realized I was really thinking about my streak and thinking about like, Oh, what if I forgot to play for a day? And I was like, You know what? No, fuck that. No, I'm not, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna put that in my brain. Like, there's like I like Well, I think it's a lovely little game. And also, I personally get stressed at the idea of maintaining my streak and shit. And like, I'm just gonna pass on that. So like, I played a few days, I was like, this is nice. I don't really want this right now. Put it down. And then it completely blew up. But that's kind of where I am. Like, I've tried to like think about length, let language log alerted league the same way I'll till the day I die. I will keep conflating those two. Sure. But, you know, it's sort of the same thing. Like I like literally, I like I have liked doing it. But like, you know, I stopped after I had a couple seasons row, whereas really, the stress of keeping up with it was like the problem, right? And until I feel like I'm like, You know what, I'm ready for a whole month of keeping track of 25 days. Yeah, then, you know, I'll just hold off. So not yet. Not yet.

Jessamyn 22:13 Well, before we start talking about projects, I also want to mention some mantle, which is really where my head is at. It's kind of like Wordle, except instead of it taking you less than six guesses fewer than six guesses. It's, it's it's an aboutness game, so you put in a word and it tells you how close semantically it is to the target word. So instead of taking five or six guesses that often takes two to 300 guesses. But like if you want a word game if you're like, I really like Wordle but it's over too quickly and doesn't focus enough on word meaning. This is your this is your jam. Yeah, I've

Cortex 22:58 heard this a mantle I love the I love the idea of it. I should play with it at some point.

Jessamyn 23:03 I've really enjoyed it and you know you can have a streak but it kind of doesn't matter. It resets for me it's 7pm Each day so for 4pm for you each day. Yeah,

Cortex 23:13 well and to be clear, like the streak thing doesn't fucking matter right? Like it doesn't matter like it's not so much like I'm telling you but like I'm explaining my brain like I understand that the street doesn't matter I understand that I should just like completely not fucking thing about I just can't not I just can't not sure about it. Sure, it's weird brain thing. Yeah.

Jessamyn 23:38 So there are a couple let's just

Cortex 23:41 get let me let me sneak in. We've got a job. post the URL to the entire sub site. That's that's me doing good behind the scenes podcasting. There is a request from Wesley AC for someone to do a commission drawing of a Taroko card in the style of the Rider Waite tarot deck for a specific scene. So if that is you, if you like doing station if you're good at that Rider Waite style, go check out Wesley ACS jobs post because

Unknown Speaker 24:12 that sounds reasonable pay.

Cortex 24:16 Alright, and now I know I said to you, I am projects.

Jessamyn 24:22 Well, there are two kinds of Wordle analogues. Lipson has quantal where you guess a quantum computing equation in tries? It's, it's not there. It's not their thing. It's, um, I mean, it's ridiculous. It is. They're promoting and on behalf of someone else, like I can't do anything with this. But like, maybe it's fun for you. I don't know. And then um, Then there's dn DL, which is by Eva poet, which it feels like there's a wordle clone for everybody. I decided to go in a slightly different direction when I made dwindle a game in which you try to guess the Dungeons and Dragons monster of the day by assigning values to its attributes and be told where you've got them. Right. Right. So much joy. That's I mean, it was ridiculous and impossible. But like, you know, fun.

Cortex 25:34 Yeah, that's interesting about Lipson is quantum quantum post for this should just be a post on the front page, like, first of all, like lip some, you're fine. If you're listening and wondering if it got mentioned, the thought here is good, but actually, like we've cut down the like, we've really retracted the no friends link thing a while ago. It's okay to post stuff that's like in a non weird shill scammy way that people you know, have made. So this could go on the front page, and yeah, kind of projects in that sentence. It's really supposed to be your own thing. But also, you know, if I can harm done, but yeah, this is like, ya know, if you've got a friend who made something cool, yeah, you're gonna make a post about that. You know, you'll get side if you're being fucking weird about it. But like, I never believed the only people

Jessamyn 26:23 spammer like last week, spammers and how? That was, like somebody who actually posted spammy shit. I think it was in Jim's posts, which is why I remember it. When it comes

Cortex 26:36 up, all right. Yeah, no, we had, yeah, we had a spammer on the front page. We did an exchange. Like, it's interesting. Like one of the one of the things that has happened since we got we foregrounded the fee waiver request thing. So it's like, yeah, at this point,

Jessamyn 26:50 it's a push button, because I noticed that just in my notes, but I don't know what you did.

Cortex 26:56 Yeah, well, this one, this was a few couple a few months ago, I don't know maybe it was late last year. For a while now, we've had a note on the signup process where once you got a Pay Pal part, there was a line that said explicitly Hey, and if you can't do the $5, or can't do pay pal, or whatever, fee just Well, well, originally, it was like, you know, contact us here at the contact form. And they could click that and right, oh, hey, here's the deal. And then we're like, let's just fucking streamline this, because like, you know, there's people who like, won't really get the contact form, per se. You know, it's like, it's one of the things were so easy for me as someone really used to all these processes be like, Well, I mean, it's obvious, but like, you don't make it more obvious. So we added, we replaced that, hey, you can let us know with a button that you can click that takes you to a screen that says, hey, you know, here's why I want to be waiver. That's nice. And so we have seen more fee waiver requests come through. I'm not sure we've seen more non spammy ones coming through on the whole, but like, you know, we have spammy and non spammy ones and the spammy ones. Sometimes we just refuse them outright. And sometimes if it feels like a little borderline, we'll make a note. And I think what we ended up with was some spammer who managed to not be super obviously a spammer when they did the fee waiver thing, and then they spammed, but we ditch a lot of obvious spammers going in and between like just lower overall volume and I think the whole like spamming thing being those spamming rules changed along with rest of the web to some extent. You know, doing it manually just is not like what an amateur is into anymore. But like because the fee waiver thing I think we're also catching a lot of people who might have paid the five bucks and taking the gamble previously and now they're like paying nothing and giving the game away by having to go through a manual approval queue for like they're not even getting in the door to get banned the first time that spam they're just not getting in the door at all. Love it. Yeah, it's it's it's working. Good.

Jessamyn 28:53 I'm glad. And I also wanted to mention this post by red Nikki that was front page posted by lobsterman the world's first granny square. Yeah, right.

Cortex 29:08 That was That was great.

Jessamyn 29:09 Basically, you know, granny squares or a crochet motif. Red Nikki, she found the day. Was that

Cortex 29:17 sorry, no, no, no, no. Oh, I

Jessamyn 29:19 thought you were like, checking. Like, hey, what? Okay, yeah, red Nikki thinks she found the first published version of it and contacted some historians and blah blah, blah. And it's just, yeah, just a really cool story. And and there's more granny squares that you can make and it just shows it at pattern for crazy afghan is literally what it was called in Prairie farmer magazine in 1885. Yeah, I love dance. I think of them as like, a thing for my child. Because I think I had friends whose parents had these, we have them. And I always liked them.

Cortex 30:06 Yeah, I don't know if my mom ever made Afghans but there were Afghans around like my grandma's house. And like, you know, there were always there Afghans around. I think about the granny square too, is like, it's become such a go to sort of, like simple sort of starter project thing because like, you know, if you don't know what a granny square is, look it up. You do know what a granny square is. It's just a specific, kind of, like, simple square, symmetrical pattern for fabric work, but, yeah, but uh, but ya know, I have such strong associations with like, it's a very sort of like, it's a very, like, domestic craft. thing. Like, it's, it's sort of iconic in that way, the way you know, granny square builds, blanket blankets, and such are a thing. So.

