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A transcript for Episode 143: Sisters, Am I Right? (2018-08-02.)

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Unknown Speaker 0:00 A couple of things you

Jessamyn 0:25 so Hey, you want to get started on?

Cortex 0:28 Hey, welcome to episode 143 of Best of the web, the Metafilter monthly podcast. I am Josh cortex Mullard. Hey, hey,

Jessamyn 0:39 hey. I'm Jasmine.

Cortex 0:42 And and here we are doing a podcast with a thing reasons a new software seeing how that goes. It should be basically indistinguishable for everyone listening. Bless your heart. Whether whether it was we'll see what happens.

Jessamyn 0:56 Jasmine's constant complaining about it.

Cortex 0:58 Well, yeah, but like, in principle, we could just be doing some like long haul joke all podcast long about, about how we're totally using some software.

Jessamyn 1:09 I barely can keep track of short haul jokes. To be honest. I make you explain jokes to me to be

Cortex 1:16 the longest haul of all, you could actually literally be Andy Kaufman, for all I know, this is like a years long project,

Jessamyn 1:22 right? And it's all just Josh explains jokes to me, but I honestly get them.

Cortex 1:31 It is August the first we're actually recording at the top of the month and we put it out today, but there's a chance. I've been working evenings. So like having some time to feel to edit the podcast is now a better fit for my shift than it traditionally has been. And

Jessamyn 1:47 I've been working for a couple days filming for whoever is on vacation. So I've

Cortex 1:52 been on vacation. So you do have few shifts and a

Jessamyn 1:56 little bit more plugged into the site than usual. It's been fun. And you have a 130 43 bit of information.

Cortex 2:03 Oh, tell me, tell me about 143

Jessamyn 2:05 Wow, you know, all these numbers are getting pretty dull, right? But 143 has to

Cortex 2:10 be to make a rule where we can't say they're getting double. We just have to say the interesting thing or not discuss it. I feel like there's like a long running marriage that's gone well past its prime pot

Jessamyn 2:24 where the lock horns, the lock horns. You always so but 143 on Mr. Rogers Neighborhood stands for I love you because one stands for i which is one letter for for love, which is four letters, and three, which is you for three letters. So 143 is I love you. And reportedly, I'm reading for Wikipedia here. Mr. Rogers kept his weight at 143 pounds for the last 30 years of his life. And I knew that he was kind of like a weight control guy, because he didn't want kids to see him change, which was both like kind of cool and kind of weird. I mean, I'm an auntie Mr. Rogers, but I always found that interesting. And he always associated the number with the phrase, I love you. So this is the I love your podcast.

Cortex 3:11 It's so nice. It's so nice to hear about a number that is a secret code for something. That's not not the bullshit. It's a real relief.

Jessamyn 3:21 No, yeah, yeah. No, I'm right with you. How many numbers have the Nazis ruined at this point?

Cortex 3:26 Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, took that into the Nazi direction for a second. Mr. Rogers? Yes. Yeah. And he would do stuff like, like, keep set stuff and wardrobe stuff really consistent. So someone was just talking about this recently, so that like, if you needed to go reshoot a segment to modernize it, because like, times had changed, and something was sort of, like, faded not really fitting. Right, right. I can just like redo it. That's, that's, that's some serious, like, ideological production style. Like, I appreciate that, that whole thing. But yeah, I mean, which is, which is the same thing with a podcast this is this is why it's always just like, you know, we're using these carefully developed vocal synthesizers instead of our real voices. So if we need to go back and change the podcast 10 years later, we can just plug it in. I don't know where I'm going with this.

Jessamyn 4:18 I was gonna say I I'm there hoping but yeah, I

Cortex 4:22 had the idea but I didn't have the material. I had nothing to actually go with on that.

Jessamyn 4:27 Well, it's a little early for me not like it's early in the day compared to late in the day.

Cortex 4:32 Ya know, it's we're recording this. It's a little bit after eight Pacific Time. 1130 here now. Now now that now that I'm working evening shifts, I don't need to get up early. So my alarm is off most of time, but it's still set for like 10 minutes before seven. So when I do need to get up I can and I got up this morning and pay myself a nice stiff cup of coffee and I've got some energy and we're not going to have one of those. Oh, why did we do this? So early episodes.

