Podcast 14 Transcript

A transcript for Episode 14: Race Car Bed for Adults (2007-08-26).

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mathowie 0:07 Jessamyn Welcome to the metal filter podcast. Welcome to Episode 14 of the metal filter podcast this week we've got updates and news and recaps from Metafilter announcement filter.

Unknown Speaker 0:21 I was born on the island off new phone land. I spent my childhood in the forest floor was little that I thought back then that I die on I guess I'm

mathowie 0:37 finally happy we are through the woods on the server shit. Oh my god.

Jessamyn 0:41 So you think that you think that's a definite? You really feel? Yeah.

mathowie 0:45 I feel like it's a lock. We got through one middle day yesterday. So yesterday, the server was Zippy all day Zippy for like,

Jessamyn 0:54 right in the morning. Right in the morning.

mathowie 0:56 Was it yesterday?

Jessamyn 0:58 Yeah, I think so. Yeah, wake up. You do? It. Probably.

mathowie 1:01 It was. It was for all I know, it was it be for 24 hours straight. And we did more traffic than we've ever done ever. So I think the bottlenecks are gone. Like, yeah, like, what do you think is happening? That is I'll tell you exactly. We did three things. We didn't isolate. So the last two weeks? Well, the last six months have been shitty, right? Like, from 11am or 10. to about two Pacific time. It just sucks the middle of the day.

Jessamyn 1:34 Right. I think people have noticed that they've got it up. Yeah, it's just

mathowie 1:39 overloaded. And I've been doing both things incrementally. And then we've been looking at the new version of ColdFusion since it came out, I think on the first of this month. Um, you see, look at yesterday. Yeah, like, so. I'm this is just going off. AdSense is a pretty good. That's like half of the traffic. Year. Wow. Yeah, it's really, I should do a screenshot of this

Jessamyn 2:11 screenshot. It would be cool to link to a screenshot in the podcast.

mathowie 2:14 Yeah, it's basically like, there's sort of this upper bound of like, 180,000 or 200,000 pages a day. Also 160 to 180,000 pages a day being served every weekday, you know, little Monday peaks, but every weekend, it falls to maybe 100,000 120,000 130. Friday

Jessamyn 2:37 evenings really as slow as they feel like they

mathowie 2:40 are Yeah, well, you got to I'm tracking things Eastern time. Yeah, I'm tracking stats on you know, like, Pacific time. And I think it goes all the way you know, it's already like 3am in England. And so weekend, like, Fridays are really slow Sunday's are better than Saturdays, the worst day of the week in terms of traffic, meaning not a lot slow. Yeah, very, very low traffic. Because it's like Saturday or Sunday for everyone around the world. Right? Friday, everyone checks out on Friday, and they're gone. And it's really as soon as Eastern time people go home from work on the the old bad days of service being pummeled, as soon as Eastern time people go home at like two or three o'clock Pacific time suddenly services up again.

Jessamyn 3:31 Well, because it's not like email, right? Where some people like they go home from work. And then they fire up their email. Like, we used to have like ISP dips, when I worked at speakeasy where it's like between like five and 7pm dial up ports were full because everybody came home and check their email, you know, back in dial up days, and people just don't do that. Oh,

mathowie 3:52 yeah. Everything happens at work. It's really weird. So yesterday, so everything's been running 170,000 a day or something. Yesterday, it was 230,000. And like, it was Zippy during that so nice work team. So yeah, metaphors are speedy as shit during the day now. Should be forever for a while. Forever for a

Jessamyn 4:15 while. Matthew, Matt. Yeah,

mathowie 4:17 I don't want to jinx it for a while. I don't know.

Jessamyn 4:21 It's like as soon as you say like, Oh, Baby, I love you forever. Like that's the beginning of the end. Just be you know, practical. So far. It looks good.

mathowie 4:30 Yeah, yeah. So I am so freaking happy. I haven't slept in a week.

Jessamyn 4:39 I've been sleeping like a baby over this set.

mathowie 4:41 It's been sucking so bad. Oh, we're up to three days since abandoned. So that's good.

Jessamyn 4:48 To say we should probably explain what you're talking about. For people who don't like live in Mettaton. I'll post a link to that. A new admin tool.

mathowie 4:57 Yeah, we actually have an admin log of things we've done and banning is one of the things that gets done. So we have, we can simply query it for the last one that happened. We almost had to do someone this morning. So

Jessamyn 5:09 we sent a threatening letter, we're hoping he'll shape up.

mathowie 5:12 I think normally we do one a month. I think that's, I think that's normal, right? One a month, maybe, maybe,

Jessamyn 5:18 except for maybe random self linkers. Occasionally, but I mean, people who are like actual committee members,

mathowie 5:24 one a month may be tops, it's not something we look forward to doing.