Jessamyn 30:59 Yeah, I just thought it was a really cool, really cool thing. Those were my three main projects. You got any?

Cortex 31:07 Let's see. There is gucky has been Twitch streaming. The Saturday morning. That looked really cool. Basically, just like, you know, curated collection of odd stuff. On a weekly basis, yeah, it looks like that from the from the schedule. But anyway, yes. I enjoy that sort of like media resurrection sort of approach to streaming. Let's see what else did actually look through.

Oh, I mean, we should also mention, there's a third word of project was, did I miss one? You missed one. There was also will EFS Wordle Wordle. What if Myrtle but 10 letters, which I think I poked. I poked at that or similar variation. One point is like, I love the idea. And also I hate every moment. So

Jessamyn 32:11 what's the manual is good for if you want to love and hate every minute of it.

Cortex 32:17 It's Oh, man, you know, what I've been playing the Wordle of hardcore video game releases is Elden ring. And it's sort of the same thing. Like I love this. And it's terrible. Why am I doing it? We have got it probably talked about. So there's a game called Dark Souls that has become sort of a touch point. touchstone for specific kinds of game design. And it came out years and years ago, from a company called From Software, Japanese video game developer. And they made several Dark Souls games, and they've made some other games in the same sort of genre, there's Bloodborne, there's a game called second row that's, like, traditional Japanese, or your sort of vibe. And then they've made this new game called El Elden. Ring. And all these games have in common a reputation for being very hard. Which is true, like you talk to people who are dedicated players to these games, and like, there's a lot of takes on Well, it's not, it's not hard or impossible, you just have to like learn how to play it, which is also kind of true, but also they're hard. guys

Jessamyn 33:28 seem hard is like somewhat objective, like how much do you need to use your brain? How much do you act up the right kind of reflexes? How long does it take to get?

Cortex 33:36 Yeah, yeah, and all these things need to be like accounted for and how you describe a game, it's hard, because like, you know, in that sense, like a lot of MMOs are hard, because they're structured to keep you playing forever, you know. And that's not the same sense of hardness as when people talk about something like these games where it's hard because the enemies do a lot of damage when they hit you. There's no casual enemies, like, literally everything in the game could kill you in two or three hits, probably, it's just like, some of them are easier to avoid or easier to beat to the punch, and you learn the patterns of enemies and then you can more easily avoid doing damage for them. So it's a game, it's a kind of game that like requires a lot of discipline is how I've come to taking like, like talking about it, it requires a lot of not being casual. When you engage with things in it, which requires a lot of attention. It requires a lot of attention. And to some extent, it does require some twitch reflexes which makes them not really super accessible to people who have a hard time with that. I have like a seemingly perfectly good central nervous system and my twitch reflexes aren't great. So it's a challenge. But anyone who has like, you know, motor control issues or any number of other things that might affect their ability to like quickly execute real time commands. It's probably gonna have a kind of shitty time with these games because they require a lot of that not necessarily, like the most demanding most twitchy thing ever There's twitchy are games but like, these are games where you have to do to actually yeah, yeah, you have to be you have to be at least pretty solidly competently, being twitchy all the time is kind of thing like that. It's a protracted effort to stay alive in them would be a good way to put it. So these games have traditionally had this thing where like, it's really hard and like the normal enemies will kill you, the bosses will superduper kill you. And they're just often huge behemoths or fire breathing dragons, and you're just some dude with a sword, and you still have to win that fight.

Jessamyn 35:38 And so is it like, is it? Are there? Is there a, like a cleverness aspect to it? Like, is it like, You got to figure out like the one crazy trick or

Cortex 35:49 there's some of that? Yeah, like, there's definitely ways you can make fights easier than just like, run, edit with your sword, you know, there may be like, Well, maybe if you use an elemental weapon, you know, it will do a lot more damage to that. Or maybe if you find this spot to hide from and shoot it with arrows, it'll take a while, but you can take it down that way. Or maybe you summon a helper, another player in the online world who's also playing, and they will literally join your game for that fight and help you fight that thing. Or maybe learn to use some spells that will actually do a lot more damage than like hitting it with a sword or, you know, there's, there are a lot of that, like, if you figure out a way to do it, it may be easier than just, you know, rushing in. And the game. The other thing about these games is they tend to be very arcane about that stuff. It's not like a tooltip pops up says, Hey, have you tried using poison damage that will do damage over time, and you can blame it, you know, it's like, poison exists in the world. And if you decide to try it, you might find out that it works. But it's not signposting that stuff very much.

Jessamyn 36:48 And are there like platforms where you can like talk to other people and be like, this is how this Wow,

Cortex 36:53 well, I mean, there's the whole fucking internet, right? Like there's nothing no, no. Yes, like, like, I mean, in the sense that you could talk to anyone, anywhere about anything like that. There's definitely a ton of discussion in YouTube, like, let's play examples, and so on. But the interesting thing about this series of games actually, is that it actually provides some built in player to player communication in a very constrained way. You know, it's not voice chat, you're not like having random people coming in, and like making fart jokes, over over VoIP or whatever, while you're playing. But you can leave a message on the ground, like wherever you're standing in the game, you can like write a message on the ground that will sometimes appear for other players in their world when they're near that spot. And you can't just write freeform, which is good, because that solves a lot of problems with what happens when you let a bunch of idiots like write any text, they want to do it for the game. Instead, you're doing this kind of magnetic poetry thing, where you have select words and select phrases that you can like, slot together as a sort of Mad Libs thing. So you might say like, you choose the try dot dot dot template, and then for the dot, dot, dot, you replace it with like jump attack, if you're trying to tell someone Oh, you know, if you if you want to get over this enemies, like low attack, if he's a jump attack, you can jump over that and then stab them. And that'll maybe keep you alive longer, you know, might be what you're intending there. But you have to use this very constrained vocabulary. But you can do that. And there is things like hey, use poison damage, you can communicate to other players by leaving a message suggesting that using that very constrained phrasing, and I have found genuinely useful tips from other players. I just had one last night where like, someone was like, okay, like what they want to say is like, stay with me. This is crazy. But you know, this beam you're on where you don't know where to go. And there's just like that lava down there and that terrible death trap. Jump onto the death trap. It'll carry you over the lava, which once you think of the idea, like, oh, actually, yeah, that works. And then you do it's like, you would

Jessamyn 38:47 normally jump down into lava if you were in a safe place or get anywhere near this fucking lava. And that helped me lose yesterday. I'm sorry. Dang it.

Cortex 39:02 Anyway, it's fascinating. I'm really enjoying playing Elden ring. And one of the things it's doing is it's like, it's much more open than some of the previous games have been. It feels like generally like, you kind of have to make your way through this tough kind of hallway and then through this tough hallway, and at the end of the hallway is a boss. And until you beat that boss, you can't move on to the next hallway. And this one is like it's more like, like, Breath of the Wild or, or Skyrim. Like not, not totally, but like in the sense of you can just wander around and say, Oh, I'm just gonna go check this out instead. Because that's tomorrow. It's over there. Yeah, yeah. And it's been it's been really nice. I've really been enjoying it. I've been enjoying it as much as I hoped. And kind of more than I expected. I decided to get excited about it. And I was prepared to like, bounce off after 10 hours and feel like oh, well, but instead I'm really really all in on it.