Jessamyn 4:56 Good. Well, and I wake up at seven now for no reason and I It's weird for me like I had a phone meeting at 930. And I set my alarm just hoping maybe this would be the day I would get a lot of sleep. I don't know what it is. It's like summer. It's

Cortex 5:10 just happening. Yeah. I mean, there's that whole sunlight thing.

Jessamyn 5:14 I slipped with a hat that I pulled down over my eyes. I do not have a problem with

Cortex 5:19 your internal or internal clocks just

Jessamyn 5:22 Yeah, and I don't mind. Just go to bed earlier and wake up earlier. It's not like I'm not getting any sleep. It just all of a sudden you wake up at seven now. Okay. I don't even hate it. I was up to an errand. It's so crazy. I used to set my alarm for an 11 o'clock podcast, Josh.

Cortex 5:38 I've never I've never really understood the sleeping late thing like I can in principle sleep in and maybe it'll change as the days get shorter. And it's not bright in the morning. But I think to some extent we have we have one of our cats. has become is it. Noisy cat? Yeah. Boaty McBoatface, who is the most wonderful cat in the world? except occasionally just absolutely frustrating. And mostly it's when it's sleeping time and she wants to meow at us. Sure. And we're getting better at just sort of like ignoring it. And instead of like responding to it, which we're hoping will get her to stop trying so hard. Nothing that might be working a bit. But yeah, between the sun coming up early in the cat not shutting the fuck up. Sometimes it's like, okay, well, sleeping in is. Well, I

Jessamyn 6:20 guess it's morning now. Yeah,

Cortex 6:22 I mean, one of us can say if if I get up or if Angela gets up, Bodie will shut the fuck up and just go hang out with whoever's up. But like, if we're both still in bed, like she'll come back. Everyone's wanting to go. Hey, are you sure you don't want to get up? I mean, I'm awake. And it's like, a cat. I don't know. We got to talk about this.

Jessamyn 6:38 You got to sleep with the door open, so she'd go in and out. Yeah, if

Cortex 6:41 we if we slept with the door closed, she would sit outside of the whole night. Mm hmm. Whereas with an open she wanders in meals for a while and then gives up and then maybe tries again later. Hmm. It's cats, man.

Jessamyn 6:56 Well, my sister's got a bunch of cats. And I'm always fascinated at you know, how much you can maybe do with them? And then how much you can just maybe not do with them?

Cortex 7:06 Yep. It depends a lot on the cat and Bodie is pretty great. So we're done with it. But But come on cat, you're so close to being perfect. And instead you're very, very not perfect. Should we talk about stuff on medical tour? I guess we could do that we could about the old jobs.

Jessamyn 7:26 I would like to yeah, there's a fascinating job. It's it's almost not even a job as much as it is. I don't even know what the word is opportunity. But violet blue is doing a thing. Trying to find professional women between 30 and 45 who have experienced hiring discrimination maybe because of their age. She's writing an article this was a couple of weeks ago so I don't know if it's still good but you should contact her but basically asking hey were you like looking for a job and you know stuff kind of got weird and maybe you think it's because your woman let her know

Cortex 8:08 so good can come up but like in context and start writing our goal we should be clear that this violet blue is not that violet blue with her two different violet blues.

Jessamyn 8:17 Oh right. Yeah, yeah, I keep forgetting about the other violet blue. This is our violet blue not what boys violet blue or Yeah.

Cortex 8:24 Or formerly that whole fucking thing. God was that like 10 years ago now

Jessamyn 8:30 I think because I know exactly what you're talking about. But for the for the

Cortex 8:36 probably don't have to make but just for the sake of

Jessamyn 8:40 me five zone. violet blue. Yes.

Cortex 8:44 Pretty nice. And yeah, there's a front end thing Pyro 979 is looking for a front end developer and Plainsboro, New Jersey. So you know, if you're in the New Jersey area, or want to be

Jessamyn 9:02 Oh, did I not put that in the link thing?

Cortex 9:04 You didn't but that's okay. This is that exciting podcast stuff we're talking about? And, and yes, Andrew J Energen. is looking for editors for an ongoing writing project. I think that's

Jessamyn 9:18 well, writing project is like helping people make their resumes pop, which I know we've got some who that's, that's their jam. So if that's still a thing, then check

Cortex 9:31 it out. Yes. That's jobs

Jessamyn 9:34 and jobs, see results.