Jessamyn 5:33 Let's talk about the site, oh, you know, the most favorited posts in the last month, it doesn't tell you what the date was on the posts until you click through.

mathowie 5:41 So the borderline personality disorder one? Well,

Jessamyn 5:45 borderline personality sort of thing was like good news, bad news, right? There was a whole bunch of people who were like, you know, this is my experience with BPD. And it was really interesting. But then there was a whole bunch of people who got not a whole bunch. But I mean, there was at least a couple people who were like, look, when my BPD partner talks about people talking about BPD people in these really negative ways. It's a bad experience. And so this post is a problem. And, you know, I think it stirred up a lot of emotions for people, which was like good news. But also, you know, sometimes sometimes I think hard, it got 148 favorites, which was just kind of crazy. Like, I probably shouldn't say that. Which was just like, really, really out there. I mean, it was well above the next, the next one. below it. I thought it was

mathowie 6:37 we've had a whole bunch of asthma filter questions lately, where it's like, Should I leave my husband, he has this personality disorder. And a lot of people don't like, I think it's sort of this weird new catch all term that people just set people off sometimes, like the Yeah, what's like an affliction that just sort of everyone has every five years, you know, it's sort of like, this is a DD or ADHD, like, here's a new term, that takes away my responsibility for being an asshole like, or being crazy or being self selfish as hell. So I think the BPD stuff comes up asthma for a lot, and people are like, I think people would take it seriously, or like, those people are toxic, run away from them as fast as you can get them out of your lives and move on. The other half are like, it's a bullshit non disease that's like, we made up to cover assholes or something,

Jessamyn 7:35 when there's a lot of people who just want to be supportive of whatever flaw their partner has, and like, you know, just need help dealing with that. And if you're one of those, like DTF, DT MFE people, you know, you have a very difficult time, like having a conversation with somebody who's like, I'm trying to support my partner who is, you know, has this very serious problem, whatever that very serious problem is, you know, yeah, I mean, just that I think with mental illnesses, we have a tendency to people understand them through their own filters. So it's not like, Oh, my partner is blind, when everybody kind of feels like they have an idea of what that means, or my partner doesn't have any legs or whatever. But when you say like, BPD, I think a lot of people are like, wow, yeah, either. Oh, it's bullshit, or oh, those people are toxic, or, Oh, those people need a special kind of care. And it's very hard to even sort of agree on first principles instead of like, you know, with your blind partner, like, don't move the furniture when they're away, because they'll bump into it, and everybody can kind of agree that that's what you need to do. Yeah.

mathowie 8:39 It's always good to get someone's personal experience with this stuff. And bookish post was really good.

Jessamyn 8:47 Yeah, especially especially. And that was like a post to like this, you know, blog on somebody talking about talking about what this is like. And I really think you know, sharing this kind of stuff, it's one of the things I really liked about the internet is you can find lots of people who have gone through whatever your thing is, whether it's tech support problems, or you know, sort of dealing with emotional physical mental illness issues, you know, when you can kind of decide what you think about it instead of like, you read a book or two books. And you either have to like agree or disagree but you've only got two data points instead of like 100 which will help you formulate your opinion I think

mathowie 9:25 what else was super popular or your favorite?

Jessamyn 9:29 Well the Excel spreadsheet question me the Excel post right after it in the most favorite posts of the past month? Yeah, it was just, you know, super, super geeky. Here's the thing you want to know about. About Excel. In fact all of the like the really most favorites were also my favorites in in a lot of ways in metal filter like you know, the the one we sideboard about the death mask. And did you read that one? It was a really it was one of the few posts this week, I guess where I've read like every single link, where it was a woman who drowned in the sun. And they made a death mask, which became kind of a thing that people would put up in their houses. And then when the people built the rasa, and

mathowie 10:17 Oh, yeah. No, no. Yeah, I saw the sidebar link and dove into it last night.

Jessamyn 10:26 Yeah. And it was from blah, blah, blah. Who would actually one is it blah, blah, blah, or blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Okay. Who would actually want I think one of the contest that we had a while back, but just like the whole post was like, really interesting. Everybody really liked it. And, oh, I had a couple more posts from

mathowie 10:46 every CPR doll is modeled after some woman who died from drowning. Interesting, huh? Yeah, that's weird. Why did you become famous, like, read the Parros? I didn't get it.

Jessamyn 11:00 Because she was pretty, and like, you know, serene and identified. Nobody knew who she was. So very, very mysterious.