Jessamyn 39:50 I have stopped playing Battle Royale. Oh, yeah, yeah, like I don't know what happened. Like suddenly it got a whole bunch of new P Pulling it and it got like a lot harder. And it just became having to play Scrabble too quickly. Yeah. I mean, I'll probably try it again and go back to it from time to time. But I had, I had been hoping to play it at the level that I was enjoying it. And then it became different trials. Yeah. Which was for that happens in beta games.

Cortex 40:21 That was kind of my initial like, take on it and why it ended up coming back to this, like, I realized pretty quickly Oh, there's some very good metagaming strategies here that don't sound fun. Like, like, it's not about okay, well, let's let's think on our feet about what words would fit here and how that moves us. It's like, okay, here's how you murder someone nearby using one of these 10 two letter words. Yeah, exactly. That's like, I don't want to speed type fucking vocabulary. I never use like, that's not right.

Jessamyn 40:48 Well, and you know, sometimes that's fun. But yeah, it was just draining. And now I waste my time with some mental instead, which I'm happier for because it doesn't really, it has a 24 hour time limit. Yeah. It doesn't even matter if you do it fast.

Cortex 41:02 It's like it's see, you know, it's not twitch. So like, you don't have to deal with those.

Jessamyn 41:09 Yeah, I'm not good at Twitch. I need to play games on Twitch from my normal Twitch levels.

Cortex 41:15 Yeah. Excuse me. There's other projects stuff to boy, I guess my project that I liked most this this month was I am playing Eldon rings. That's really quite what?

Jessamyn 41:29 Yeah. How did you get on that topic? I

Cortex 41:31 don't know. I mean, it's, it's I've been playing it like I've been playing. It's like all week. So like, my brain is just going

Jessamyn 41:37 back to where it all and then suddenly, yeah, that Elden ring.

Cortex 41:41 I have no fucking idea. I don't know. Anyway. Yeah, a projects, post projects, check out projects. Let's talk about Metafilter proper.

Jessamyn 41:52 Sure. Well, Jim posted a thing, where he told me he posted the thing. And I was like, You did what? And like, it just didn't sound like a thing. That would be interesting. And I was like, okay, honey, whatever, like, you know, and then the thread like got funny little legs. So basically, it's just a website, and there's many websites like it, but it's COVID, standard And it basically just tells you how many days it's been. Since, you know, we started COVID counting, and I don't know what the start date is, but sometime probably the second week of March 2020. And so you click the link, and it's like today is Friday, March 7 730/3.

Cortex 42:41 Yeah, well, probably the start date is just march 1 2020. Right. What was the start date was probably just the first of March because like, you know, then March never ended. So it's like, march 1 was the first Oh, yeah, good point.

Jessamyn 42:57 Probably, it just turned into kind of a thread about people talking about their perception of time, you know, good news and bad news stuff that happened to them, how they're how they're feeling, you know, how they're feeling now, especially like this week in, at least in the United States, where, you know, the CDC made some changes to suggestions, and that's gonna really change a lot of people's kind of risk assessment and profile. And, um, you know, and good things have happened and bad things have happened. I mean, especially like people who have had kids, it's really hard to look at the COVID time as just kind of hunker down and do nothing and be in stasis because their children have been growing and changing and their entire lives have been during this and they've been at risk because little kids haven't been able to get vaccinated and so it turned into a fascinating just chit chatty thread about how people have been feeling over the last time you know, some good some bad but I was very surprised because the link itself I was like, like, you know, I've seen a dozen of them, but the thread turned into something really kind of nice and interesting.

Cortex 44:11 Nice. Would like to give that a read. I don't know if I'll go give it a read because it's like, I have to get in the headspace right now. I want to immerse myself in a whole bunch of thinking about this whole thing, but that I like that it's there I am sorry, I'm still sorting out my tabs.

Jessamyn 44:32 Are you still thinking about that game?

Cortex 44:34 No, no, no, no, I was actually there are several sets of posts were like really it just needs one Touchstone I guess one is this has been like a huge consuming thing for the last while we've had several posts about Russia invading Ukraine. And I'll just link to like the first big one that ended up being like the first of like three so far main posts on that.

Jessamyn 44:57 Yeah. How has that been going? I've been ignored. worrying, you know, Russia Ukraine discussion on Metafilter proper, although I've read the meta talk threads just that if sort of touched on that, yeah. How's that been going from,

Cortex 45:12 that's been busy and messy, like, you know, it's, it's sudden escalation of war. And like, it's just ugly. On the face of it, there's people dealing with the scariness of the disruption. With the sudden, like, pile of violence being done. There's like, Cold War vibes coming through, and, you know, nuclear anxiety, and sort of all that stuff coming out. And also, you know, it's reminding me in a not good way of the mega threads, which has sort of been like a point of reference a couple of times, like, and it's also reminding me in good ways of those because they weren't valueless. Like there is a bunch of information, people are doing an okay job of sort of collating that and sort of framing it a lot of the time. But you also have people just like killing time, between like news and just getting in fights about stuff and dragging it back to Okay, well, this is the, you know, op ed that I think represents the true analysis of the situation. And hey, you know, shall we argue about the Iraq War, and you can imagine, all the places like an ongoing discussion where it's sort of like there's a lull in the initial sort of worry and shock of things. And then people like, well, but this is where I am. So this is where I'm going to say something else to keep sitting where I'm sitting right now. All that dynamic stuff that like was difficult with the huge ongoing political threads. Like you're seeing the same sort of patterns here. And it's not as bad because fucking Fingers crossed. We're not looking at like, you know, as a situation. But yeah, there's a lot of a lot of familiar very tiring vibes involved in it. Because like, what do you do? It's a fucking like,

Jessamyn 46:57 for many people, it is very far away from them. Don't Yeah, I

Cortex 47:01 mean, that's part of it, too. And that's, that makes it trickier to but yeah, not for everybody. And there's no tension there. And that's come up somewhat in people talking about it on the blue and hanging

Jessamyn 47:10 on where you are Europe, for example. And yeah, yeah.

Cortex 47:15 So yeah, I don't know. It's, it's a terrible thing. And so it's a big mess. You know, and it's good that there is a way to sort of let people collate stuff and talk about a metal filter. But also, it's been a lot. It's just been a lot.

Jessamyn 47:30 Oh, god. Yeah, I can imagine. Which is why it's great that there's the rest of metal filter. Like this post by brain. Wait.

Cortex 47:42 For example, it was it was Tuesday,

Jessamyn 47:44 the adorable love story.

Cortex 47:46 It was It was February 2022. Basically

Jessamyn 47:49 you go to Wikipedia.

Cortex 47:51 Look up high fives post about that.

Jessamyn 47:53 What what what

Cortex 47:57 fight or flight made a post about about maybe we had like a audio disconnect their

Jessamyn 48:05 brain Wayne made a poll what?

Cortex 48:08 Okay, you go.

Jessamyn 48:11 Right now,

Cortex 48:12 I think I think maybe we cut off from each other. And so you were talking about a post brainwave make and I was talking about Tuesday and, and then we resynced and we were both interrupting each other subjectively.

Jessamyn 48:24 I was not you going? You know?

Cortex 48:26 No, I'm not saying you were I'm saying I think I think my audio cut out for you. Your audio cut off for me. A car crash there. All right, well, I edit this out.

Jessamyn 48:36 So what I was saying,

Cortex 48:38 please go.