Cortex 9:37 Talk about projects. Wow projects.

Jessamyn 9:40 One of my favorite things just in general on the internet not I don't know favorite thing I've really enjoyed over the last couple months is que Omar has got a new project. And he makes tiny skulls. And I see these a lot of scooting through malt shop. Yeah, but now He's actually sort of promoting it actively not only on projects, but then knock the water, posted it to metal filter, he makes these little skulls, which are slightly Neil Kinnock. Like they've got slightly big eyes. And they're small and cute kind of. And so not only is he sculpting these little skulls, but then he leaves them around where he lives, which I think is New Orleans and leaves little clues about where they could be and then other people go and find out. So check out the pictures. They're adorable. And then yeah, you can see the you can see the flicker the Flickr group. Yeah. I don't know why I wasn't following him on Flickr, I kind of feel like maybe he's got a different different account than the one I knew. It's awesome. So

Cortex 10:50 I think to Flickr for the first time in a while, for a couple meetups we had recently and I saw them. Yeah, so I'm gonna try and maybe do a little bit more of that. But I think since SmugMug,

Jessamyn 11:03 bought Flickr, Flickr may be worthwhile, you know, engaging and interacting with I'll go there more often. And like things and upload things and whatever. So yeah, try it.

Cortex 11:14 Yeah, I think I think I think I'm at work on that. Because I haven't really had like a photo place online. I've got like, you know, stuff on Instagram stuff on Twitter, but they both feel a little bit in passing, you know,

Jessamyn 11:26 well, and I just have, again, like, this may be a theme for this podcast, but like, Instagram bothers me. Like, I enjoy my friends that are there. And I love looking at people's pictures. But the fact that there's some algo that's determining how I see the things and there's a lot of ads just means that it would never be kind of my number one go to place. Even though I love seeing my friends stuff, but I it's very hard for me to keep up with in the proper way. And ads, lots of ads.

Cortex 11:59 Yep. Yeah, no, it's frustrating that it is, as with so much other sort of mega corporate social media at this point, like, just a you are gonna get what you get surface rather than a you get what you want. And what the long term thing on that is, I don't know if people are just gonna, like, get super accustomed to that because there hasn't really been a good choice or if there's going to be a proper backlash, or someone's going to manage to eat their lunch by saying, Oh, hey, you want something that works? Here you go. It's, it's it's weird trying to sort of predict how a great big pile of money is going to do against someone doing a better job?

Jessamyn 12:34 Well, and I always just think when I think about Instagram, it's like, it's just not for me, you know, like, it's not designed for people like me, in a general sense, like, I'm not their target demo, which means that a lot of the decisions they make seem mysterious or strange, partly because I'm just not even the kind of person they're looking for, you know, whereas with Flickr, I always felt at least a little bit. People like me, were at least sort of who they were trying to get with. And it was funny actually on Flickr, I had a, you know how Flickr has like Flickr explorer, where it's like, here's, you know, a whole bunch of algo chosen pictures every day. And then they direct you to it. So if you want to know kind of what's what Flickr is about. You can see those pictures, and usually it's a thing for fancy people, but I had like this ridiculous picture that I took over dinner with Jim where we were playing Hanged Man, and the clue was on board, which again, my life lately, but for whatever reason, it went to Flickr Explorer, and then like 3000 people saw it, which just made me laugh. And I was like, Oh, right. You know, Flickr is actually kind of for people like me, there's a spider on me.

Cortex 13:51 Oh, no. I mean, oh, yes. I don't I don't know how you feel about the spider situation.

Jessamyn 13:55 I mean, it's not the worst, but I prefer it like someone feels like it's creeping on me, which is good news. If it's a spider and bad news, if I'm having some sort of neurological problem so yeah, let's hope for spider show.

Cortex 14:07 Let's assume spider you live in sort of like, are you in Vermont right now though? Or no,

Jessamyn 14:10 no, I'm down in Massachusetts down in Westport.

Cortex 14:14 A spider replace?

Jessamyn 14:15 No, I totally am. This house is like spider Central.

Cortex 14:18 I guess it's just there's room for more spiders there really?