But yeah, there was a couple, there was a couple other really interesting things from August, there was the the crazy, the crazy salt mine post that darshans did, which was interesting, because I think meat bomb had just been there, or somebody was going there. Or it was all about these, like, you know, there's these giant salt mines, and people carve all these really interesting things out of them. I don't know, I just thought it was really pretty, it has these great pictures to look at. And, you know, it was it was a classic, like neat stuff you find on the web. And then one that didn't get a lot of attention, but I thought was really neat was to Lauren's post, you know, there's certain users like a lot of the stuff they post I just tend to kind of always like, which was like visualization for county to county migration data, like what happened in each like us county between the 2000 and the 2005. Census IRS, like what was happening with household income county by county and who was moving in whatever. So you can see whether your county like got people in or lost people or got richer or got poor or whatever, you know, so it's interesting looking at my county, like 400 people moved in, I guess, to my county in those five years. So it's like, Oh, neat, you know, counties doing better awesome.

But it wasn't, you know, it wasn't like, didn't get a lot of people jumping up and down, but I just thought it was really neat. Lee Johnson

mathowie 12:40 update. Johnson only shows up twice, but one of them was the coolest thing how to make your own bacon. That's just it's been everywhere. I see it coming back and being on blogs like stop reading this.

Jessamyn 12:54 I don't really know how I missed that. Stop reading

mathowie 12:57 this and like go home and make bacon how to make it with maple syrup and stuff.

Jessamyn 13:03 Dude, whatever everybody fetishize is maple syrup unless like, and then you don't freaking care.

mathowie 13:09 Vermonter

Jessamyn 13:12 it's so true. I mean, you like what you people pay for maple syrup. Like we just get it from people

mathowie 13:20 got Romana tree and eat him as we walk.

Jessamyn 13:25 I've got a jar full of maple syrup in my fridge right now somebody gave it to me. We only buy it to like give it to people from out of town. So the world's most perfect bacon. This is my bacon story. I used to live in Eastern Europe as you probably know and when you get bacon There

you go to the butcher and they've got this like this big stump and this big like they've got like an axe and a whole bunch of these butcher knives. And they literally like cut the bacon 40 like right off the pig and you take it home with like it's got pigskin with like hair on one side of it. And like tasty tasty bacon on the other side of it and you actually have to slice it off yourself.

Unknown Speaker 14:07 It's terribly good.

Jessamyn 14:10 The hair part well, whatever. I guess if you're like a really high end butcher in Romania, you send it off with a blowtorch. But fancy Oh using vital the champagne of blog See now I'm reading about seeing

mathowie 14:27 without thinking that I'm actually marked myself.

Jessamyn 14:34 Oh, see the maple syrup. And this blog is from Maine. We

mathowie 14:37 see the metaphor posts and Mark lately was that wedding photographers site was just nice looking like aren't a lot of nice wedding photographer sites.

Jessamyn 14:49 Well, they all look the same, right? Yeah.

mathowie 14:52 I guess this guy has a blog and he puts a giant logo at the bottom of every pitch every post which I think is better than a watermark how much people are like, Oh, this guy's annoying logo. He has an awesome logo. The colors actually, colors actually go with almost every picture and make the picture look better and more professional anyway. Someone's like what isn't just put a big watermark in the corner, which I think is way annoying.

Jessamyn 15:18 Oh, and it's probably two girlfriend's got a really great, great blog.

mathowie 15:22 Oh yeah, that was one of the mythbuster dudes favorite blogs was girl brain like that was like number nine on his list of blogs. He reads their sites he reads.

Jessamyn 15:34 Yeah, it's a really nice blog girl brain scans, let's wedding photography. These

mathowie 15:39 are just like amazing photos. Like I can't like just plain like, amazing for weddings and crap.

Jessamyn 15:47 There's a million of them.

mathowie 15:50 That's probably your sound is degrading.

Jessamyn 15:56 Exactly. I'm done looking at it. Okay. And the obligatory post that I didn't read, but I really want to at some point was the other very popular. Yeah. So I have to say, this a good mashup.

mathowie 16:10 Watch all those different got around to it either. And the Charlie Rose that was another popular one. Charlie Rose put his entire website into Google Video, which is like pretty freakin awesome. Like 8000 video segments. I already saw blogs linking to like specific interviews from years ago. But it's like you could,

Jessamyn 16:29 that's awesome. That happens. It's like It's like trying to find like, Saturday Night Live like music bits, like you can find an awful awful lot of them. And it's great when stuff like that, like you can find an interview with somebody that you remember from like 10 or 15 years ago and you just know it's going to be on the internet instead of having to scrape

mathowie 16:48 Charlie Rose is one of those guys that you know, once in a while, he gets greater views once in a while, but it's not something I would ever TiVo because I'd have to go through so much stuff. I don't care about to get to the one or two interest. I think once every two weeks he has someone really interesting.

