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A transcript for Episode 176: Low-Key Podcast (2021-09-02).

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Cortex 0:00 I can't find the podcast theme song files.

Jessamyn 0:06 Yeah, where are they? Hello Loki podcast.

Cortex 0:15 We're both this is this is episode 176 The hey look, we showed up after Metafilter monthly podcast. It's not that I don't want to be here. It's just that I don't want to do anything right now

Jessamyn 0:30 be anywhere.

Cortex 0:31 Yeah, of the things I could force myself to do despite having like a, like existential crisis. Talking to you on the podcast is one of the nice.

Jessamyn 0:40 Well that's sort of how I feel. You know, we saved you from the 30 Minute pre roll of trying to make all our technology work. I'm never gonna get that and keep your router. Yeah, I did do my DNS Hokey Pokey flush the DNS cache, reboot the router, reboot the range extender. And this is only because my laptop is the only thing that will work with our podcast recording webpage. And then I'm gonna go work at the public library this evening, which I'm actually looking forward to, but you know, it's time. And I, and then going back to Massachusetts to continue packing up the Magic Castle, which Oh, my God, Josh. Yeah. Oh, my God. You never really realized like, just how messed up your parents were until after you're emptying closets you've never looked in. Man. Yeah, seriously. Like,

Cortex 1:38 I think I would be less surprised if I found myself clearing out my parents stuff right now. But

Jessamyn 1:44 do your parents live in the house that you grew up in?

Cortex 1:48 Yes. Okay.

Jessamyn 1:51 I'm just this like, just nerdy question for me.

Cortex 1:53 Yeah. Ya know, the simple answer is yes. The complicated answer just happens to involve two different houses that are both business sites for the same preschool, which is not unnecessary detail. So, yes, yes. Yeah. Well, I clearly transition over the last 20 years of my life from definitely thinking I was going to be like, fighting my siblings over the old house to Nope, I have my own mortgage. And it's the same kind of house kind of so even if it was like, oh, but that's, yeah, no, no,

Jessamyn 2:29 what kind of house is the one you live in? Yeah,

Cortex 2:31 like like, early 1900s craftsman style home in Portland. And there are some similar architectural features in the house. Angeline own to the one I grew up in. So

Jessamyn 2:45 yeah, I am not involved. We're late on a lot of this because my sibling needed to take a little time and make a decision about whether she wanted to move from her cute smart bungalow, that she lives in 10 miles up the road to the sprawling farmhouse of never ending maintenance. The road and I don't know why it wasn't just a slam dunk decision. But it took her a while and whatever it takes how long it takes. And then COVID

Cortex 3:12 asked you, yeah,

Jessamyn 3:14 for what, what? Last time or? Yeah,

Cortex 3:18 I guess what, we'll assume that all went well. All right. If there's a weird noise in the podcast, congratulations. You guys could experience podcasting at its rawest.

Jessamyn 3:28 Yes. And now we're just you know, getting rid of stuff, keeping a couple things, finding people to take our boxes, finding people to take the giant motor that is in the basement under the stairs for no reason. That kind of thing.

Cortex 3:46 Excellent. Yeah. I mean, I mean, excellent, terrible. Like, whatever everybody's progress on it is what

Jessamyn 3:52 it is. I'm definitely not moping. I'm trying to turn it into kind of a weird those wacky West girls story, but yeah, takes a lot of energy. So yeah, this is my slightly subdued Jessamine today, because I just got back here. You know, a day and a half ago, and I'm going back again, tomorrow. Also,

Cortex 4:09 my birthday is Sunday. We will happy impending birthday.

Jessamyn 4:12 Thank you. And pending is how I feel about it. Not because I don't like birthdays. I always do but just like it's never a good time in September. That's the whole point of the Virgo month of leisure.

Cortex 4:25 Happy, happy looming. Ominous cloud of birthday happy.

Jessamyn 4:31 I think it'd be great. I've already scheduled my birthday tweet because I'm not going to be anywhere near a computer most of the day, which

Cortex 4:38 you know, I've never tweeted. I've never I've never tweeted Yes, I've never in my life. I mean, I kind of know that it's possible. But

Jessamyn 4:46 oh yeah, I just do it with TweetDeck. And it's great. Well, because you know, one of the things I've started to do in the last maybe two months is like a Friday afternoon reminder. Like, hey, don't empty your inbox at the expense of someone else. Since inbox because we've all been there, right, like, well, you and I particularly been there, where you get some kind of Friday afternoon, I've just changed some shit, or whatever. And you're like, but my weekend was supposed to start. And now I have to deal with this. And yeah, you know, some of that is putting boundaries around your own time. But, you know, in many cases, you're in a work situation where you can't make those decisions, right? You know that your boss is like, I need this from you on Monday. And like, what are you going to do do it Friday night, or like worry about it all weekend. And so I send out a Friday afternoon announcement, just little one on Twitter. But sometimes I'm busy on Friday, not sending out announcements. And so I just scheduled them in advance. And that's what you can do with your email to you need to clean your inbox on Friday. You can do that. And then just have somebody else get that email on Monday, when they're actually paid to listen to you. Yeah, yeah. So I'm doing one for my birthday too, just to ask people to send me pictures. You know, Twitter's fun when people are sharing fun pictures. Yeah. And I found a picture of dumb old me with my grandmother. And, you know, when I was just born, and it was cute, so nice. I'll ask for other cute pictures. Sorry, what'd you say?

Cortex 6:20 I don't even remember.

Jessamyn 6:23 It's gonna be like that. I can't do that.

Cortex 6:25 Things are gonna flit around like, like a moth on a lamp is how my brain is gonna be today's okay. For armed Yep. And four arms is

Jessamyn 6:38 I was hoping.

Cortex 6:42 Okay, it's something like Alexander the Great was a great general. Great generals are forewarned. Forewarned is forearmed. Four is an even number of arms. But four is an odd number of arms. To have, therefore, Alex have a great head, both an even and an odd number of arms. That's pretty good, Josh. I think I learned that in terms of like he has, you know, the only number that is both odd and even is infinity therefore he has an infinite number of arms, but I don't really I'm not comfortable with that. Little bit of logic there. I think that may have been so that sounds

Jessamyn 7:19 confusing. I like we're wrapped up actually it was, you know, concise. I could follow the whole thing is a little bit mathy but not to math. Yeah,

Cortex 7:26 I may I may have gotten that out of a Reader's Digest. Have we talked about me reading readers digests while my mom was doing like Office house cleaning stuff,

Jessamyn 7:36 probably because I think I talked to you about reading Reader's Digest like at my grandma's and then later my mom's and it was like, what I thought jokes were like you graduate from jokes, to like, Reader's Digest jokes, mature

Cortex 7:49 intellectual jokes. Yeah. Especially the ones about military life. That was always the dregs. Like if I ran out of like, the non topical funny ones sounds like okay, well, I'll read the ones about education, I guess. And okay, well, I guess I'll read the ones about the military. And, you know, they just, yeah,

Jessamyn 8:11 I probably know more about military from Reader's Digest jokes and Beetle Bailey than from any actual people that lived and worked in the military. I have more friends in the military now than I did. You know, my whole growing up, I think.