Jessamyn 14:20 There's room for more spiders. And there's lots and lots of corners that I just don't pay any attention to. And I don't care like spiders are fine. They eat bugs. But every now and again they climb on your ear and they're like, Yeah,

Cortex 14:32 that's not great. I have some boundaries.

Jessamyn 14:40 Maybe they're cracker crumbs. I don't know what's going on. Okay.

Cortex 14:44 It's a sensory extravaganza. I liked this EP from Nika spark actually mentioned one of the songs off this last last last episode featured on it. But here's the whole EP, four songs and they are good and you should go listen to them.

Jessamyn 15:00 Yeah, I am I saw mica Spark, I saw this which I liked. And I also saw Nika Spark, in another projects thing, and you know, I always appreciate when people are not only posting their own projects, but they're in other people's projects. And so lucky nerd, had a husband who committed suicide several years ago, and she had talked about it on the site. So I was sort of familiar with the situation. And, you know, she's in a pretty good place now, and finally just decided she was going to like write the guy letter. And you know, they had a very sort of tumultuous relationship in a lot of ways. And so, you know, this, this letter that she wrote, which was just kind of a one off on her blog is just a really kind of thoughtful, sentimental, thinkI thing. And it turns out that she's on a mailing list with Nikka spark. And so that was just kind of a neat little Kismet thing that I saw somewhere else on projects.

Cortex 16:02 There's also extreme meat punks forever, which I have been delighted to poke at, have not had a chance to like play through it. But this is from Breck who has been doing a lot of cool game stuff. And

Jessamyn 16:15 I wasn't sure what this is. It's

Cortex 16:20 kind of I mean, visual novels, the right word, and that's what the Breck uses. But basically, it's a storytelling game where you go and have conversations and also get in meat bag, mech battles. And that sort of, it's, it's hard to explain it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a great little thing, it's a very, it's very, its own aesthetic, sort of a little thing,

Jessamyn 16:48 but a disasters was where I got confused.

Cortex 16:53 And like it a this is queer literature sort of sense. Just a bunch of people going around the havin kind of time they're having living their life in this meat punk universe, and you know, having conversations and be in a mess, and also getting in mech fights. I don't know if there's a way I can, like, convey this success. I'm just delighted by it. It's, it's fun, interesting. Got a great look, ya know, the art is fantastic. The writing is fun, it's good. It's a weird thing, go play it basically, it's my whole take on it. Cool. But it's kind of like a download. thing. So it's, it's, you know, a little bit investment. But I also liked the opposite of forecasting from low note, this is

Jessamyn 17:45 back casting.

Cortex 17:52 Casting, maybe, maybe, casting? No, it's, it's, it's a piece of music, they recorded a bunch of stuff. And then it's modified in real time. Like, it's basically a looping piece of music, but then the pieces are modified in real time, according to weather data in Austin. So I love it into it, it changes the sound of pieces as it goes along. So if you check in at different times of the day, different times of year, there'll be the same piece underneath, but it'll sound different. And that's super rad thing to do. Well,

Jessamyn 18:26 and Moonmilk points out that it is reminiscent of young marble giants who is maybe one of my favorite bands. So that's a very Thumbs Up B. Yeah, thing from my perspective, because there to be some fans.

Cortex 19:20 What else was there? There's there's been some nice stuff on projects. And you know, I made a big metal talk post, and I'll take that out. But basically saying, hey, projects is good. And let's be clear that it's okay to post stuff on projects that aren't necessarily huge projects, because that's been kind of an ongoing thing. A point of confusion for some people, where people like, oh, well, I made this thing or I'm working on this thing. But the text of the page kind of says this is for like a big completed project. And this is a work in progress or it's not

Jessamyn 19:49 that when you are clarifying and basically saying,

Cortex 19:52 yeah, basically saying, hey, you know, projects are nice. I like seeing what people are working on and it doesn't need to be a huge thing. It doesn't need to be a big finished thing you could have a work in progress, you could be trying to figure out where to go with something you could have, you know, a good essay that you wrote that is basically just a blog post, but it's a good one, you know, and you know, you shouldn't like post just like, here's the sandwich I ate every month,

Jessamyn 20:14 as I don't know. Unless, yeah, mostly sandwich project.