Jessamyn 17:06 Oh, David Foster Wallace. My.

mathowie 17:09 The other thing is like, I don't know Charlie Rose, isn't that great of an interviewer like he's a little a little bit of a suck up I think too much. But then other times he asked hard questions. So that's when people are like, Oh my God, you know, he took someone to the match for this. I saw recently doing Matt graining and James Brooks about the Simpsons Movie. And it was just fawning praise. Yeah, half an hour, which is kind of annoying because the Simpsons Movie wasn't that good. Really, I'm gonna go see. Okay, it's good. It's like the last couple years of the show. Which is like it's okay. Funny and spots, which I would best describe. I'd heard horrible reviews of it. So I thought it was better than the reviews but it's not great. It's not season three or something. Quality. Okay. See, good. Well

Jessamyn 18:00 decided to drive in so I'm going to try and see it

mathowie 18:02 never been to drive into need to go. I can't play it. In high school. There was one drive in in Southern California that was still operating not strictly a swamp me. It was just notorious for this is where you go to have sex because you know, you're 16 you have a car. You can't nobody has a house they can go to so you have to go. Right everybody's parents watch. Yeah, so it wasn't like, like, if you told your male buddies Hey, let's go see a driving they would be like what? Like

Jessamyn 18:37 really, cuz we go drink at them, too. They were for drinking. So you could go. Yeah.

mathowie 18:44 So never did it. And what, like 10 miles away. There's, I think the oldest continuously operating driving on the west coast or something like since 1948. This drive has been open. It's like 10 miles away from where I live.

Jessamyn 19:00 Did they're great with kids because kids can just be like, and they're not Well,

mathowie 19:04 the thing is, it doesn't start till nine o'clock. It's like, oh my god, it's bedtime. So we can't really crank a movie in the car while she wants to go sleep or keep her up much past. I think when she's older and she's like, stay closer to bed and she's like seven or something. That's okay. She occasionally stays up till midnight, like that would be awesome. So I hope it stays around for another five years. The contact Content Aware image resizing, I thought was awesome. That video demo. Did you see that? So some guys, some guys video demo from SIGGRAPH, the like graphics convention. Yeah, just watch the little YouTube video. It's awesome. It's just like, researchers have figured out a way to resize images by cutting out the uninteresting parts with an algorithm that just figures out like Well, that's probably just negative space so we can cut that out. If you're gonna stretch it like it works live in real time as you stretch images, taller or wider, and it like repeat stuff as nest, it's really watch the video. It's really cool.

Jessamyn 20:13 I will have to could, I will have to go read it. There's a lot of chat from cortex. And that's yes. So maybe I'll just ask him, it's just

mathowie 20:19 one of those sort of, here's a cool demo. Like, here's a cool video photo demo. Like the photo sent that Microsoft thing that was the crazy Zoomer thing, it's just makes for an awesome demo. And it's very popular.

Jessamyn 20:37 And it's guys here. Oh, who posted the Comic Sans thread from this,

mathowie 20:40 right? Yeah. It was all because

Jessamyn 20:43 for all Linux nerds,

mathowie 20:45 ya know, we're wondering what's up, we should probably link to the I saw the Flickr image. And it was funny, and I was like, Hey, I should just do that. And cortex has the greatest comment ever in the comic sans thread. Yeah, really? I did not or text one. There it is. anyone's ever worked in a shitty office is seen this. Written in Comic Sans, written on a piece of paper taped to the microwave. With the exact same spelling. The exact same. I've seen that so many times. I'd say your mother does. Oh, yeah. People close to that too. But he did it perfect with the centering and all like, God. That's exactly.

Jessamyn 21:35 Can I also say like, if your mother did work here, I swear I've said this in a podcast before but even if your mother did work here, maybe she wouldn't have to do all the dishes. You know what I mean?

mathowie 21:43 To be nicer to your mother and chip in? Don't be an asshole son. Right. So see what's AskMe edit filters most popular ever.

Jessamyn 22:00 The only thing that I saw an AskMe edit filter that wasn't already in popular was just kind of a you know, like the puzzle thing from last time was this guy and his wife got this fireproof document box. And so so you know, they have to they were putting all their documents in it, you know, their title and whatever. But the box claims it keeps digital media safe for half an hour. So the guy was like, I want to put a USB stick in there

mathowie 22:24 our head. But

Jessamyn 22:29 it was just kind of as funny thread because people were like, dude, whatever. Do you not have anything you need? Like?

It was just a funny thread. I mean, people had like real, you know, they were like scans of baby pictures, home videos, lists, pharmaceutical allergies. But then there were a lot of other people who are like, really half an hour for a USB stick, whatever. What does it correspond

mathowie 22:53 to in a raging fire? It would only work for half an hour. Like you can only save your stuff

Jessamyn 23:00 in a raging fire. You could like get to it, I guess, or something or like

mathowie 23:03 after a half hour, the safe would fail and your USB thing would get too hot and erase everything. Is that the problem?

Jessamyn 23:11 Maybe Maybe good question. Maybe Maybe somebody will know and be able to comment in a meta talk threat. I was thinking about that, though. Like special documents. Like remember how I mean, you guys bought your house, right? Like you've got a title. Yeah. And like people are like, people are like, Oh, title, you know, go get a safe deposit box. And I don't think it's

mathowie 23:32 like, these days.