Jessamyn 48:41 Now you're just fucking around.

Cortex 48:42 No, please go.

Jessamyn 48:45 I was just saying it's nice that there's the rest of meta filter as kind of a tonic to some of the more difficult political news that people are grappling with. And brain Wayne made a post the adorable love story behind Wikipedias high five photos. And it's just it's just a longish article. If you go to Wikipedia and look up, high five, you see this couple demonstrating you know, high five download too slow. And you know, it's cute, right? But like basically, this person wanted to figure out who are these people? What's What's the deal? What are they up to today? And if you keep reading, it's just an adorable, happy like cute story. Happy ending and scroll all the way to the end because oh my gosh, brain mine is right. The ending is cute. And I just I love it. I love it. Just a short, short post.

Cortex 49:51 Here's a nice little thing on the internet.

Jessamyn 49:52 Here's a nice little thing on the internet. Thank you to any row Huerta for writing it. Thank you to branwen for telling That's about it.

Cortex 50:03 I was going to mention Tuesday, that's where I was going. Okay, but it was February 22 2022.

Jessamyn 50:13 Oh, yeah. I got an answering machine. It'll talk to you. I cued up that. I don't know what that is. I cued up that tweet at the beginning of January. It's a song by de la Sol. Okay, and, and that's the line in it. And you know, that videos on YouTube. And so I cued it up to be 222 on 222 or two. Nice and that I didn't have to think about it. And then it was a nice joke. But

Cortex 50:42 that's a scheduled tweet. Yes. Thank you. Keep going. Yes, fighter flight made a post about Tuesday, talking about some of the numbers and a few other links and people collected some other stuff in there. And it was just, it was a nice nerdy time.

Jessamyn 50:58 ACB is in here saying Happy gala sol de Yep.

Cortex 51:02 And then there's the meta talk. Tie in of that, which is we ended up giving away user ID tu tu tu tu tu

Jessamyn 51:08 was so funny. Tell me a little bit about that.

Cortex 51:11 It really it just came up in like the team slack chat. I think TAS actually had the original thought, right? I did. Yeah. Oh, wait, you know, this. They never signed up for this and what the heck and so you know, we we did that up and I had fumble clean out a little bit the original account information from the abandoned signup. This was from like 2005 2006, something like that, you know, not that person is probably not coming back around to finish paying PayPal 16 years later. So it's like, okay, it is forfeit. We're giving it away and grifter ended up winning it. We just did a straight up raffle of like, common in the thread, and you are in the raffle and then I'll pick a random person from that list. And it was grifter. And so grifter has it and let's see what did they change it to? They had to think they did. I should have looked this up. Oh, it takes tu tu tu tu tu tu is the is the final using I'll link it because it's not unpronounceable. It's a it's a real AAA that six A's calm.

Jessamyn 52:23 Yes, I know. You mean Sweeney's article. Yep. At at

Cortex 52:35 Joe Morrow popped into sort of acknowledge that the 100k raffle winner account is still just a placeholder name. 100k raffle account wonder.

Jessamyn 52:45 Oh, my God, I forgot about that. Yep. I mean, I remember that raffle. That was fun. Yeah, we should we should re link to that YouTube video if you can find

Cortex 52:59 revelers? Yeah, I'll go find that. Talking about other posts. I'll go find that.

Jessamyn 53:04 Okay. Well, here was a post by my friend bond cliff, aka other gym, which was to a video and normally I'm like, oh, yeah, video, I get the gist. I get the gist. I get the gist. But this one was just kind of an explainer on YouTube about how the automobile highway in system numbering works in the United States. And some of it I knew, some of it, I didn't know. And I'm, you know, the video itself was kind of like weird, cheesy production value, but like the facts in it were good. And of course, you know, they like, oh, the interstates forgotten code, where I'm like, really? Did people forget this, but maybe they didn't know like, maybe your take on maps and highways and whatever is dramatically different if you don't have like a road atlas, which shows you every highway in the United States and your GPS, that's like turn left. Now you're on that road. So me and eyebrows are in this

Cortex 54:12 even even beyond like, like, I think that's a huge thing. Like I think probably a sense of common knowledge of this will really fall off with like the current generation kids these days. But I mean, I didn't I never had like a real good sense that I think part of that is like, you know, I grew up in Oregon and didn't like do a lot of long road trips. So like, we had like, you know, I five runs through town. And you know, there's four or five and there's 84 and that's kind of it but I guess there's 205 Like there's a few highways, but like they are all like things that come through Portland and other than the fact that i knew that i Five like went top to bottom. Like I didn't really have a sense of I think I eventually you know, in you know, young adulthood adulthood ended up having some road trip experiences like Going

Jessamyn 55:01 last till you were a little older, so you didn't do all, like 17 year old road trips,

Cortex 55:06 right? Yeah. So like, you know, I didn't have any context to really think about this system of of highways in Oregon's, like, a biggest state. You know, it's it's a big state that you don't necessarily go many places. And if you're just like living in Portland because like that's the big population center. So yeah, like I, I had only the vaguest sense of it. And I did grow up looking at road atlases, just not with much interest. So yeah, no, it's Yeah. Yeah. Like, I would state, I would state my knowledge being long lines of like, odd as north south, even as, you know, east west, and the numbers get bigger, going in one direction or another sometimes well, and the

Jessamyn 55:52 thing that I didn't know was, depending like your, whatever they're called the ones that go around the, you know, the, oh, my God, what are they called? Like, like the loop, the loop roads that go around a city,

Cortex 56:08 like business loops? Yeah, I guess the opposite of business loops, things that go around instead of into the

Jessamyn 56:15 Yeah, and that basically, there's two kinds of numbers. One kind of number, I don't remember, if it's odd, or even now, without watching it again, tells you that that road is going to come back to the main road. And another kind of number tells you that it's not. And that's really helpful information if you're kind of lost in a city, but that kind of lost in a city thing happens a lot less. You know, if you've got kind of GPS to drag you out of a place, if you get lost in a place.

Cortex 56:49 I remember really thinking about like the rise of GPS as like one of the things that I felt like, weird about, in a sense of like, oh, but this will cause me to lose a skill. You know, and I think I mean, there's some truth to that, like, like, I like very much I can navigate, places that I have a sense of like grid or interconnections like off the, you know, on the fly, but like, I also like, put lots of stuff on my phone and follow the GPS now, and it has the same way. I don't know people's phone numbers, I don't know, people's addresses in the same way a lot of the time anymore. And it is weird how that affects sort of like the general expectation of like the skill set, you're bringing to those kind of like common problems and how that does have a big change on sort of the, the territory as it

Jessamyn 57:42 were, yeah. Well, and I think you and I've talked about this before, too, but like, I'm a person who uses a GPS in my car, and I don't use my phone. So like my GPS doesn't know anything about traffic, it doesn't know what day it is, it doesn't know, it vaguely knows what time it is, you know what I mean? And so it makes different decisions than like if Jim is traveling, and he uses Waze on his phone, which can kind of Route him around traffic or stuff. And, you know, even he and I have, you know, radically different experiences depending on, you know, who's who's driving, just because of what we've decided to use for our navigation. And if I go to Canada, it's even different, because I have to switch GPS is still the one that has the Canadian maps. And I'm fairly close to Canada here in Vermont. But I broke that GPS trying to put a different voice in it. And so it doesn't talk. So I have to kind of keep looking at it to know it'll give me directions, but it won't tell me like turn now kind of thing. Yeah. So yes, I liked that post by bond cliff, even though the video was like, whatever. The post itself was fun, and the discussion was fun.