Cortex 20:17 Yeah. I mean, if you if you put, put some guts into it, that's actually okay. You know. And that's basically what he's trying to get as, like, hey, you know, I want to see people saying, Hey, here's the thing I made, or here's the thing I'm making, and you know, what that thing is and what shape it's in and what it consists of, can be pretty variable. You know, it doesn't need to just be like, here's my brand. I wrote a book. Yeah, I wrote a book is a pretty reasonable project to share. You know, like, ideally, there's something to look but

Jessamyn 20:44 it could be I wrote a chapter or it could be I made a little game.

Cortex 20:49 Yeah. Yeah. Or, hey, the thing is half finished and broken and I want some feedback. You know, these, these things would be okay, so I'm trying to sort of push on a little bit. It felt it was nice. It felt like a bunch of people are like, Oh, well, I guess I can put some projects, right. Good. Metadata.

Jessamyn 21:03 Remember what it was a mailing list by Kindle? Yep. I love a stinky

Cortex 21:06 do. I love it. Cheers, Jerry.

Jessamyn 21:09 Cheers Jerry.

Cortex 21:12 I also like this Brexit meal kits thing that Adrian hon. did.

Jessamyn 21:17 I didn't see this. So I'm a big fan of basically everything Adrian Han does.

Cortex 21:21 Yep. It's It's It's clever the way you would expect it to be. He did a good job. So yes.

Jessamyn 21:31 Oh, I love it. I'm just looking at it. Oh, that is a meat pie. Ooh, Pot Noodle. Oh, Weetabix on the go? Oh, French chips. All right. Good. Luck. There's

Cortex 21:42 a bunch more stuff. Go look at projects, people are posting cool things that they made. And well, I post your cool thing to project also do that. Do both of those things. Go look and go do.

Jessamyn 21:53 Josh Oh, did you post your thing I saw that you were at a craft fair.

Cortex 21:59 Oh, I was at a craft fair. I didn't like post a thing thing. I mean, I mean, it asked me about it. I guess like

Jessamyn 22:03 physician heal thyself.

Cortex 22:05 I know, know what? I've been busy. I admit that, to some extent. In the last few days, I've been busy with video games, because I've really not been playing video games for a while and had a little bit of window to begin on it. But also just like, the craft fair thing. It's funny. So like, I've been doing those geometric tiles, and the craft fair was fun and interesting and educational, and tiring, and all sorts of things. And it was like very just

Jessamyn 22:28 one of those supposedly fun things you'll never do. Again, basically, supposedly,

Cortex 22:31 something I may will do. Again, I'll do it slightly better next time. I'll know a little bit more about like, what to expect and etc. But all in all, it was fine. And it was low cost, it was just mostly the effort of going and doing they're doing it that was like the investment. It was nice time me and Secretary both hung around and sold a few kits. But but my geometric tile kits. There's also like a certain amount of turnaround time and getting them made. And so like I keep wanting to not like push the store again until like, I actually have time to work on that. And August, I'm gone for like the second half of August, I'm going to be on the other side of the country. And so I go, Where are you going?

Jessamyn 23:09 That's my side of the country.

Cortex 23:10 I know I'm going to we're going to Maine again, like we do every summer now it turns out it's a whole thing. Family so but like, you know, I won't be anywhere near my laser cutter. So like, I kind of want to like and you

Jessamyn 23:22 can't just like set it and forget it. Right?

Cortex 23:24 Yeah, it doesn't work that way. Definitely be there for it. So like, like, there's all sorts of stuff that I could do that be good for like sort of upping the visibility that which I kind of don't want to do because I don't want to be like hey, go look at my thing. And also I'm shutting the store down for a month because I can't do anything. I gotta you know, maybe I'll get I'll get there in September. But I will follow up in my ask me because I did ask for advice on vending and got a bunch of really good answers. And there we'll get there. The mugs. Oh, and the mugs. The mugs. Yes,

Jessamyn 23:50 they sold out. You're printing more of them. Yes. Yep.