Jessamyn 23:35 If you lose the title to your car, like you still own your car, you just have to get a new title. And it's a pain but it's not like it's not like racing for racing for pink slips or whatever. And like you give up your pink slip and the car doesn't belong to you anymore. I was just thinking about

mathowie 23:50 my wife. Since we moved in this house was like, Yeah, every couple months, he's like, Hey, we should get one fireproof safes or something? And I'm like, really care? Like, right,

Jessamyn 24:03 I'll have bigger problems if the house burns down. Yeah, like I don't even know where my title is. Like, I'm sure it's around, you know, but it never would occur to me to like, spend money on a safe deposit box digital

mathowie 24:13 digital archiving, I think there's a copy of everything ever. You can get a new birth certificate, like it doesn't matter.

Jessamyn 24:22 I've gotten new birth certificates. Yeah, I've done that before. And people ask occasionally, like a metal filter, like I need to get this birth certificate or that birth certificate

mathowie 24:31 takes a while but it's not impossible.

Jessamyn 24:34 But if you're really you and you can verify your identity one of nine different ways. Often, you know, that works. There's very, I was just curious about that. There's very few documents that aren't replaceable, like plane tickets. Remember when you would like lose a plane ticket and you would just be like losing your mind in the airport. Like I'm not gonna get on the plane. That's all there is to it. My vacation is over.

mathowie 24:55 That's just dropping $1,000 We'll never get back on the ground. Oh,

Jessamyn 25:01 great. I remember I lost a ticket once like, I don't know, it was in my pocket and I lost it in the bathroom and they like paged me at the airport and they're like, whoa, and this must have been like, whatever 15 years ago and they were like good thing we found you and seriously it was like it would have been like losing $1,000 And that's just like, going to be this weird history that like next generation totally mysterious.

mathowie 25:23 My favorite posts in the last month on AskMe edit filter was I always liked the resolved I added the resolve tag. I like I like closure right? We all want closure. And it was the guy who That's right. He had two big fish tanks with fish in them and he leaves for a week and he has his father come in to feed the fish. The father comes in the first two days feeds the fish father comes in what two days later than the fish are dead and the tanks are empty and like there's no sign of break in there's no sign of water and it was this mystery like what the fuck happened? Did somebody who stole my fish yeah did people break in kill my fish and leave exactly the same like these weren't expensive fish like there was computers laying around nobody this person was convinced and the father was convinced someone broke in and did some broke the tank and emptied it because it was just way too much water to have escaped without leaving a mark

Jessamyn 26:35 to have snuck through Yeah, so people came up with all

mathowie 26:37 kinds of like ways to figure out if your doors or side backdoors had been broken into or Windows or and then came to came a leak leak tests for the tank and they came up with rates of loss of water that might have happened and check that it went down to like wood flooring or something so we thought you'd see water stains turns out in the end where it says like follow up post Yeah, that was it. I was just about to paste in for you FC come in I was just so happy to see closure people I am a problem solver I am in me going like you know we need an email reminder system so that he gets an email to post a follow up like six months later and then we all get emailed automatically to say this has been closed I occupied mental space where you dear reader six months ago has been solved you can release that bit of memory.

Jessamyn 27:49 Oh Hey, speaking of I just got an instant message from I guess Empath from metta filter you know that that thread about the white men with their startups the adopted Chinese stops Well, the photographer just got an account and posted in that thread.

mathowie 28:06 Is it not creepy? Was it accidental creepiness?

I am the photographer I was saying So this guy's like translating it to English.

Jessamyn 28:21 I am not trying to direct what you want to believe is basically the photographer's

mathowie 28:26 so he's saying it's not Yeah, we're watching to its Dateline Catch a Predator or something?

Jessamyn 28:33 No shit. Yeah, okay. But it's just cool. It's cool that the photographer updated it and now we can announce creepy the photos

mathowie 28:41 are creepy to our Western eyes but they're just sort of natural photos that are slightly odd they're really creepy I'm sorry

Jessamyn 28:53 I didn't see them I just kind of read people debating so

mathowie 28:56 anyways, back to the fish guy. He did a leak fast and it was leaking and apparently it all the leaked out there was no intruder oh we thought there was an intruder because he thought that everything was out of position in the house. Yeah, yeah, so sounds like the dead fish just leaked out.

Jessamyn 29:22 How Oh, so other good threads and AskMe Metafilter scruffs helped me find awesome places to stay which I like to fit in was a follow up to the helped me find an awesome place to stay and Halifax question I asked a little bit earlier, because I asked

mathowie 29:41 Oh, he just met anywhere in the world.