Cortex 8:27 Humor in uniform. That's the yes, that's the

Jessamyn 8:30 and I liked drama in real life, which was like, sometimes very exciting, but sometimes say clickbait when you couldn't click right sometimes, like child abuse, like I can still remember like, horrible stories that I read, you know, as a

Cortex 8:44 very should really modernize that format as like, am I the asshole just like, hey,

Jessamyn 8:49 right? Well, I mean, that's how you get engagement, right? Yeah, am I the asshole are very engaging, although I mostly only hear about mid assholes. When everybody uniformly agrees,

Cortex 9:03 what kind of web content do you think Reader's Digest has I'm gonna go look,

Jessamyn 9:07 because our Right. Yeah.

Cortex 9:11 I don't think I've ever encountered like, yeah, it just looks like exactly what you would expect it to look like. I guess it looks like the click baby stuff that was officially doing before the web. It's

Jessamyn 9:23 your fault, right? It's handy based on your zodiac sign.

Cortex 9:27 How to make fake blood for Halloween. Toblerone. Is their birthday, Josh. April late April.

Jessamyn 9:35 What does that mean? Your horoscope is

Cortex 9:38 a Taurus

Jessamyn 9:40 Godiva chocolates sensual and rich Josh. I mean, I think I think a lot of you but when I enlisted, my

Cortex 9:50 sensual enrich, that's my top

Jessamyn 9:53 tips. It's not either of those. But then again minor, refined and perfect. And yeah, perfectionist, but that's not perfect as far

Cortex 10:05 as I'm insensate and struggling under capitalism. There I am, I'm okay, so they've got a joke section on Reader's Digest, but it doesn't have the classic things. You can you can filter by different types of jokes. So you could filter for just like Christmas or quotes or puns,

Jessamyn 10:26 or family, you tell me a librarian joke or

Cortex 10:29 librarian is not one of the options. It's like It's like It's like 15 categories, but none of them are college or military. I feel like something fundamentally has changed about the positioning of this web content versus old school Reader's Digest. That's, it's so weird.

Jessamyn 10:46 Hey, and what I did not know is that they also publish birds and blooms, which is kind of a goofy gardening and birdwatching magazine that I actually kind of like. What are the lines on a solo cup for perspective run out of time?

Cortex 11:02 Yeah, we should probably talk. But Reader's Digest does have listicles made of other people's tweets. So really, it has, in fact, wholly embraced modernity in its mediocre humor content and such.

Jessamyn 11:18 It's like middlebrow, right? I'm not even sure it's mediocre.

Cortex 11:24 I don't know. I guess, like, like I it's aesthetically mediocre by definition, like the writing is not necessarily bad. But it's also like very safe. Very metal. Yeah. Anyway. metal filter. There was a job posted in August. A few days ago. In fact, parman parman is looking for a writing editor. So, yeah, it's a work anywhere thing sounds like. So if that's maybe then maybe that's you. All right. That's the jobs report.

Jessamyn 12:03 That was kind of short. Yeah. Yeah. And it's headed under what marketing advertising PR need an editor. Constructive support? So it's literally edit. Like, yeah, at funny

Cortex 12:23 And, yeah, yes. We should just make those vocal vocal. What's the fry? Let's just make vocal fry sounds for the next hour. I'm sorry, buddy. This is a bug as you're getting this

Jessamyn 12:42 December Virgo month of leisure podcast.

Cortex 12:44 Yes. It's been it's been cold, sometimes a poorly recently, which I really appreciate. I don't have anything else to say about that. Other than I really appreciate that.

Jessamyn 12:51 Well, we just got the remnants of Hurricane Ida in Massachusetts. And up here, we have gotten just this weird dynamite weather and it's been slightly hot in Vermont, which has been really weird. Also, I'm glad TJ and our other New Orleans mefites are doing okay, sounded. Desi. And it sounded like, you know, not out of the woods yet. But on the upswing, hopefully. Yeah.

Cortex 13:18 Yeah, TJ was doing a good job of tweeting about stuff considering also being in a hurricane. But also I think he may have this sense of awareness is like, well, if I just stopped tweeting, everyone's gonna freak out. So

Jessamyn 13:30 I think that's, you know, I think that's his coping mechanism a little bit, because then people would be like, Hey, we're thinking about you and you know, how are you doing and hugs from here and blah?

Cortex 13:43 Yeah. Let's discuss projects of which there were a few this last month.

Jessamyn 13:50 Cool. I really liked oops, click hold on.

Cortex 13:57 Clicking you liked it so much. You destroyed it with

Jessamyn 14:00 Oh no, I liked it so much I was looking at it and that I needed to get you the link to the Antarctic survival model art for the pandemic and other disasters from sin aesthetic, which is a great username I think and just interesting kind of mashup collage postcards that I really like and it was basically they are you know, having a kind of a grappling with their with their main main medium, which is paint and so they're doing sort of cut up stuff and data stuff. And I really, I really enjoyed it. It's a nice looking little Wix website but specifically the section which is where I was looking at and not paying attention to you briefly. Postcards from the hedge. Eye just not only not only is it cool looking stuff, but I like the way the like. So the postcards themselves are like word collage, blah, blah. Last stuff, but then you scroll down in the page, and then the page is a collage of collages, which I just find very pleasing in some I don't even know why way. Yeah,

Cortex 15:11 it's it's pretty great. It's

Jessamyn 15:12 great. It's dynamite. I like it. I fullscreen it by mistake, and now I am in. I don't know what's happening.

Cortex 15:19 Does it does escape do anything?

Jessamyn 15:22 Yeah, escape works. But you know, it's theoretically downloading because I've still got iffy internet because I'm not using the range extender. And so now I just have a big orange square.

Cortex 15:36 Well, yeah, this stuff is nice. I have not seen it. And it is.

Jessamyn 15:40 Ah, there you go. Just takes us around Wales live in the water and are shaped like fish, but they are not fish. deep thoughts from small postcards.

Cortex 15:51 Yes. This is good stuff.

Jessamyn 15:56 I put up my project. Finally, we talked about it last month, and I actually lit a fire under my butt to figure it out this month. And so this is my website that I kind of inherited. Basically, there was a lady who built the site, about the Carnegie libraries in New England. And it was a very old school HTML kind of Microsoft word translated into really shitty HTML web stuff. And I liked the website, and I think I had sent her a note. And she's like, you know, I don't know, I'm probably gonna have to close it down, because I just can't deal with it anymore. And blah. And I was like, what, it's HTML website, like, Oh, I'll host it for free. And I Biblio. And then I'll fix the HTML, and we're off to the races. And that was three years ago. And then a guy tried to help me by, you know, building a bootstrap frame, work on using Jekyll, and that I had two problems. And at like, it was just one of those things, he was super helpful, he did a lot of work with me to help get this set up into this framework. But what I wanted was to be able to edit the raw HTML, and then have it just like, you know, upload to GitHub, so there was always a backup, or be able to edit it from anywhere and have it, you know, use Version Control to stay the same. And he's like, okay, great, you know, this is all set up, you just gotta like, pull the trigger. And, you know, when I was downloading homebrew, or whatever it was, that would enable this to work from my home machine. There were many, many warnings about, you know, make sure you got all your shit backed up, because this probably shouldn't Fuck it all up. But it might. And I just talked myself out of wanting to do something that I didn't understand. And then it just took me a while to like, because it's all built in tables. Like, it's not an attractive site on the back end. But on the front end, it is adequate, and, you know, useful, but I just had to do a bunch of like, aggravating HTML updates, and I had to have some time to do that. And so no better time than when you're procrastinating about the other stuff you really don't want to do,