Cortex 23:53 I'm gonna sneeze here. Because I'm tight. It faked me out. Why? There we go. That's the stuff. Yeah. Where's that? Where's that post about the mugs? Mugs? Mugs. All right. That's this workflow. It's it's sneezing. Yeah, we made some mugs. Some nice big blue mugs. And yeah, the factory is out of those mugs, because we sold out the initial order and they put in a reorder and then I guess the factory is like, Oh, actually, you know, we don't have those around right now. So hold on. So I thought it's silly, but hey, merch, it's an exciting adventure. And

Jessamyn 24:35 Princeton. I always think when I see the big blue mug out here between sort of Massachusetts and Rhode Island where I am for the summer, there's this giant insect on the side of the road. And it's basically the big blue bug. I don't know if you know this big blue. No, this big, giant and it's right on the side of the highway. And so you drive by and you totally see it. And you know, they're their big blue bug on Twitter and they got a website and they've got a walk around bug. That's hilarious nibbles wood away is the name of the character. So every time you say big blue mug, it makes me think of big blue book and I smile. So that is another side side benefit. That's excellent. It is excellent.

Cortex 25:28 I'm gonna mention one more project, I guess. Because this way, I'm not technically mentioning my post, because my post is just a post of this project. I think I've already made that post. It's not what happened. I'm now I'm trying to remember. Anyway, like, I know it's the coffee is working, but it's may not be entirely working for me. Ring level, Moonmilk did something awesome. They made a 44 yard long, 40 meter long tapestry of the content of a slug degraded copy of the audio of the Voyager Golden.

Jessamyn 26:05 Oh my god. Fucking I mean, I'm a huge fan of everything Moonmilk does, generally speaking, but my word.

Unknown Speaker 26:12 Yeah.

Jessamyn 26:15 It's really wow. Now I have questions.

Cortex 26:18 Oh, there's a post about it. So some of them may be answered. But yeah. It's pretty neat. It's pretty darn neat. And yes. Wow.

Jessamyn 26:33 Yeah, sorry. I'm reading this thread. I have questions. Yeah.

Cortex 26:37 I mean, it's cool. Because like, they grabbed like a, like, second third generation, who knows copy of the audio, like, you know, there's the actual audio. And then there's the record of the audio. And then there's a recording of the audio that went on the record. And then there's someone makes a copy, and so makes a copy. And they grabbed something random off YouTube, basically. So who knows? It's like cassette generations? Like it's not quite right. So the tapestry not only encodes the audio, but also encodes sort of like the damage to the signal by the time it got to the version they had, which I think I love to add that much more interesting, especially if you think you know, if we're talking about putting something out there into outer space, and who knows, when some will find it, some degradation of the signal is entirely possible. What if the record gets a little bit warped? What if something what what if it crashes into something? So yeah,

Jessamyn 27:23 well, and this brings me to, you know, something, God Almighty, I should probably put this in a project since you said all sorts of crazy shit should be in projects nowadays. But I, something has happened. This is just my tweet stream about going to see America's longest painting.

Cortex 27:45 I did not see this,

Jessamyn 27:48 you must have seen part of this, I feel like I interacted with you on part of this. At any rate, America's longest painting is in New Bedford now, and it is a quarter of a mile long. And it originally was supposed to be a scrolling, like you sat there and it's scrolled by you in the 18th. I don't know 50s. And then you would kind of learn what a whaling voyage was like. And then this thing has just been in a basement of the whaling Museum in New Bedford for ever, and they got a ton of money to restore it. And now it's up in a mill building, basically, in South New Bedford. And you can look at this quarter mile painting, walking up and down the aisles. And then there's a whole bunch of context. But I've turned into like my thing this month, where like, I've looked at the painting, and I've read books about the painting Yesterday, I went to the library to get a VHS tape of the last time that painting was shown in public in 1964. To like, go watch that which was its own, like funny little headache, where I got to play it on a videotape machine in a library, because that's the only way I could watch it, you know. And so at any rate, I really probably should find some way to write this all up and post it to projects because it was fascinating. And it's just this public art thing that like, for whatever reason, because it's on the ass and of New Bedford, and it's summertime, and everybody's doing something else. You can like, have a bunch of time just yourself with this painting. This huge, beautiful space. And yeah, it's really cool. And Moon milks thing made me think of it because they're not dissimilar in certain ways. With metal filter, I should. Oh, yeah, it does. I made a post on Metafilter about it. I knew there was a metaphor to tie it.

Cortex 29:34 Let's talk about let's talk about Metafilter for Christ's sake.

Jessamyn 29:37 All right. So yes, I made a post on Metafilter as part of when I was first getting jazzed about this before I had even seen it. And then that kind of encouraged me to do more.