Cortex 59:02 Here is a post that I liked from Luba as sort of a double Jubilee thing, which double jubilees was this last month? And a lot of people take advantage of that. Yeah, no, I think we had something like, you know, a couple of dozen posts a week that were tagged with that as what it was looking like when fumble ran a quick count. So yeah, it was it was it was good. It was it was nice. And here's to be clear, for anybody wondering, you can have a double Jubilee anytime you want. You can you can just go ahead and say, you know, this was great. And this was several years ago. And let's take another look that's allowed, but it was nice to do like a month of it on purpose really visibly. But this post, this was from Aruba, and it was or Mbah, I don't know about Graham's number and three, three, which I have already talked too much about video games. I'm not going to try and explain math to this episode or it will be here for three hours. But there are a couple of very large numbers and the nature of what it means to be a bear A large number is maybe not super intuitive because you think like, oh, well, because number Yeah, but, but they're numbers that get big at a very fast rate bet faster than any system, you're probably likely to describe using the basic, you know, arithmetic. You can think of even like, you're gonna say, Oh, well, we'll take you know, take something to a power take something to a power to a power Yeah, but let's really go somewhere with it. Let's let's make that look like Tinker Toys is what things are about. And the post is a collection of insignificant part videos from the account, usually called number file and some other folks that do good math explanation. Like, it's still weird math, but like, it's friendly, explanations that are intended for people other than just people with actual doctorates in mathematics. So I really enjoyed looking through it and I, I kind of knew about Graham's number I didn't really know about tree. And it's, it's, it's fun stuff. I liked it.

Jessamyn 1:00:57 Cool. I like it when those posts can like find their people. Speaking of this, and I don't even know if it's yes, it is a double Jubilee. It is one of Rael knees. Just just the best super mega posts. The empty talk show set became a Craig Ferguson. Just puppet menagerie, YouTube song, just fun hangout thing. And there's just a zillion links. It's great. People talk about how they miss Craig Ferguson, and there's just a lot of just a lot of fun, fun stuff in that post.

Cortex 1:01:49 Yeah, no, it's rad. That is some classic Rami encyclopedic posting. It's delightful.

Jessamyn 1:01:56 Yes. Classic. And yes, Miss Craig Ferguson. He just Yeah, so good.

Cortex 1:02:02 Here is a quickie, which is a post by Janelle about a artists name match Liam who makes paper structures, and they're very cool. And I'm friends with Janelle And she she texted me to say oh, by the way, I made a post that you like, and then I got around to look and say, Oh, I do like this. Also, I follow this guy on Instagram already because this sounds great. So hey, man, it's very cool stuff. It's very cool geometric paper art. And you should go put your eyeballs on it.

Jessamyn 1:02:34 I'm clicking right now. While you're by that beautiful

Cortex 1:02:40 Yeah, it's good stuff. It's good stuff.

Jessamyn 1:02:42 Wow. Ah oh how do you even

Cortex 1:02:56 carefully i I'm pretty sure he's got some process documentation out there too. I don't remember where but I feel like I've seen him working on some stuff. But yeah, just like measuring and cutting and gluing and

Jessamyn 1:03:09 gorgeous just gorgeous The thing I love it sort of internet artists statement sucks. No, he looks He says his artist statement is normal. He seems like a nice guy.

Cortex 1:03:23 Grace. That's, that's that's the way it should be. One other medical thing that's like internet site guys thing was the there was a post titles made about a weird situation with someone faking their way through an interview via proxy and Virtual Job Interview stuff. Which by itself, like the article is about, like a bizarre situation. And the thread ended up being like about that. And also another post that was going around from asking manager about someone who, like hired someone and then who showed up was not the person who did the interview to get the job.

Jessamyn 1:04:02 Oh my God. And so both of these were right, the person walks in and you're like,

Cortex 1:04:09 Well, yeah, it's a super fucking weird situation. And it's a it's a strange I hit the end the thread I will say, I enjoyed reading a thread and also had to do some moderation and found some of the frustrating, but it was frustrating in an interesting way because it threw into contrast the way there is sort of like the thread the thread was frustrating, mostly because it kept sort of collapsing into a dichotomy that's not really there of either you are supportive of companies being controlling employers who have too much you know, access and power over workers, or you're in favor of being a duplicitous liar who creates bad situations for your co workers by unjustly sneaking your way into a garage blah blah, blah or job or whatever. Which are two like things that exist.

Jessamyn 1:04:56 Reality. Black and white binary there. Yeah,

Cortex 1:04:59 but like The fact that people have very strong feelings about both sides, as always, to the point where they creep in is sort of an interesting thing. And the situation itself here is abstract enough that like, on the one hand, that means people can have kinda dumb arguments because it is abstract and they can make up whatever they want to be and people actually situation and then yeah, but but there's still also a lot of interesting thoughts there. So I don't know, it was a slightly messy, not a huge mess, but also an interesting discussion and interesting to see like, what it brought out in terms of people's feelings about this stuff, but also some interesting stories about weird things that happen to people. So it was it was a whole thing. Just sort of it was there. That happened.

Jessamyn 1:05:35 All right, interesting. I learned a thing. And then this is my post from Valentine's Day, I guess. This was when I got home, I went and watch the Super Bowl at my sister's place. And then I drove home, but I driven to my sister's the day before. And it turns out, I'm out of practice for traveling, or not being home or whatever. So by the time I got home, I was just like, ah, like, didn't feel good, tired, just felt all. But Kate had told me my sister about this funny New England D tradition where the Boston post, which was a newspaper that used to exist, went to 700 towns in Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New Hampshire and Maine, and gave them a gold headed ebony cane engraved with the name of the town. And the request that it be presented with the compliments of the paper to the oldest male citizen in the town. And then at his death, handed down to the next oldest citizen, and like that's in and of itself, kind of a funky, interesting story. This was a 1909 and then the funkiest interesting part of it most interesting part of it is, in many towns, this is still going on. Like, they still give the cane, it's been changed and expanded to be the oldest person of any gender. And in some cases, the cane itself like lives in the town hall, but they keep track of who the oldest person in town is. And, you know, they give them a little, a little sort of notable thing. And I had never heard of this, or if I had, I'd forgotten about it. And so it was just a little bit of fun, New England trivia. And then I found that there was a book written about this whole thing. So I made the post based on this like slightly out of date website that decided they were going to track down, which towns were still doing it, but then the website itself is kind of out of date. So that's a little aggravating. But then there's this book. And you know, I can't get it, but Jim could interlibrary loan it from a library in his network, and he's coming up with it tomorrow, and I'm gonna get to read it.

Cortex 1:07:51 Nice. That's excellent. Like just a weird,

Jessamyn 1:07:55 weird tradition. There's a whole bunch of great photographs of these funky canes. Yeah, and I just thought it was so cool.

Cortex 1:08:03 That's kind of great. Also kind of morbid, like, receiving, receiving the death cane. But probably, yeah, probably, you've made, like, more progress than I have in coping with the inevitability of death. Once Once you're the oldest person in town, but

Jessamyn 1:08:22 yeah, and I mean, I think some of it is to, like in New England towns, it used to be, you know, the oldest timers in town often had like, a lot of local knowledge. Everybody knew them. They knew everyone. Like, like, there was a certain amount of gravitas associated with that. Yeah, that wasn't necessarily age based, but it's because age and no one all the stuff went hand in hand. I think that's less true. Now it is, um, as people, you know, they retire places, they move in with their kids, they do, like they do a bunch of different stuff. That might mean they haven't lived in the town that whole time. But in many cases, especially for the, you know, nonagenarians of this right now. You know, a lot of them have been in those towns for a long time. Yeah.