Cortex 18:10 right? The procrastination, judo,

Jessamyn 18:13 yeah, the virtuous cycle of procrastination is what I call it. But I'm kind of happy about it. The only thing that's weird about it is, you know, you wind up getting like these weird emails, like, Hey, I'm from the blah, blah, blah, library, and blah, blah, blah, main, and why isn't my library on your site? And like, I'm sure there's a good reason. I did not build the site, you know, but basically, they have a library that Carnegie donated some money to, why isn't it a Carnegie Library? And I don't frickin know. And so now I'm in the process of doing all this research about this library and main block. And but it's, it's good to have a little project and I'm really happy with how the tiny website came out. And, and there were some nice little feedback from some mefites about, you know, Carnegie libraries. They like, you know, good old library chat. It's always good time. Yeah.

Cortex 19:07 Biblio nerds. Yeah. Let's see, there's a soul. I talked last episode about bitfield pattern thing, because there was a post on the front page that I enjoyed. And there has since been two different projects post of people messing around with it. That same day, in fact, revenue, love, revenue. Read our event. Love that. Okay, I don't know. They posted a little pattern Explorer for messing around with these bit fields. So if you were looking at that thread, and you're like, I'm not sure what to make of all these parentheses and punctuation marks and numbers. You could go stick them in this page they built and it'll show you so that's pretty rad. And then a couple weeks later swit anvil,

Jessamyn 20:07 right. I saw that I was wondering. Yeah.

Cortex 20:11 Built a bot that posts randomly generated ones to mess it on. That's the actual link not post link clips to I am good at this or ever. Yeah. So anyway, further nerding on the thing I was already enjoying the nerding about. So I'm delighted to have that as a call back and see stuff show up on projects related to it. Good work, everybody.

Jessamyn 20:38 Yeah. And then, Nottage showed up in that project post and was like, Wow, I like this. And I ran an old twitter bot called blah. And it's just, it's cool to see when people can find other people that are jazzed about, about their thing. See, I also liked I mean, I guess we're kind of coming up on all the projects. But Miss Jenny has a pretty interesting, just little, little blip, that's like, hey, video calls, if you stay off camera, it'll reduce the environmental impact by 96%. Here's some little icons that you can use to explain to somebody why you're not on camera, and you can save. You can lower your environmental impact of video calls, which were probably all, at least me still doing an awful lot of.

Cortex 21:34 Yeah, it's it's interesting to think about like, yeah, audio, audio is a lot lighter on the bandwidth. So yes. Those are my extensive thoughts on that. I like this little project. That was Lacey posted. Just yesterday, day before a little kind of micro blogging platform called thoughts dot page. So describe it's like Twitter, except for no one can have you. It's just you know, tiny little thoughts posted on the web. Which I approve of such a thing.

Jessamyn 22:11 They've got a web rating. Yeah. And it was very low. Otherwise cost a little bit of money. I'm gonna Oh, that's really nice. Made the forbidden oatmeal today. Oatmeal with oat milk. Oatmeal with Oh, Josh.

Cortex 22:33 Was that forbidden? I mean, that's like your

Jessamyn 22:37 baby. And it's mother's milk, kind of.

Cortex 22:40 I mean, like, egg better fried chicken? I don't know. I don't think it's forbidden. I think it's just using every part of the whale. Which every part of the animal? I'm not sure if there's a canonical version of that phrase. And I'm also not sure it's not problematic. Basically, the two thoughts I had, as I said that it's

Jessamyn 23:02 probably problematic. Well, no, no, I'm not sure.

Cortex 23:08 I mean, the the notion, in principle doesn't seem like it's a problem. But it is something that I associate with sort of like romanticization. And well, it's

Jessamyn 23:15 like saying, Alaskans use every word for snow kind of it's, yeah, it's like predicated on probably, likely misunderstanding.

Cortex 23:25 Yeah, insofar as it feels like it might be sort of like a very colonial based metaphor. Um, I don't know. Anyway. There are several other projects, and also you have a hard stop. So we will just say, hey, go look at all the other projects too, because stuff is good on projects. And if you're making something posted on projects by gum,

Jessamyn 23:46 yeah, sorry about my hat. Hat.

Cortex 23:49 Hard stop. Oh my god, it's

Jessamyn 23:53 the same fucking vowels. Sorry about all the vowels, except for the E. Sorry about my hard stop. I have to go work at the library later. So

Cortex 24:05 I would actually like a linguist to grant differences in those vowels because like, they're similar values space, but I think there are hard differences stop. Yeah, they're in the same neighborhood. Yeah. Plus, you get like, yeah, the rodyk nature of like, hard. Yeah. I am. Kym if you're listening, you know, IPA on this.

Jessamyn 24:31 just seen. I am Kim. I am showing up in AskMe Metafilter. A bunch more lately. She does coaching work. Now in addition to whatever else she's been doing, and she had just I noticed, like, some exceptionally useful answers. Not that she's not always helpful, but it was cool just to be like, Oh, hey, oh, hey, that's her. Oh, look how helpful that answer is.

Cortex 24:57 Yeah, it's been nice to get around on the site more Originally, Okay, shall we talk about Metafilter? Proper?

Jessamyn 25:04 Yes, the blue. Let me see if I have any links for the blue. Ah, yes. First one that everyone should love is the cat trees, cat, cat trees, cat trees, and cats by RGD. Basically, it's just a little like a, like a little loader, that it's kind of a random number generator. And what you get is a cat tree. And it has like poles and little houses. And some of those houses have cats, which are these funny little blobs, these little black blob blob cats. And you know, it's just kind of goofy. And people in the thread are like, Oh, this that the other thing, blah. And then it changed. Partly, partway through to it added more houses, which meant more cats. And you can get inside a cat. Like, just because of how the algorithm works. Like if you if you keep zooming in and zooming in, you can get right inside a cat's eyeballs, and then be looking out through the cat through the cat's eyes. If I have this Whoa, yeah, trying to do it. At any rate, fun.

Cortex 26:41 Exceptional radio

Jessamyn 26:48 well, because you only have certain amounts of controls, and I don't know how this thing works, but I distinctly remember at one point while I was messing with this being inside one of the cats looking out of its eyeballs at, you know, whatever was in front of it, but it was fun. I liked it. And it was a great like weird thing on the internet that you can share with someone and the source code is there so you can build a thing from it? If if you want to. So thanks. Yeah, I thought it was neat.