Jessamyn 29:45 Yeah, well, I got the really good advice to go stay in this place called the train station in which was just north of Halifax from who was it? Oh, Lazo Lou was Oh yeah, and The train station and where you can stay in a caboose Have I mentioned this I'm really excited about staying in

but but then scrapped basically posted like look, I would you know go on a destination vacation to stay in a place like that where some cool places that I really cool and it just there's a lot of

mathowie 30:20 unique the library Hotel in New York. Yeah you have I stayed there a couple of years ago it was fun quirky

Jessamyn 30:28 Was it cool besides

mathowie 30:31 teeny tiny New York room which is normal. Which is why is like Dewey Decimal is your room number. So I think I was staying in the arts 700 something and I think I got all belay books. And like operable walls, like sounds like the someone had like mystery room and they had awesome books. So

Jessamyn 30:55 Well, I think that's where Jeffrey Zeldman took his I think Is he married a librarian, and they they did NYPL like, user experience stuff for a long

mathowie 31:06 honeymoon in New York. For New Yorkers. It's shady down to that. Yeah, that that trailer park like a bunch of old Airstream trailers in Arizona. It's famous now that you rent a night in an old trailer. Oh, nice. Like I've always, you know, fantasize about having some Airstream trailer, you know, be nice. I didn't know the tree resort. Where's that app? Someone told me about tree houses and holy shit. It's an Oregon saw that and

Jessamyn 31:41 it's frickin beautiful. And those places are a nice, be they don't cost any more than staying in the dam. In Nova Scotia. They're not that expensive. And they're beautiful. Beautiful.

mathowie 31:54 Is cave junction, Oregon. Oh, I'm zooming maps, right? Whatever. glorious man. Shit. It's done by the California border. Six hours away from me.

Jessamyn 32:10 You go down to California sometimes so you could make it a stop. That's pretty

mathowie 32:13 fucking cool. I've heard of awesome tree houses in Maui. I think there's some sort of secret hotel that's in the trees. That's super hard to get into because there's a few places to stay in the trees. The Caboose because this thing makes me crack up because there's a train hotel somewhere in Mount Shasta. And the last time my wife's parents or mom came up she drove I think from Cal Southern California up and she stayed in this train town. And she wouldn't shut up about the dam. She slept in the caboose. That was like the best room. She wouldn't shut up in the whole trip. Anyone we walked by in the streets? Right? Like you'd be like, Okay, I'm gonna go park the car and then I'll meet you and we'll go into the breakfast place and you come around the corner and you still like her talking to someone with a dog? Like, no, no say no can booth like it came up like 10 times in a weekend.

Jessamyn 33:11 See the best place about the best thing about this train hotel is that it's all cabooses all the train rooms are useless. So you don't have to be like you get the caboose or one of the crappy rooms. I promise to keep my mouth shut. I'm just happy to stay in, you know? And my sister was stoked, right? Because I was like, I have a secret. Do you want to know the secret? She's like, What the fuck?

mathowie 33:35 You can stay late house Holy shit. That's another like that's like racecar beds for adults. So when I was a kid, whenever that department store anything to do with a bed, there was always a race car bed for sale. I always wanted a race car bed mom and be like, No, it's crazy. Wow, they spend 500 bucks for some dumbass thing in your room. Like, paint on it and wheels. And I was always like, I want to raise our bed. So these are racecar beds for adults like quirky things you get to like stay in for a night.

Jessamyn 34:09 Right? Well because hotels. I don't know. I mean, even really nice hotel is still just a box with a bathroom in it. You know? I think so. Staying in a place it's

mathowie 34:20 house and Richmond. I just heard of an underwater hotel in the San Francisco Bay Area and I don't see it listed here. I can't remember the name of it was it was like It's like on a pier. And I think some of the rooms are below water. Like sort of Windows

Jessamyn 34:36 went that would totally freak that would freak me out.

mathowie 34:39 It marked a whole bunch of useful things online resources for bike maintenance was just plain useful.

Jessamyn 34:48 Oh, yeah, yeah, no.

mathowie 34:50 Porn I thought was awesome.

Jessamyn 34:53 Oh, prove that or was that just a regular question

mathowie 34:56 regular Oh noes anonymous. Yeah, I

Jessamyn 35:02 did people have,

mathowie 35:03 there wasn't really a good answer. Except for like Flickr, you can find boobie shots that are Creative Commons licensed.

Jessamyn 35:12 Do it every now and again, I'm looking at Flickr and like, oh, this person when you see those like other pictures, I just see some like totally crazy raunchy stuff. And by the time you click through like, it's gone, because people are, you know, changing it to private or whatever. SafeSearch

mathowie 35:27 drops out of safe like the moment someone says this is probably objectionable. Right, so this person wanted just images. So that's why I know videos. I was like, Is there any creative commons porn video, like actual porn, but this person just wanted the images for something creative with some sort of side discussion about our obscenity laws in America and if things comply

Jessamyn 35:56 18 or over? Yeah, they started talking about two to seven laws, or two to five. So

mathowie 36:09 this other one on making the DVD play one frame a minute, it's kind of cool just slideshow, essentially, I thought that would be easy to be like an iMovie, you could just while the old version iMovie had timelines, you just pull in an image from iPhoto and stretch it to a minute and then just keep doing that. I think that would be pretty easy to make a DVD at the end.