Cortex 29:52 All right. Yeah. No, you should follow that up. Yeah. My my time with the longest painting.

Jessamyn 29:58 Yep, North America as long as painting

Cortex 30:01 Well, let's talk about what else is on Metafilter besides posted inspired to go to museums, all right, let me or other posted inspired to go to museums, we can talk about those two.

Jessamyn 30:09 Well, I mean, why not? Right? Or how about one that just inspires you to go to YouTube and look at Tiny goats interacting with sold lots of different kinds of animals? And this is Chris you Lonneke Yeah. Christine Lonneke. Longtime mefite not very frequent poster. And it's just basically I mean, zoos do. Zoos who have a good social media game, lately, are just incredible. And this was this zoo. It's got a tiny goat, and kind of a normal size goat. And then they introduce these goats to other animals. And I think I had originally seen it somewhere on the internet, like tiny goat meets porcupine. And then I was like, I gotta come to met if Oh, it's already there. And it's just, you know, seeing how a goat deals with meeting other animals. But I mean, this porcupine is really incredible also, and if you need to spend a couple minutes just looking at something that is not America circling the drain, I recommend this.

Cortex 31:14 This is Oh man. Yeah, no, I'm

Jessamyn 31:16 also tiny goat in Oregon. Yeah.

Cortex 31:20 This is my Zoo. This is like this is very near me. Is the chupacabra actually a copper bar. Oh, is that what's going on with this one? What is the chupacabra? Traditionally, the tube cut.

Jessamyn 31:31 Just don't don't you explain to you because I was in a group called the chupacabra police that went to Burning Man Tupa cobre pendant I wear around my neck.

Cortex 31:41 I will absolutely refrain from explaining to you but I have to say that was a very misleading way to not ask about this. Because they literally what is the tube?

Jessamyn 31:49 You said? What is it? I was just gonna what is it in the context of this video?

Cortex 31:55 You knew about the post? I feel I feel I feel waylaid.

Jessamyn 32:02 That is the most mansplaining is. Ah,

Cortex 32:05 I did I apologize for the confusion.

Jessamyn 32:10 I apologize for my part and your confusion. Yes, stuff on oh my god, what is that?

Cortex 32:17 I think it's a cup of Barbara, that would explain why they

Jessamyn 32:20 would. I've never seen one run like that. But I guess

Cortex 32:23 it looks skinny compared to what I've seen of cup bars. Maybe it's a juvenile copper bar or something. Or maybe it's completely something else. I'm not gonna turn on the audio on this thing right now. So it'll just be a mystery. But anyway, those goats are adorable. And also, I see that I see a lot of goat content in a sort of meta filter adjacent way because Frieden lives in Oregon now. Right? Yes, a farm with some adorable goats on it. And and so and

Jessamyn 32:54 I follow them on Instagram, and they're very good on social media, generally speaking, well, he's on Twitter, and she's on Instagram, and maybe he's on Instagram too. Yeah, Milk Milk goat farm. Is that what it is?

Cortex 33:04 Something like that, man. So yeah.

Jessamyn 33:09 While we're talking about animals we can identify even though I'm sure you have other stuff to talk about. I enjoyed this post by fearful symmetry about problematic unclassified fossils because they can't tell what they are.

Cortex 33:25 That's fantastic. Yeah,

Jessamyn 33:27 basically, there's a article in The Guardian and yeah, it's sort of an article in The Guardian about like drawers full of nonsense. And of course, Ciara Ciara, one of mefites meta filters, favorites, and someone we should get on the podcast, basically talks about oh, yeah, when I was at the National Museum of Kenya, like they had a whole drawer of, I guess, hyrax tea.

Cortex 33:54 Okay, little mice.