Cortex 1:09:16 Like, like, there's a sense of like, you know, elder as a, you know, sort of cultural touchstone beyond just like being old.

Jessamyn 1:09:24 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, that was spawned Cliff's first statement in the thread. Like, that seems kind of morbid. No, no argument. It's a little morbid.

Cortex 1:09:37 Yep. I will mention in passing we've had several more free threads. Probably four more since we last talked. Yeah. And those have been fun on LinkedIn most recent one, but yeah, it's not a whole lot to say about them other than like they're there and it's a nice place. So

Jessamyn 1:09:51 yeah, those are a good time. I like bought from you on Twitter. I think more often, just as I've been not on metal filter As much

Cortex 1:10:00 yeah just try and tweet about it every once in a while. Since there might be people who are sort of casually monitoring Twitter and a lurky way so yeah. But yeah, that's that's it for me for metadata you want to talk about some some asked me.

Jessamyn 1:10:13 Yeah, the most recent asked me. I have been paying attention to which is fairly apropos because it was one degree Fahrenheit last night. Is this one by Jumbo was up? How cold? Could I comfortably keep my house if I dress real warmly? And they live in the United States normally heat the house to between 68 and 70 Fahrenheit, wearing jeans and a T shirt? How cold could I keep the house if I bundled up, which is hilarious to me, of course, because I bundle up in my house like, like, depending where you're from bundling up in your house in the winter may be like a super normative thing. Or it may be absolutely not normative, depending how you feel about it. And I think also people love to talk about their kind of winter schemes. And so it is a long chatty thread that Jennifer was up literally just during this podcast, followed up on, you know, kind of explaining why they were asking and what they cared about, and bla bla bla bla bla. But yeah, a lot of people just kind of talk about what their what their plans are what is wakes winter, you know, in the colder, sort of northern hemisphere more manageable. And so I enjoyed reading along with that thread. And you know, I got to talk about mattress pad warmers, which, yes, funny me, I talked about it every opportunity. But she asked some question about something that would keep her warm and people were like, Notch pad warmer. And she's they were like, Briar, kind of. I don't want mattress bad warmer. It's like, well, but that is the answer. You know, it's kind of one of those. Yeah, tell me tell me the answer, but not this answer that I don't want. So oh, well,

Cortex 1:12:11 I want to I want to learn to swim cannot get wet, I think was your formulation many years ago.

Jessamyn 1:12:19 Did I say that? Yeah.

Cortex 1:12:21 I don't even remember that. It was something like you know, I mean, and it's like it like it's not precisely that. It's like you don't know, sometimes you want to say okay, there is an obvious answer. I'm not interested in that one I'm looking for. I get it. I've been there, you're also gonna hear that obvious answer, because we were like, Yeah, but Right. But maybe

Jessamyn 1:12:37 you should think more about getting over your objection to x instead of Yeah. And then along the same lines of that question was this one by Guna? Some, basically trying to figure out how to monitor temperature in humidity and multiple places in their house over time, partly is just kind of a fun, how do you do this exercise? And partly because they just want to be able to sort of track that. And there's a bunch of different ways of thinking about the stuff. Yeah, I mean, as you know, I am a nut about figuring out all the where, where it's humid in my house and what the humidity is and running different humidifiers on and off all the time. And so I read with interest the ways you could attack this problem.

Cortex 1:13:24 Yeah, it'd be interesting to sort of like look through this because like, it's funny, the thing I immediately think of is a some some DIY thing with like, temperature sensors and Raspberry Pi, which they mentioned a pie in the in the question. But the other thing I think of is like I've mefite friend who like, has worked doing sort of installation and configuration stuff for like things in very rich people's houses. And it seems like the answer there is to spend $20,000 on a system that will then fail to work anyway. So you know, you can do that too, if you want to just, you know, take that route. Yeah, that's interesting.

Jessamyn 1:14:05 Yeah. I very much I very much liked reading along with it.

Cortex 1:14:10 I am I'm intrigued and interested in this question that I've been meaning to get back and read through from Rue about preserving paper for 10,000 years, basically. I mean, that's the pitch is like, I want to like preserve a few sheets of paper for an eon. How can I do that? You know, and materials and whatnot, which is an interesting question. So oh, so yeah.

Jessamyn 1:14:38 Oh, my gosh, that's fascinating. They wind up getting I mean,

Cortex 1:14:45 I mean, I don't think it's something like

Jessamyn 1:14:50 you know, clay tablet, but didn't they say paper? Does it not have to be paper?

Cortex 1:14:56 Well, I mean, that's the thing, right? Like, you know, it's sort of a hypothetical question. So I think it's more like is this doable in this way? But like other technologies, okay, as long as it's like cheap, I think like cheap and automatable is the concept. So like, it would be a lot of like caches of this stuff. So like doing it one time, and spending a million dollars creating an extremely durable guaranteed to last for 10 years. 10,000 years option doesn't really answer the brief because you can't do that like a whole bunch of times. Yeah. So trying to find that Pareto optimal 10,000 year preservation solution, which, you know, it's like, immediately makes me think of like the whole radiation warning. Yes, Sandia Labs report with you know, nothing of value here. Culture, etc. Yeah. Yeah, anyway, I thought that was interesting. I, that's an interesting question.

Jessamyn 1:15:57 And it doesn't have to be on the moon will be on this planet. Right. Right. Right, under $100. To produce. So yeah, that's an interesting kind of an art project. I love it. I love it. All right. Speaking of old timers, or I keep clicking the thing, forget, it doesn't matter. This post took me back, Wesley AC, remind me what the defunct hosted blogging platforms

Cortex 1:16:32 were. Oh, Jesus. So

Jessamyn 1:16:35 blogging, not social media, not general web hosting. But obviously, there's some overlap there. But nobody can join anymore. And they don't host what they used to have. So it doesn't count or accounts, maybe if they were sold, but not if they still exist. And then they list a whole bunch that I've never heard of, probably because they're in the UK. But like, all of these have almost all of them have like ES and IO and am suffixes. And like the ones that I remember, were You know what I mean? So yeah, J Edwards is like Edit this Yeah, diary land. Oh, but I guess diary lens still exists. Diary X. I thought gray matter was there but I think gray matter was just software and it wasn't hosting. But yeah, get some of the old timers in a in a, you know, in a little thread talking about? Yeah, that's good.

Cortex 1:17:45 Yeah, that's, that's, that's some good old school bait. Yeah,

Jessamyn 1:17:49 yes, exactly.

Cortex 1:17:54 I also liked this question from Zumba door, which they had, I think mentioned in passing

Jessamyn 1:17:59 seminar was also in that how do I stay warm thread with good advice?

Cortex 1:18:04 Well, does it involve hitting someone with a socket? Hockey? Hockey ball? Hello, people. Hello? Oh,

Jessamyn 1:18:14 no thread. Sorry. I was like, Josh. That's lateral.

Cortex 1:18:19 Yeah, well, I this is what I was queuing up. And, yes. Sundar asked a question about a writing project. Basically, a character needs to potentially kill someone with a weird object Well, you know, it took me four seconds but I guess right, like field hockey probably right.