Cortex 27:20 There was a very nice, baseball centric post, the crystal Dave made about the musical output of the Seattle garages, which is a band of baseball fans who came together to make a sort of collaborative internet band called the garages named for their favorite team, the Seattle garages and they ended up making a tremendous amount of music over the last year baseball like turned basically a year old last month I want to say hey, it's it's both bizarre that it's been a year and bizarre that has only been a year I think partly because the narrative pace of the game. It's like you know, decades have gone by essentially. But yeah, the still the garage is like it started out as sort of like a goofy thing they were doing early on in baseball the same way I was doing some like goofy music and art earlier baseball. And then they just kept consistently making album after album. And it's a huge pile of sort of narrative and world cataloging and building and also just good music and it's stunning and so crystal Dave put together great posts, sort of rounding that all up. And this is one of those things where you know, it's good music so you don't have to necessarily care about plays ball to enjoy it. This might be a way to dip your toe in the in the ocean there. But yeah, I like that. And if you want some odd fake sports related music, there you go. Go get it.

Jessamyn 28:54 Me and your little guy is back around right?

Cortex 28:58 Yeah, gone through through O'Brien was brought back from the dead and was still alive at the end of the big current arc like lace ball is back on a grand siesta now because they finished up kind of like the season plotline of it. Which ended up basically being about confronting naked growth of capitalism and destroying the concept of currency so coins no longer exist in the game, apparently. But Gunther O'Brien might beautiful penguin boy does so everything's fine.

Jessamyn 29:32 I love it. I as far as just a oh my god, I'm just trying to figure out why. Why there's a whole bunch of moms, mad Wags, blah. Well, I'm just gonna go ahead with it and skip all those parts. But basically, it's a Foo Fighters post. It's about an 11 year old drummer who plays ever Long live on stage with the Foo Fighters. And there's some videos and it's just kind of a a neat thing. She was the drummer for the Foo Fighters as CoD points out. And yeah, it's just cool. She was really psyched. And yeah. Neat, neat kid. Yeah,

Cortex 30:24 it was, it was it was very enjoyable to watch, like the whole sort of arc of her starting to like do that on the on YouTube. And being able to see her get a chance to play live with them was really fantastic. It had a bunch of flags and stuff because there's there was basically just sort of some wrestling over whether to make this post about this little girl having a fantastic time. And being a great drummer about the backstory of some shitty HIV denialism by

Jessamyn 30:58 the bass player 20 years ago, but the band didn't really specifically do anything or say anything about it. They just, you know, kind of maybe tacitly supported and then tacitly didn't support but still didn't say, That was wrong. And what we did was wrong.

Cortex 31:15 Yeah. And I mean, you know, that's shitty of them. But also, I don't think Nandy bushel really was complicit in that. So it's

Jessamyn 31:23 like one of those 100% was not born like,

Cortex 31:26 you could just, it could just be a thing that like you are upset about being part of the truce, and also not something that needs to be like this specific moment. But hey, navigating that is a weird, complicated part of community interactions, and hence the Yes.

Jessamyn 31:45 Oh, no, actually, I should probably check this while I'm here. But like, did the Foo Fighters? Yeah. And there's actually a post about the AIDS denialism from May so people can go read that. If, if they want to, I'll toss a link in here. And no, Jim and I were talking about the Foo Fighters recently. Oh, I guess there was Yeah, an earlier previously post. Because I guess the Foo Fighters have a BGS tribute album that they did for Record Store Day. Which is amazing. Sounds amazing. And as well, if you look at any of the videos, or like the Instagram, it's just like, they just do these amazing. Like, they're all dressed up like the BGS. Unfortunately, the videos aren't. Sorry, just clicking through here. The videos aren't. I know, the videos, aren't them in BG stuff. It's just but if you look at the pictures, and I will just click one link and put it over here. Well, oh, no, I I've made a sound help. Alright. Hmm. Okay.

Cortex 33:16 So this has been doing this for years. Were very

Jessamyn 33:19 literally, literally, I mean, more than a decade or less. I mean, probably

Cortex 33:25 more than I think, probably a really long time.

Jessamyn 33:27 Yeah. But but, you know, our technology has changed. Yes, that's true, somewhat. But anyways,

Cortex 33:38 that we're still, you know, doing it for free out of our houses. So yes.

Jessamyn 33:43 And so interesting thing about the Foo Fighters. And then of course, Jim had sent me a link, but because, you know, not everybody is good at links all the time. The link just went to the Foo Fighters YouTube page. And the Foo Fighters YouTube page has a trailer for a movie that they did. That was basically a new. I'm just gonna fucking go there and not try to explain it without looking at it. I believe the name of the movie is what drives us. It's like a documentary about you know, being on the road in the van, you know, but it looks really good. And of course, like Dave Grohl knows everybody, so everybody's in it. And so I'm like, looking at this watching it being like, When are they going to get to the DGS part of this thing thinking Jim had sent me a link to and I'm watching a trailer for this documentary. And then Jim's fucking dad is in it like his bio dad from the Dead Kennedys dad and I'm like, What the fuck? This is amazing. Jim, did you know that Klaus is in this movie? And he's like, what? And so now we have a new documentary that we're gonna go see and it looks like it's going to be an interest doing interesting movie. All right, yeah.

Cortex 35:06 Here is a post that I made, but it's not anything other than I happen to notice it right away. That is notable because the post the thing that I want to talk about is the thing that the post about which is Netflix.

Jessamyn 35:18 Why is it watching birds? Josh?

Cortex 35:20 No, no, no calm down. I've already set you up for disappointment, I guess it is fake fiction. presented as if it is available for watching. It's it shows within shows, movies, within shows shows within movies. You know, like there's a fake movie that plays in home alone, right? Like, there's I don't know. Wow, okay. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just like, it's just

Jessamyn 35:49 touched. I mean, maybe I saw it a long time ago. I don't like Oh, Trump is in it are in one of them. I was like, wow, he

Cortex 35:56 was in the second one. Yeah. Okay. Second one takes place like Kevin gets left in New York and sort of left at home and he wanders into Trump Tower or some shit. Kevin Conroy, Kevin, something. Actor. Anyway, there's this thing that happens in the original one where he's trying to fend off these cartoonish evil burglars who want to rob his house because I think no one's there. But there's a little boy there. And one of the many things he does to discourage them is takes this like murder at Christmas noir flick where some guys Merry Christmas, you have filthy animals and fire the tommy gun and murders some people like you know, old 1930s, whatever. And so that that is on Netflix. That is an example of a thing that only existed within the fiction of another bit of like fiction or entertainment. Oh, Johnny

Jessamyn 36:47 Chimpo.

Cortex 36:48 Johnny Chimpo.

Jessamyn 36:50 Yeah, Johnny Chimpo is from a. Again,

Cortex 36:55 what is Super Troopers? Yes.

Jessamyn 36:57 Wait, how did you find that on this? I? Oh, as soon as Christ's sake just by reading?

Cortex 37:04 Yep. Fucked up, right.

Jessamyn 37:08 Yeah. Oh, my God, Goodwill Hunting, too. So wait, is this made by the same person who made the like, the WTF Netflix looking thing?

Cortex 37:20 I don't know. It's not by Lynn Fisher.

Jessamyn 37:23 I don't know. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, I don't think that's I don't think that's this person. Although we should actually check. I'll check on Twitter real Oh, definitely not the same person. Oh, that's great. Oh, my God. So good.