Jessamyn 36:31 You have the new iMovie I heard the new iMovie is horrible. We talked

mathowie 36:34 about that. On my blog. I have it I like it, it's great.

Jessamyn 36:39 But I heard it doesn't do all the other things that we used to do that.

mathowie 36:42 Well, the whole point of it was that there's never been a there's a digital camera revolution, right? Like everyone has a digital camera, it's really easy to just upload them somewhere. It's easy. Put them on the web. Everyone has a video camera, but there's no revolution of video. There's YouTube and stuff, but a real pain in the ass for normal people. It isn't like, you know, it's not like everyone you know, has a video camera and is uploaded something to YouTube. It's hard. It takes a lot of editing time. So Apple completely redid iMovie from the ground up thinking, how do we make it as fast and as easy as possible for someone to pull in like 10 clips they made today into one like movie. And it's great, but that's all Yeah, that's totally fine. If you want to, like do real movie stuff, go get a real movie app is I think what they're saying this is really like it proud. It feels like the software that came with your camera, kind of like here's everything you record today. And you just go poop and you make a video like, like, it's that video I made of walking around the garden like I was done in 10 minutes. And I watched it and I cut out like, I was like, oh, I should edit down a bunch of the shaky camera shots. And I spent another 10 minutes editing and I was done. And when I got home with a camera I was dreading like hours of like jump cuts and keyframes and timelines and music levels and all that shit.

Jessamyn 38:13 Music levels I heard you camp more than like one song with your videos. I guess maybe it

mathowie 38:19 used to be like an audio app at the same time the Bose super I thought it was super confusing. Before it was really hard. You had to jump into audio version and you could cut in it. Now it's it's like it's like I thought of it just happy fun. You just grabbed four things, you slide them over here and you made a movie. And you can Yeah, and you're taught it and stuff. It's so it's amazing for editing, it's so fast. It doesn't when you when you record 20 minutes of video and you go home, it's not two hours of work. Like it's not guaranteed two hours of work like it used to be to me short film, you know, to show your friends that you went somewhere. So that was good.

Jessamyn 39:03 Here's another Well, there's two other posts that I really liked. One of them just because it had a lot of really interesting discussion was the children and funerals post. Like a woman and or her husband. There was a death in the family. They've got a two year old, maybe and trying to figure out like a couple things like you know, should I bring the two year old to the funeral? Is it going to be really upsetting is having the two year old they're inappropriate? You know, maybe I want to leave her at home maybe I'll bring her with Babysitting is complicated. And there was just a lot of different people. I mean, you know, funerals are a really cultural thing. And there was a lot of really good perspective including cold chef talking to you know, he's kind of like a Twitter stream which just talks about funerals all day

mathowie 39:44 long. No, I've seen it I found this weird grave sites and stuff.

Jessamyn 39:52 Yeah, so you know, I don't know if greats the right word, but I really enjoy it. But yeah, just a lot of people talking about different things. Of course bring them Oh, please don't bring them bring them but prepare to leave bring them with you, but don't bring them to the funeral or the, you know,

mathowie 40:08 dead person under would be oblivious to it and this person's asking. She's so young that she'd be oblivious. It seems like she well,

Jessamyn 40:17 she's really kind of asking like, is she going to be disturbed? You know, is this going to scar her for life?

mathowie 40:22 To even remember, but um, my daughter like gets key like, doesn't like watching people cry other kids cry she hates so she would be weirded out by it. But I think it's Yeah, yeah. Stop crying. But you mentioned a good point in your answer that it would give people something else to focus on.

Jessamyn 40:46 Because I think people like kids. Yeah. And people, families, some families don't get together that often.

mathowie 40:51 And I don't think it would be like, appropriate like running around laughing during the funeral, I don't think would happen, she'd probably be toned down because of everybody

Jessamyn 41:00 else's Right. Or you take them outside or down tour for a walk or whatever.

mathowie 41:04 I think the first funeral I went to I was seven. And it was just it was an awful

Jessamyn 41:10 Well, besides my grandfather's funeral, which I went to when I was two or three, I think the next funeral I went to I was 20. Well, yeah, I

mathowie 41:17 went to this, I mean, to me, like a great grandmother's at seven. And you know, when someone's like, 94, it's like, I don't know, everyone gets closure in those last 15 years after everything after 80 is gravy, right? And, and you're like, assume every day that you're gonna get a phone call and they're dead. And they had a great life. You know, it's nothing to be too sad about. So I was 94 Wait. I was like, Well, you know, it was she was really old. And she was fun. But, yeah, like, not a big deal.