Jessamyn 1:18:38 I guess so. Yeah. Like, like, I

Cortex 1:18:39 guess that's the thing. And that's that's a ball but like, get through it. Yeah. Hockey puck is such a fixed phrase in my head. Like, what the fuck is a hockey ball? Right. It's probably a ball that you use when you're playing hockey with a ball.

Jessamyn 1:18:49 Yeah, field hockey ball. The clarify later in the thread. Yeah. Anyway, it's

Cortex 1:18:53 got it's got a few dozen suggestions. And this is the fun goofy lateral thinking, brainstorming. And then yes, so I've enjoyed that as well.

Jessamyn 1:19:04 Oh, man, I'm reading Aramex like really long, complicated thread. Yes. Ah, I liked the nuance of ish but diddles question about whether you can show an Iowa cow at the Illinois State Fair.

Cortex 1:19:25 Where you can show it, but can you make it look?

Jessamyn 1:19:29 You can't make it. Yes.

Cortex 1:19:32 But please go on.

Jessamyn 1:19:33 You know, it's tricky, right. Like, maybe like, are the state fairs just for people from the state? Yes or no. And it looks like you know, there are requirements for out of state exhibitors, but that people actually could do it. And in many cases, depending on where you live in Iowa, you might be closer to the Illinois State Fair than the Iowa State Fair. I'm trying to think now does New Hampshire have a state fair? I might be close to the New Hampshire state fair than the Vermont State Fair. I know what

Cortex 1:20:07 it feels like every state probably has some sort of state fair. Right. But what's the state is gonna be like, you know, not us. Fuck you. We don't do a state fair. I guess, I guess. I mean, does Massachusetts do a Commonwealth?

Jessamyn 1:20:19 They do a thing called the Big E? Yeah. They do a thing called the Big E, which is usually if I recall correctly, like in Western Massachusetts, and it's a big ag fair. I've been a couple times. It's fun. Vermont has, you know, Vermont State Fair, which is small chill, and I believe has a demolition derby. I'm not sure if it still has a demolition derby. Yeah, that I don't know about New Hampshire like I would think I would know, because I'm close to New Hampshire, but I don't know. So I Google it while you talk about something else?

Cortex 1:20:52 Oh, but I'm at a post Oh, no. Oh, well. Well, I can tell you about the time that I like got disqualified from winning an Art Prize at the Multnomah County Fair, Oregon State Fair, I can't remember what I me and my sister both entered some art. And we both got honorable mentions, because we were disqualified from actually placing, because our school did not have a PTA membership, which it was some bullshit. Let me tell you. It was an absolute horseshit.

Jessamyn 1:21:23 Oh my god, that would drive me crazy. So yes, New Hampshire has straight fit at State Fair. It's in straight them New Hampshire, which I guess is like way down.

Cortex 1:21:33 Jason strengthen. Close. And that wasn't that wasn't even like a joke. Exactly. That was just I heard a sound. Yeah, please, please

Jessamyn 1:21:41 continue. But it's like kind of close to the water. So not super close to me, nor very easy to get to. But yeah, good to know. Oh, speaking of New Hampshire, Jim met his biological mother. This past month. Oh, nice. Yeah, that's and it went

Cortex 1:21:57 really well. And the fact that you're mentioning it means it was not like a terrible thing.

Jessamyn 1:22:02 No, it was actually I mean, I think both like, I think she was kind of nervous. And she's a little bit like not like Jim's just kind of like yeah, great, whatever. I'm sure it'll be fine. And she was just like we're well are. And also, you know, there's been weather so I was going to meet them too. But like, then the dates that we had got canceled because of snow. And so it was like the third canceled, blah. And, yeah, he got to go up there in New Hampshire and meet them. And it was just a really good time. And I'm just so happy for him. Thanks. That's great. Yeah, it is great. So the only other two that I have are kind of a classic asked me from Juby. Basically, like, look, I want a meal prep book, or a plan that will minimize the amount of time I have to spend preparing food, I just want to cook all my food at once. By a chicken, use it for multiple meals, just point me in the direction of how to do this. Thank you. And it turns out, there's like a subreddit for it. There's a lot of people who talk about like Sunday meal prep as a routine instapot communities want them once a month meals, you know, family meal planners, one that's called made it ate it loved But it's nice, because I think, you know, different people struggle with preparing food for you know, different reasons. And you know, meal kits work for some people, and they don't for others, I was just talking to my sister about this, because she's thinking about going with one those like food delivery boxes. And I'm like, well, that's great. But ah, there's a lot of trash. And she's like, I have curbside pickup. Like, who cares? Trash isn't real. And you know, we have slightly different approaches to the world of trash. And for me, it made it totally untenable. And for her, like the other hurdles to having, like, good food more often mattered. So you know, it's interesting to talk about and Dooby it looks like is happy kind of doing the cooking, but they want to really do cooking kind of once.

Cortex 1:24:12 Yeah, they want to do batch cooking just like yeah, dude in volume. Yeah.

Jessamyn 1:24:18 Which to be fair, I often do. But I also don't mind eating the same damn thing every day, which for a lot of people is a non starter, and I get it.

Cortex 1:24:26 So yeah, we tend to push a little bit more for variety. And that makes it harder to just like, make a big pile of something.

Jessamyn 1:24:32 Yeah. And I think that's true for a lot of people. And you know, I don't entertain like there's a lot of things that make it oh my gosh, so easy. But, yeah, that was good. And then Brandon blusher asked a question about helping somebody who's dealing with chronic fatigue. Like, hey, family member has chronic fatigue or looking for help. If you have it or you've helped people with it, what It works. And there's a whole bunch of different people talking about sort of ways to ways to think this through. There's partners of people with chronic fatigue jostle meow, who's been a longtime neophyte who deals with? And he was me.

Cortex 1:25:21 I don't remember. All right. Well, I don't I don't remember if I don't? If I didn't know.

Jessamyn 1:25:26 Yeah, but similar, similar thing. And it has a nice list of kind of, you know, the supplements that she takes and kind of what helps for that. There's some guides and you know, and the kind of non almost non just symptom things that can really help with morale that can help with around the house that can help with Oh, my algebra and stuff, and Cephalo? Maya?

Cortex 1:25:51 Yes, it's just going into the okay.

Jessamyn 1:25:55 But yeah, it's just a really good supportive thread with a lot of people with deep knowledge of how to deal and, and it's good. It's just, it's, it's good that there's a lot of people who have a lot of knowledge that can help. And I feel like that's sort of AskMe Metafilter at its best when you're doing, you know, sort of knowledge, knowledge share among people who really know a thing about a topic and can help somebody who's newer to it, kind of get their get their feet under them. Quickly.

Cortex 1:26:27 Yeah, there's, there's a lot of room from sort of experiential passage of knowledge there and that sort of thing, compared to like, you know, telling me the one clear answer to this puzzle that I cannot solve, right, or a clear answer, great, but if it's like dealing with, yeah,

Jessamyn 1:26:41 are going to read medical websites, which is difficult. Or going to read support group websites, which depending on the support group can be difficult, like a lot of support groups are very, they gravitate towards people with a certain outlook. And so maybe you've got a support group that's very upbeat, maybe you've got a support group that's for venting, maybe you've got a support group, that's for whatever. But if you land with the wrong support group, it's like landing with the wrong AAA meeting. You're like, Oh, God, AAA is not for me. Everybody smokes and drinks coffee all the time. And they're all 102 years old, or whatever. And you're like, Well, maybe try another group. Like that. That's, that doesn't have anything to do with AAA as much as it has to do with that group. But you don't know that if you're just getting started. And so yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Cortex 1:27:31 Anything else you want to hit on? Asked me?