Cortex 37:36 She did a fantastic job with and it just sort of showed up. And I was like, oh, that's exciting. And I'll go make a medical post about it. Great. And it turned into a bunch of people talking about stuff that they like, and what to suggest and whatnot. So yeah, it was a good time. It was a nice time.

Jessamyn 37:50 Speaking of other links that Jim sent me that have nothing to do with Jim. Web, Mike made this post about a site called Which basically makes mash up, like, videos or music mashups. Just like algorithmically, basically. And if you see the ones that are really good, like the gang them's the Gangnam Style gang. Why can I not say that anymore? Gangnam Gangam Yeah, Gangam Style touch this video, which is amazing. Like, it's basically you know, it definitely segues these two videos that, you know, you probably know are not very alike. And, and makes these very funny. Interesting looking. Algo driven. Yeah, Jim tried to make one that, you know, didn't work and took too long. So I'm not sure if he's still interested in this, but I was interested in just clicking around and seeing what people did. And this thread is just basically a lot of people. You know, being like, I liked this one. I liked this one. I liked this other one. Oh, I'm getting a weird. funny little bug. Oh, no, I'm not.

Cortex 39:10 Oh, no, no, no hilarious, Bill.

Jessamyn 39:14 I'm just having some breathing problems today. Sorry. I'm wearing different glasses. And so it'd

Cortex 39:19 be Ringo. What hilarious Beatle? No, okay. Let's move on.

Jessamyn 39:27 He turned 80 recently. Yeah, go home. Yeah. And he just like walked around and took selfies with people in Los Angeles. I think

Cortex 39:36 it's a good way to spend your birthday.

Jessamyn 39:38 I think so. I'm gonna send spend mine given away all the rest of my mother's furniture on the front yard. All right. My sister's like, you really want to do that? I'm like, Yes, I want to set in the yard with a free sign. Let people pull over and take things that I don't want. And that make them happy. While I drink fresca. And, yeah, contemplate mortality, you know? Yes. I think it'd be nice. No, I think it's good. If anybody needs some mahogany dressers hit me up. They're very heavy. You have to bring them down a flight of stairs. I can't deal with that at all.

Cortex 40:21 Oh, here's my favorite post from last month which is actually from the very end of July but it doesn't look

Jessamyn 40:31 I just love this post. Tell me what it's about.

Cortex 40:35 This is a post soccer shot first made linking to a Twitter thread. With an imagine this with claps Yeah, in between every word if you're not coupla Khan, you are and you are not in Xanadu do not a stately pleasure dome decree, which is just one of many tweets in a thread by someone goes by at no chorus on Twitter, who just started adapting. You know, references to that poem by Coleridge. Yeah, the cupola con poem basically I can't remember what the name of it is

Jessamyn 41:11 Saturday. Look on his daily pleasure dome decree. It's not Xanadu,

Cortex 41:15 right might be Xanadu, I just It occurs to me. I have no idea. I don't know what the name of the the title of the poem is. It's just Yeah, the one that started with that and went on for a bit and then a man from

Jessamyn 41:25 college Tatlock.

Cortex 41:27 Yeah. Anyway, yes. So this, this Twitter person started taking basically every meme format that comes along and restating it as a bit of that poem. So like, fellas, is a gave your coupla con in Xanadu I mean, you're literally decreeing a stately pleasure drome cry laughing emoji?

Jessamyn 41:50 Oh, shit, no, sorry. It's Samuel Taylor Coleridge. And then there's Samuel Coleridge, Taylor. I was like, What's I know? There's both? Is that what you're saying? That is what I'm saying. With Samuel Taylor Coleridge wrote cupola Khan, which is the name of that poem. And then Samuel Coleridge, Taylor was a composer and a conductor, musician. Black, very confusing. And so I went and looked at his website, and I was like, I didn't know the guy who wrote that poem was black. And it's because he wasn't. And yeah, he got married they had son named Hiawatha. Yeah. Interesting person. So yes, sorry. All right, go anyway,

Cortex 42:43 so that's Uber con. Yes, this person started adapting that poem to various meme formats, sort of snow cloning memes into other things. And there was a post about it. And then I don't know, we spent a couple 100 comments, I want to say just, oh, 339 comments, just absolutely going nuts on that. And I thought it was fucking delightful. It was a very meta talk alphabet thread, sort of deal. And I was delighted, and it was fun. And thanks, everybody. Oh, that's basically the whole thing. You know, and unfortunately, it was a month ago, so it's closed now but you know, you can write them you know, on a piece of paper and hold it close to your heart and and pretend that it's in the thread.

Jessamyn 43:24 Knock knock. Who's there interrupting Kublai Khan. Interrupting stay late pleasure dome. Very nice. Plus, it's not me it's a AWS 576 I can't make these things up. Okay I think we've established I am not creative today you probably aren't either.

Cortex 43:45 Yeah, yeah, it's Yeah, yeah. Here's one more

Jessamyn 43:50 doo doo doo doo doo coupla Conde

Cortex 43:57 I got fucking baby sharks like in my head.

Jessamyn 44:00 Worst things can happen. Yeah.

Cortex 44:03 I did have just like the first like line of the chorus of Olivia Rodrigo is good for you stuck in my head after watching an Adam Neely video about it the other day.

Jessamyn 44:14 That was the one that did the drivers listen song. Yeah, she's like, like,

Cortex 44:18 this sounds good. Yeah, it's a good pop song. It's just I had literally five seconds of it stuck in my head. Which was not great. For me. I mean, just to have that solid of in your room. Here's one of the posts from the blue. I've got a short list this month. But this one I have a

Jessamyn 44:38 green list. Okay. Oh, god. Yeah.

Cortex 44:42 The guy who was the baby on the cover of the Nirvana album nevermind is suing a bunch of people varyingly involved or not about it. And it's a weird situation. That's basically that's what I'm gonna say. It's a weird situation. One of the things where it smells like probably someone with a litigious angle recruiting someone to pursue it. But the whole story is kind of weird. And it's strange like it's strange partly because the lawsuit is focused on trying to present the whole thing as deliberate commercial child pornography, which is like, I don't think anybody thinks that was going on with that album cover, but like, maybe that's an angle they can use, because it hasn't fallen off the statute of limitations. Unlike other things that might be more been all topics of a suit on the subject. But whatever, it's weird, because this guy has this history of being the guy who was the baby on the cover, and like, trying to monetize it at times, and I think never perfectly failing, like succeeding at that, and never really establishing a bandwidth, like relationship with members of the band. And it's weird, it's weird. It's a weird story. Basically, it's a weird story. And there's a thread with a bunch of discussion of it and trying to pick out different aspects of it. And sort of balance the this feels like a weird bullshitty lawsuit. And also, boy, it would probably fuck you up to be in this weird position of being effectively famous for something that you never had any part of and never got compensated for. And like, mash those two together at high speed over the course of 30 years, and I guess you end up with a weird lawsuit.