Jessamyn 41:51 But it wasn't that you weren't worried? Like, Mom Get it up? Is dad gonna die?

mathowie 41:56 I probably had to confront that when like cats died or something. That's the only time I had my mortality.

Jessamyn 42:02 Yeah, I mean, we grew up with pets too. And so, you know, they die all the time. I mean, you have like, three cats, a dog, a guinea pig, a lizard. You know, somebody's always dying or sick or a baby or

mathowie 42:15 mortality, anxiety until I was like 20, or something when you stop being a teenager, I think is officially when I realized I wasn't invincible. And I was like,

Jessamyn 42:26 I had like an ex boyfriend in high school who like dropped dead have spinal meningitis or something like that. And, and so I think for a lot of us in high school, we were all like a, what, you know, we don't get sick. What are you talking about? And so it was very, I think that was the sort of kick in the head time. And then yeah, college is when like, everybody's making stupid decisions.

mathowie 42:47 And also, you'll always hear, right, like, like, first two years of your college you hear like, oh, yeah, you know, Becky, prom queen was killed in a motorcycle accident the other day, you know, when you go back home and talk to your parents or something like like, right? That's all they tell you. Like two or three people died from my high school within a couple of years. And then I was like, what? Like, I'm 19 I'm in the top shape my life. They're dead. That's crazy.

Jessamyn 43:14 Right? Doesn't work. No.

mathowie 43:17 Or any other. Any other wacky are great. There's a lot of anonymous stuff in the highest most favorites.

Jessamyn 43:25 Yeah, well, there's been a lot of like, good anonymous questions, I think. I mean, you know, some of the anonymous questions or just people asking like a kind of specific personal I don't want this to be associated with me, but some of them are just like, I was always curious, how do male porn stars, you know? There's, I think a lot of people are like, I was always wondering that too. And they become these really good questions, because they get a lot of good feedback. And people are really interested in them. And you know, you can link to the straight top 50% of the time. And so if you thought about your side,

mathowie 43:57 I don't know, maybe I'll just play the theme song in reverse. I don't know.

Jessamyn 44:04 Well, it's on it's on the filter music. Oh, so once the bridge saying

mathowie 44:10 that we only gotten four or five. Total probably.

Jessamyn 44:17 Really, okay. For the month of August, musicians are challenged to do a song that speaks to that theme, the theme of courage. And maybe we'll play a couple we'll find a couple to put to put

mathowie 44:30 Oh, and next time I have to announce pre announced the day before that. Hey, we should take more phone calls. So yeah, call that number again. And I should probably put that number on the sidebar of the podcast page.

Jessamyn 44:42 I had a totally fun time. Taking calls incidentally. Oh, we should put this song on the on one of the sides because it's this amazing song. Hold on. Let me find the window.

mathowie 44:55 Yeah, it got like

Jessamyn 44:57 it got like a mess of favorites. Is this beautiful? acoustic song from from L n. And I think I found it because you know it has the word Halifax in it, but really it was just a really good, a really good song by a fairly new very new member actually.

mathowie 45:14 Ooh, acapella. But it's

Jessamyn 45:16 a beautiful, beautiful song. Yeah.

mathowie 45:20 Stupid, probably sound issues. I'll check it out.

Jessamyn 45:29 But it's a person, I assume her name is Ellen. And she's got an amazing voice and the song is beautiful. And 11 people marked it as a favorite, which has to be some kind of record for netfilter. Yeah, this week for something not by cortex.

mathowie 45:43 And it's not metadata related as an in joke or something. Right. Right. And by so yeah, next time, more phone calls. Surprise. We're gonna talk to ya maybe next time. And I'll come up with an Indian of some sort. Every idea was silly and goofball,

Jessamyn 46:07 dude, you should totally just patch it in. Like what you should just end this whenever you want to end it. And then like, have some totally like, tacked on like, over produce?

mathowie 46:23 Yeah, I'm just gonna play the thing and even reverse the cop out. I think that's I don't want to produce. You know, I was listening to podcasts that are way more produced than this the sound way better. And it's like they have little bumpers and they have little. They have sign ons and sign offs. They're all their trademarks that I find that

Jessamyn 46:44 that takes like 16 minutes of talking and drives it up to 30 minutes. Well, it probably

mathowie 46:48 really only adds a minute on each end, but it's annoying. Like when I go to even my favorite podcasts. I know exactly. On that one. I go to 45 seconds I started when they actually come on and start talking. You can just make iTunes. Skip the first Yeah, so essentially, those are worthless, although they make it sound like a professional show. So that's not what we want.

Jessamyn 47:11 What's the benefit to being professional?

mathowie 47:13 You can't change Comic Sans when you want.

Jessamyn 47:18 Try that. Delicious.