Jessamyn 1:27:33 Just just this one, which was me being a little bit of a pill, but basically, Alex 1965, because the Olympics wrapped up and I believe Paralympics are going on right now. I should really watch some of them. But Alex basically was like, Why do some people hate athlete profiles? Like, hey, I'm not really a sports fan. But I watched the Olympics. I really enjoy the profiles. And then I meet people who tell me they hate them. I don't get it. And I had read these. I had read this thread early on, and was like, I hate them. And yeah, I hate Yeah, I hate them. I don't like them. I like sports. I don't like hearing about people and their obstacles they overcome in order to get good at sports. I just want to watch the sports.

Cortex 1:28:31 Yeah, like, I don't hate them. But I also don't care about them. And I'm annoyed that they are stuck in the way I mean, this is take it into somewhat absurd direction. This is the problem that I have with like American Ninja Warrior, which, like

Jessamyn 1:28:48 you get much of the howl of the person. Yeah, like I don't mean, which is a problem.

Cortex 1:28:56 Well, yeah, but I just yeah, like it was, it's interesting. I watched like the very early bits of it recently, for the first time I hadn't watched any of it before I started at the beginning. And at the beginning, it was weird, Goofy, scrappy, strange thing and it had its problems but it was also like a bunch of people showed up in LA to stand around for 10 hours to try and do this thing. Let's see what happened and then like a few seasons in they they picked up like money and steam and it's like, now we're going to do a bla bla bla bla bla the whole fucking schmear and this is this is tanked Yeah. Run from like slightly legitimate Jackass who like yes, this is now sports with inspo porn, but without as much even of the actual like sports pardon? Yeah, but yeah, that's it. It's just like it's it's reality TV time filler stuff outside of the reality TV context, but it's the same problem as with reality TV is like, there is the thing that you want to watch and then there is not enough of that to fill the time that they have scheduled. And so we're gonna pat it out or they don't Think that's going to draw people in enough. So we've got to build a narrative. So we're going to do Yeah, it's like, I'm not antipathetic, towards people having stories, but like I don't need to hear about everyone's unrelated life hardship to understand that I'm seeing them well.

Jessamyn 1:30:15 I find hardship stuff really difficult to deal with you know what I mean? Especially if it's clothing you know designed to tug on your heartstrings like I don't want my heartstrings tug. That's why I watch sports. Yeah, if I wanted my heartstrings touched, watching Hallmark, you know, Hallmark movies. Yeah, I don't want that. So yeah, it's mixing the streams but different people in the thread have different impression Some don't hate them some really hate them more than me some hate me because I was slightly in delicate and how I talked about not liking them and didn't know occasionally you say things on this blue website that you regret. So are the green website? Ah, yes. Could have been more politic wasn't more politic. Still hate them could have talked about them differently. Sure. You anything else?

Cortex 1:31:12 That's That's it there. I can call out a few nice metal talk things real quick. But we've already had like an hour and a half. So I should not dig in on anything.

Jessamyn 1:31:22 I promise not to dig in. Okay,

Cortex 1:31:24 there's new newsletter out.

Jessamyn 1:31:27 I noticed Pronoiac posted this. What

Cortex 1:31:33 Yes. Pronoiac has been helping out with the sort of administrative side of the newsletter just as a volunteer thing. So he's been, you know, helping, he helped. He worked with Taz to get sort of his initial thing sorted out. And more recently, he has been working on stuff and he's been working with her. And then yeah, he's sort of like the last mile, like launch tech person on it, which is very useful, so very much appreciate it. And yeah, I've been printing it's been doing other metal filter stuff in like a vague volunteer capacity for a while like, you know, the wiki manages the wiki.

Jessamyn 1:32:08 Yeah, exactly. I just wasn't sure what What is relationship with this was so that was

Cortex 1:32:13 just popping up. Right? There's a nice thread about what it's about giving his 150,000 favorite.

Jessamyn 1:32:22 I love that.

Cortex 1:32:24 You know what, oh, when this fed? I mentioned the the tu tu, tu tu tu giveaway thread already. But there was also this nice little thing about an old long bet from Matt, how he

Jessamyn 1:32:36 that was funny. I remember when that happened. And we were all like, oh my god, we're never going to get that old.

Cortex 1:32:45 It's weird is where the Oh, it's, it's now now is the thing when that long now, thing happened a long time ago. But it was basically, you know, a bet 11 years ago about whether or not the URL for the bet would still work right? 11 years later. And it does although someone did make a point that like, okay, but at the time was HTTP and now it has to be HTTPS so does you know, but yes, it fucking Shut up.

Jessamyn 1:33:11 Yeah, I thought that was funny.

Cortex 1:33:14 Um, but that was a wrap up for the Valentine's card exchange. That was a lot of fun. I sent out a bunch of lineup pizza hearts and got a bunch of nice various Valentine's from other people.

Jessamyn 1:33:29 Oh, that's cool. And I've been ramping up my my postal mail again this month because I sent out some Valentine's and some stuff last month and I enjoyed it. And I'm like, Oh, I'm gonna actually write some letters now. Get out like write a letter with my with my paws. Yeah, but it's been fun and you know, hopefully people like to get them hopefully they can read my handwriting. I believe I am now completely out of touch with how legible my handwriting. I feel

Cortex 1:33:58 like I have gotten like the occasional postcard or something for you. I feel like your handwriting was perfectly legible.

Jessamyn 1:34:05 That's the way I feel but I worry. But yeah, I think people like handwritten letters so I think trying to write some more

Cortex 1:34:12 it's the only handwriting I really have a problem was like really dedicated to the bid script like people who really learned cursive and fuck you you're going to read it and never I never learned write cursive. Never really going to read it. Well. I respect sort of like the historical art of cursive but just getting into calligraphy and block print the rest of time Come on. Yeah, well, I'm always I've just offended like someone very bad.

Jessamyn 1:34:36 I'm a printer, usually on postcards. And if I write letters, I'm usually just a regular print writer. But my my, some of my letters connect a little and some of them seem to like be the impression of the letter, but not really the letter

Cortex 1:34:51 is from context. It like I feel like there's a lot of error correction the human brain can do like printing The that that goes away a lot on the cursive if you're not specifically versed in some of the elaborate ligature implications of cursive is the thing that I struggle with. But anyway, yes, there's there's other posters. There's some fun posters, some theories posts, there's a couple posts about Ukraine related stuff.

Jessamyn 1:35:20 Yeah, waste ways to donate and making sure me flights in affected areas are doing okay.

Cortex 1:35:26 Yeah, so go take a look. But I am Horus and it's been an hour and a half. We should just like end the podcast, I think is what we're gonna do. Yeah, that

Jessamyn 1:35:32 sounds okay. Let's do it.

Cortex 1:35:33 We're gonna end it, you'll make. Alright, that's the podcast. Thanks so much for talking to me. Jessamyn. Thanks

Jessamyn 1:35:38 for talking to me, Josh.

Cortex 1:35:40 All right. I'll talk to you again in a month for another podcast or show. Yeah.

Jessamyn 1:35:44 All right.

Cortex 1:35:45 That is the end