Jessamyn 46:16 Well, I feel like I can't even remember necessarily, but I feel like I did a post a long time ago about the naked kids that are on the cover of houses of the holy hmm, similar situation, I will see if I can track it down without being too distracting. I mean, wish me wish me luck. Okay. But But yeah, I mean, we can all there is the woman who was on the cover of the blind faith album, and she was like, just barely post pubescent in a way that was clearly like, kind of not even. I mean, I would be the last person to make a times were different. Their times were different than situation. But like, you know, that was fucked up at the time. But it wasn't fucked up in a way that people were outraged about. And the woman herself was kind of like, you know, she is now a grown up person, and didn't have this as weird feeling about it, as you would expect. I think the kids on houses the holy, I don't know if I've heard of that. But but there's a whole category of, you know, yeah, people who were minors when they were naked in public in a way that wasn't necessarily that way, in a way that wasn't okay. And yet, it's harder to figure out. You know, what, what to do about that, basically?

Cortex 47:43 Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of discussion of like, different angles of that. So it was, I don't know, it was an interesting thread. It was, it was some decent sort of unpacking of different aspects of it. For what is otherwise a very sort of, like, news of the weird kind of story,

Jessamyn 47:58 right? Because I had heard that that thing happened, but I didn't know anything about it. And to be honest, I would actually trust Metafilter to look at a bunch of different angles of the thing. God, I don't know what I did with my list, because I know that I can check my meta filter posts on meta filter itself. But at one point, I pulled them all off into a big, medium thread, like a big medium article so that I could just control f them more easily. Oh, yeah, of course. The reason I couldn't fucking find this is the 11 year old post. Yeah, so that was that was the one that I that I did. Haha. But there's also an article in their best albums with nude covers and the stories behind them. And it includes the blind faith one, and I don't know if it includes the Nirvana one. But that'll definitely add to that story in an interesting way.

Cortex 48:59 The best albums nude covers, Link is Dead.

Jessamyn 49:04 I mean, the Internet Archive is there for you. Can I just I have talked a lot of trash about the Internet Archive on this podcast and in life in general. But I have to say, special completely positive shout out about the Internet Archive because they take book donations, as you probably know, in an effort to become like the world's biggest quote library, unquote, as you probably know, and I don't know if this is because I'm like a friend of the archive or not. I didn't ask too many questions. But I was like, Hey, I've got a ton of books. You take books, what do I need to do? Because I thought maybe I could drop them off at a library or do something. And they were like, oh, yeah, we'll just send you boxes and Sharpies and tape. And then we'll send a guy to come get them and I'm like, no, no, I can you know, I can drop them off thinking to myself like Fuck, how much is it going to cost to mail all these fucking box access. And they were like, oh, no, we pay for it. I was like, what? So, I don't know, I didn't ask too many questions. And I am sending you a link to a picture of me with 25 boxes completely full of books that are now not my problem, because the Internet Archive is going to scan them and I have to believe, or I am telling you, I guess, that I actually feel a little warm and fuzzy about the fact that eventually, the, you know, a lot of these are like Kid books that I used to have, but don't really need any more or, you know, weird, like encyclopedias, sets that my mother had of like weird old encyclopedias. And it's kind of nice to think that they might just show up again, you know, or might not like you roll the dice. But I'm pretty exciting about this whole situation. And I just wanted to say a very unqualified, thank you Internet Archive, because those really happy about that. Yeah, yeah. And it was a story because I figure probably will be filling in some stories, because even though I have links, I don't have lots of links.

Cortex 51:10 I have I apparently have one asked me to filter a thread in the chamber.

Jessamyn 51:14 Oh, I have like five or six. So I actually, you know, as always have been, yeah. Interactive on the AskMe Metafilter. But since I haven't been working there this month, I haven't been I haven't been on metal filter, and it's to my own, like what's the word? I'm thinking of?

Cortex 51:36 The detriment? Yes. Because,

Jessamyn 51:39 you know, it's, it's fantastic. Like, there's all this great stuff as of course, you and I are pointing out, but I just was, you know, doing stuff. I also wanted to mention this Metafilter post by RGD about Chuck Close, photorealistic paint died. And it was just a really well done. Open post. Not a lot of people in the thread. But I was always really interested in Chuck closest work and his kind of, you know, some some weirdness that surrounded his life specifically. And yeah, was a good open thread that I was happy to read. Yeah, yeah. All right, but I'm happy for a pivot to ask Metafilter but what were you saying? Sorry?

Cortex 52:22 Oh, just he's one of those guys who like the first time I saw one of his sort of Mosaic paintings it's like it hasn't really fucking good idea.

Jessamyn 52:31 Well, and he did it. Just the best, right like that, I think was the thing like the mosaics were cool. And he just did them. Like, it's not like you were I don't know about you, but for me, I It's not like I was looking at them being like, Yeah, but they can be more like, or I was just like, nope, dynamite. He's amazing.

Cortex 52:55 Now, they really work. Yeah, they really work. And also, it's the sort of thing where I don't want to just like literally bite his shit. Hey, yeah, so find finding ways to explore similar sort of ideas. Instead of just being on I'm gonna do a check. Close did maybe a thing? Yes. AskMe Metafilter. Here is my update. On a AskMe edit filter post back in 2009. Mary Miko asked if anyone could identify a specific song. Got a few suggestions, none of which turned out to be it's and as of December 30 2009, there's like nope, close. Then wrote in a few days ago to say, Oh, it was Crisco by tele pop music from the album, genetic world. So boom, there you go. 12 years later, fucking nailed it down.

Jessamyn 53:42 Hey. And these are always fun to look at after the fact. Because it's neat to see how close somebody gets to, like what they thought, like, you know, they thought the words telephone or pot might be in the name of the track. And they were, which is, you know, pretty cool. And, you know, they hadn't heard the song for a long time. And yeah, that was just cool. I love it when that happens. Yeah. So I did a whole bunch of interesting stuff and asked them to filter. One of the ones that I liked, because like, I was going to show up being like, whoo, I knew a little something about this. And then like, I saw the people who showed up who mostly really do know something about this. It was shut up. Oh, I'm

Cortex 54:32 a dilettante. Okay, right.

Jessamyn 54:33 So basically, this is by sooner T bone. Talking about like, hey, we all know about TV shows that couldn't be released on DVD or couldn't be in syndication because of music licensing issues. But why doesn't this happen? In movies like Ferris Bueller has a Beatle song, but it's fine. You see it on TV. Goodfellas has clips blah. And so then there's a couple people in the thread who explain the difference between, you know, secret Integration rates, soundtracks. And then trying to, you know, talk about the other things that you want to be able to see. And it's it really has to do with a weird moment in time, right? Because DVDs weren't really available. So you would never think that something might have like a huge market after, you know, broadcast, or you know, syndication, and so talking about, like, that weird moment in time, and that kind of stuff. And I thought about this specifically, because like eyes on the prize just became available to watch again, because people busted their ass to get access to all of the music that was originally you know, licensed, but for a short amount of time for the original. The original movie, so, or the original, I guess, TV show? Yeah. So yeah. Great thread. Interesting. I learned some stuff. I was happy. I didn't say anything, basically.

Cortex 56:03 Yeah, that's really interesting. Because yeah, it's like that's, I have like, probably a pinkies worth of guesses. But the details are a whole other thing. Yeah, I gotta come back and read this. I will favorite it, and then get confused next month, when I try and mention it. Hey, what else you got?

Jessamyn 56:25 Wow, this one was super fun, because it's one of those like, very specific nerdy requests. But I thought that thread turned out really well. Basically, you know, Olympics. And except insects was like, Look, I have access to coverage for a few more days. What should I watch? That was exciting, touching funny, weird or noteworthy. But don't tell me why. Just tell me what to watch. Just give me a link. If I search for it. It'll screw it up. Just helped me do this thing. And there's a whole bunch of people with at least one notable deleted exception.

Cortex 57:10 Moderation works.

Jessamyn 57:13 Yes, thank you, with a lot of people pointing out kind of highlights of Olympic stuff, which I just thought was cool. Because it is a pointer for you know, many of us who didn't watch the Olympics very closely. I watched some things, but it was just kind of random. And a lot of it was early days. To to what's cool. So that was neat. Nice. Yeah. I like it. very specific, very specific thread. In a, you are right. And you know, this, this is classic. Am I the asshole or you know, more than point? Are they the asshole thread? By anonymous? Question very brief. Am I obligated to make good on a 13 year old check. So basically, they got email from a previous landlord, saying that the landlord had found a check from 2008 that they hadn't cashed. And they wanted the money. Hmm. Right. Yeah, I think and, you know, they were basically like, like, am I obligated? Legally Question one, and then 2am. I obligated morally? And most people are like, nope, fuck that guy, though. There are, you know, some people who are landlords, you know, talking a little bit about it, but a lot of people are like, look, that was kind of their response. Like, that's the business. You know? Yeah. Like, banks don't have to cash it. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And people talk about you know, like, if you wrote a friend a check that they found several years later, you might make good on it, because maybe you actually got the thing. But that's your friend. You know, the landlord isn't your friend blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so, again, you know, couple wise as comments deleted, but other than that, people were like, nope, move on. Pretend you didn't even get the email. This is ridiculous. Sorry about that guys problems, but blah.

Cortex 59:22 I actually just saw a thread that will continue on. Talking before I analyze the situation,

Jessamyn 59:32 here's a thread by are Jacobs. basically talking about vegetarians as protein. Like, Hey, do you have to make sure when you're just eating sort of a regular diet as a vegetarian, that you're getting enough protein like is it a thing that you're likely to miss if you don't specifically pay attention to it right because I think a lot of us if we You've been eating vegetarian, you know, you're like, well, beans and rice is a complete protein. But if you just eat one or not the other, then you won't blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And, you know, Tamarack sort of comes in early this. Oh, I said by our Jacobs Tamra that comes in kind of early, you know, thinking about this, as a vegan, you may just want to make sure because I think with vegetarians, especially, you can get like, you know, milk and eggs and that kind of stuff. But basically, if you're eating enough food, you are getting enough protein, you know, you should pay attention to some, you know, other macronutrient things that you need to pay attention to, there's healthy and non healthy versions of anything, this might vary, if you're breastfeeding, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. You know, people point out FENSA gal points out that like, actually, what a lot of people don't get enough of is fiber, and it cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So yeah, it's a it's an interesting thread of people talking about some stuff gets a little, you know, into people's specific food concerns. But it was an interesting thread and I learned some stuff about nutrition and I appreciated it.

Cortex 1:01:16 I was looking through the the popular stuff, and I will throw out this one that caught my eye which is basically tell me what commonly taught facts and trivia are oversimplifications. Oh, I really learned before age 30 Lovely. But

Jessamyn 1:01:31 well, and because it was weirdly tricky, right? Because they had to have like some, you know, kernel of truth to it. But you know, that it's like, on the one hand, but on the other hand, but really, you know, depends. So depending on what level you understand the information, I thought this was so interesting, but I'm sorry, go on, feel free to

Cortex 1:01:53 No, that's it. I mean, I'm just tripping across this. So if you read the thread, you're ahead of me on the details, but the concept is good. And I like this stuff I'm glancing at.

Jessamyn 1:02:01 Yeah, and like, like, gravity in space was my favorite example. Because like, Jim and I talk about that a lot. Like, like, there's no gravity and like deep space, but in low Earth orbit, there's gravity just like, you know, on the surface. You know, just because you're moving sideways really quickly. It feels it's very confusing to me, Jim understands it and explains it. And it's one of those things it doesn't stick because I'm so but and you know, there's just there's just a lot of really interesting you know, things things about bones thinks about flight training, every time back seat pilot shows up in a thread. It's just a delight because he is like, the world's clearest explainer guy. And I always appreciate that because he knows a lot which is one thing, but he's good at talking about a lot which is kind of another thing in fact, I that reminded me have a very good other thing that I'll bring up after this. But basically talking about you know, the way lift works about Bernoulli slaw and it's wrong but it's not

Cortex 1:03:11 wrong. Not the not the Carter was okay, but not not like Lyft and Uber.

Jessamyn 1:03:17 I don't even go see work by

Cortex 1:03:20 Yeah, anyway, I think he's gone. I don't

Jessamyn 1:03:24 even have those things around here. But yeah, just there's just interesting you know, snake oil salesman is pejorative, not because snake oil was fake, but because they were charlatans who you know, capitalize on the social ignorance of the real snake oil Chinese laborers taken here to build the railroads so like the oil and American snakes didn't do the stuff and so calling something snake oil it was just really interesting. I am having a hard time even reading it and explaining it but the reason snake oil salesmen wasn't a good thing to say is actually more because of racism then because of you know, what snake oil could or could not do. Yeah. Which was very interesting. And I am going to also mention backseats pilots exceptional answer in the Apollo 13 thread where did my little up because basically, you know, there was a question by collective mind saying, you know, I don't I don't get it like basically collective mind guy, sorry, I'm not on the flight thinking to that cool, but basically,

Cortex 1:04:54 we're getting through, you know, asking

Jessamyn 1:04:55 like, Well, statistically, what did they think the chances were for the people on earth? Apollo 13 Like, did people calculate the odds? Why not? You know, you know, what is that kind of failure is not an option mindset. And and did the what happened in Apollo changed the way people thought about real long shot situations and backseat pilot shows up? And because the question wasn't the interesting part to me, but like backseat pilot shows up and he's like, really, that's not actually how, you know, aerospace engineer discussions, work. But let me talk about how we actually do risk analysis, each identified risk is given to scores one to five one is likelihood one is consequence. You know, so if something's really unlikely, but the consequences terribly bad, you would pay less attention to it than if something was very likely to have like a problem. But consequence wasn't an issue, you know. And so he's like, we don't really talk about odds. But we do talk about, you know, how to solve problems in this really interesting way. And I just read that comment, and I just thought it was real good nodded along with it. And the question itself was a little weird, but maybe just had, you know, betrayed a somewhat like a misunderstanding, maybe because the movie says one thing, but like, what happened is something really different.

Cortex 1:06:17 Yeah. Yeah, that's sort of like hazard versus risk, or, yeah. That is neat.

Jessamyn 1:06:29 I've just got one more thing for masking metadata. Essentially, I'm just saying I was looking at an 1883 house in Ohio. And it's got a stone foundation and a nice Reno on the inside. And their buyer's agent, realtor is worried about the foundation. And as you may know, I am selling an 1850s house with an 18 with a stone foundation that has a New Reno on card. So I was like, well, and you know, it's not in Ohio. I don't know what the market is, like, there. I don't know the people there. But, um, preserver, who is a, I believe historic preservation, smart person who lives you know, fairly nearby, basically has some, you know, has some of their own sort of information about helping that person. And here's the nonprofit for looking at information about heritage buildings and history stuff. And they've got these building Doctor clinics and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so I don't know, you know, what the original poster is going to come back and do about it. But they were just trying to trying to figure out like, Well, who do we call to figure out is, does a realtor know what they're talking about? Or not blah? So yeah, was kind of an interesting thread. And I, you know, nodded along with it and hopes that my small amount of feedback was helpful.

Cortex 1:08:03 Nice. Yep. Well, I can mention if you met a talk things, and then we will, there's been a bunch of stuff going on. There has been most notably, August was fundraising month, I need to do a wrap up post for it. But, you know, web revenues being what they are. We're, as we've talked about before doing more partial staffing thing for now to about 75% of the 24 hour cycle. And one of the ways we've

Jessamyn 1:08:32 been going okay, right, that's been good.

Cortex 1:08:34 Okay. Yeah, you know, it's like, there's you there, the inevitable thing is, like something managed to blow up when someone's not on the clock, and it's a little bit more of a cleanup job at that point. Sure. That's doable. And that was worked all the time back in the old days, so

Jessamyn 1:08:49 Right. Well, and I haven't noticed it myself just as a you know, kind of regular old user, you know, the my only thing is like, have they not deleted this absolutely asinine comment by user that drives me crazy because they're not working. Or because they don't worry with me.

Cortex 1:09:04 I don't know. Am I just eating crackers?

Jessamyn 1:09:07 Right, exactly.

Cortex 1:09:09 Yeah, no, yeah, I think it's been working pretty well. As far as that goes. I would prefer to just be able to get back up to 24 hour coverage but you know, for now, we're making up work. But getting the site revenues back up is what would make it possible to get back to 24 hour coverage. So we raised about $1,100 a month in new recurring revenue this month, which is great. That's a big bite out of that space we want to cover I noticed you've

Jessamyn 1:09:39 got 666 for me fights helping fund metal filter. So if you want to you know try your luck to read the 6666

Cortex 1:09:51 Get in there. Yeah, roll roll that odometer up to super Satan. Yeah, get after him. So yes, Basically, thanks for everybody who has re upped or started support for the site. It's a weird time for it. But it's been a weird time for a long time. So, hey, but that's been nice. And we had a couple theme posts that came out of that. Including, we've got a newsletter now that we're

Jessamyn 1:10:20 doing that seems like it's been super fun. I have been reading along with it. I don't know. I didn't look at the last one. So I don't know if you figure it out. Because I use tiny letter, the platform myself, my newsletter. So if Tez has any questions about, you know, why are my images showing up the weird size? Or whatever

Cortex 1:10:39 I'd be? Yeah, actually, we got some help from Pronoiac has been helping out on the sort of technical side. Oh, that's great, because because he's used tiny little before, too. So he's been hanging out in the newsletter channel on the mod slack to work through some of the weird editing hiccups with Taz. And that has seemed to work out very well. And yeah, huge shout out to Taz, who's been taking the lead on this, which is very up her alley.

Jessamyn 1:11:08 It's been fun and engaging. Yeah, she

Cortex 1:11:10 has been really enjoying working on it. So it's, it's, it's working out nice. And it's kind of like, it's it's not the same thing as the podcast. But like, if you'd like the podcast, partly for the link roundup stuff, like definitely check out the newsletter, because it's that without all the gambling and if you're here for the yammering, I love you and appreciate, you know, you're not required to have the gambling. I don't know that the podcasts and the newsletter will converge at any point per se, but it might be something that we can find a way to make. synthesize a little bit in a positive way. Yeah, that'd be fun. Yeah, so that's great. I really like I really liked newsletter. I'm so excited about it. It's it's nice to be doing it feels very in the spirit of kind of the whole point of Metafilter. So yeah, we've had some nice metal cocktail posts we've had

Jessamyn 1:11:56 sweet art theme week is still in the header. It is and so is the fundraiser. So why don't you take care of that after we get off this phone call? Yeah, exactly.

Cortex 1:12:05 I think that's my plan. Yes, thank you. I think it's, it's a unnecessarily qualifiers on everything sort of day. All right. I hear that. We're getting through. We're surviving. So yes, stuff, lots of limited filter stuff and things and whatnot. And we did a podcast and here we are. And yeah,

Jessamyn 1:12:29 great. And I'm gonna make it to the library on time. I might even have time to get a little coffee beforehand, because, wow, that might really help.

Cortex 1:12:39 I'm realizing only one cup of tea this morning. And that might be a contributor. You've got

Jessamyn 1:12:41 a whole day ahead of you there too. I know. I might at least I should wrap it up. I feel like

Cortex 1:12:47 Yeah, yeah. If you're still upright, and it's like, yeah, four o'clock there. You're doing great.

Jessamyn 1:12:52 Yeah. And going to work at the library till 8pm. I like for Today's

Cortex 1:12:56 my day off, which is why I'm doing work related stuff. Of course, that makes sense. I'm still working on that.

Jessamyn 1:13:02 Well, I mean, what do you do? Right? Because if you're working on the site, we can easily podcast without having you be really distracted.

Cortex 1:13:08 Exactly. You know, I definitely want to not be multitasking while doing this. And and yeah, so it will, in fact, have been a highlight of my day. And I am glad to have sat around talk with you. Yeah.

Jessamyn 1:13:20 Likewise, I feel like you know, we we made it in the very early days of September, considering how much is going on. I think that was good. You know, just doing a little count your count, count your count your good things.

Cortex 1:13:35 Yep. Everybody, everybody counts something. And we'll see you in a month. And probably probably higher energy and decibel levels.

Jessamyn 1:13:46 Probably Probably a little less time screwing around with computers and a little bit more time talking about the site. And classic Elvis song Happy for a good month of leisure. Which I am continuing to fuck up as I do every month by being just really really busy.

Cortex 1:14:06 Be careful, or you'll look back and realize that it already is forgotten. That verb went away. Sure. George went cheers. I'm just free associating completely now,

Jessamyn 1:14:19 you know, is the uncle of Ted LaSalle. I did not know Jason Sudeikis.

Cortex 1:14:25 I did not know that. If I knew I forgot it. Yeah, it's not as it's not a super exciting fact to me. Like, are you kidding? But like, I've just said, Well, it's like,

Jessamyn 1:14:32 I mean, my fact.

Cortex 1:14:34 I'm sorry. I don't I don't mean to poopoo your fact I like I'm reflecting on the idea that like, I may have known that and forgotten it because yeah, I'm like, Okay, well, that's a nice fact about Jason Sudeikis. And George went, I guess, but yeah, but maybe I just learned it. I don't know why I'm overthinking this. We almost we almost got out. We almost got out before I get distracted. Hey everybody. Thanks for listening. Hey,

Jessamyn 1:14:57 thanks for listening.

Cortex 1:14:59 You All great we'll see you in a month theater month