Jessamyn 33:55 Oh, okay. I guess or they're not even little mice. They're like, yeah, weird little mammals. And she's into them. The museum wasn't that into them. So she got to like look through a drawer of teeth, because they were like, whatever teeth they're not you know, coverless etc. So I just enjoyed it short post enjoyed it

Unknown Speaker 34:40 if I go I'll know exactly how far I'll go. So everybody

Cortex 34:47 seems sort of digging through a big pile of recent activity that has a lot of like stuff where I had to do work. Ah, but here's one that I enjoyed. This is From fizz pit is about a video series called The dragon's tomb and it's one of

Jessamyn 35:08 those gets to say the DRA to N word

Cortex 35:11 yeah dragon yeah forgot all about Dragon yes now this is i This is something I enjoyed very much, mostly for its actual content and a little bit for the weird for some of the presentation of his comp tent because it's a guy doing a series of how to play short video tutorials on various board games. Oh, God, I love that. But he's completely full of shit. Intentionally show so like it's just like it's a very straight faced satire where he explains games in like three or four minutes. Completely wrong. Like he's he's clearly seriously clearly spent a bunch of time for each of these sitting down and working sake. Yeah, yeah. So it's just inventing a whole new game, usually a very badly broken one mistaking intentionally various other thematic components,

Jessamyn 35:57 but they're games you've heard about. So it's like, yeah, Cards Against Humanity. And if you know anything about it, like everyone a meta filter does, this will be hilarious to you. Because you're like, but no.

Cortex 36:09 All right. Yep. And every every video he comes up with all in all, this game is a blast play. And so if you're not getting it at first, once you get two or three years or something up here, right? Anyway, I thought it was a lot of fun. I don't delight in people being confused in a disappointed sort of way. Exactly. But there is a story of my life. Yeah, there's something kind of enjoyable about watching people process stuff. So I was like, kind of enjoy seeing the topology of that in a thread where there's this like, straight faced satire thing going on. People are sort of like, finding their way collectively to understand what's going on. Yeah. And like it speaks to doing a good job with a straight facing one. It's actually a point of confusion. But yeah, I thought that was kind of funny. And they're fun to watch. It's Yes. It's hard to know how funny they are outside of the context of being into board gaming, because it's pretty topic specific. But it's all sticking out asterisk on there for anybody who's like,

Jessamyn 37:09 maybe not for everyone.

Cortex 37:12 Also, you know, as many filters birthday, and there was a post about that.

Jessamyn 37:17 You guys had a beat up, right? Yeah. We

Cortex 37:19 had meetup over at my house last last weekend. That's that's about right. Yeah, that was fun.

Jessamyn 37:25 I saw the pictures. A couple pictures.

Cortex 37:27 Yeah, we had like 20 people come out and hung out and chatted a bunch. And yeah, it's really great time. It was nice time, Mr.

Jessamyn 37:35 Metafilter birthday thread. And now I'm happy that I saw it. Well, I'm already like scheming about kind of, you know, what, what next? What next summer is going to be like,

Cortex 37:46 Yeah, we're gonna make some plans, some plans. Let's see. What else did I like, I liked this. This blog that the manager was ensuring is posted about oh, I should say for the medical troubleshoot. They post thank you for fire for posting that. Because I realized that, oh, it's the first day. And last year I made it and I don't want to make it again. It should be like a thing. And so I just went on Twitter and said, Hey, I'm not saying someone should go and make a medical post about the Metafilter birthday. But I'm not not saying that. And then Jen shot it. So good job.

Jessamyn 38:18 Yay. So what is this? This this

Cortex 38:21 post from the Manage twists and turns is site called we want plates. And it's just keeping track of people serving food not in traditional. Okay. Somebody who serves you your food on a skateboard, mini tear grill or in a cat food bowl, etc. You know, it's like it's kind of like a classic blog. And I enjoy it for the content. It's documenting more than like the notional complaining about the content. It's just it's a great record of unconventional stuff. You know, whether you like it or not, it's nice to see it through rounded up as sort of stuff.

Jessamyn 39:04 mushy peas and a latte glass. fiddly little starters on skulls. Oh my god, this is awesome. This is one of those. Yeah, I can totally see why you love it. It's one of those classic, you know, one dumb combination of things. And then everybody gets to talk about the bad thing time they ate a thing. It was not. That was not on a plate.

Cortex 39:30 My favorite posts that I have no idea what the content is because I haven't engaged with any of it, but it's bookmarked is the dank Simpsons remixes posts from milquetoast. I have no idea what's in here, but I'll get there at some point and I am sure I will enjoy it and there will probably be at least one steamed ham. So there you go. You can use

Jessamyn 39:49 it to me and I did not remember.

Cortex 39:51 Yeah, I won't go into it again. That's alright. That's

Jessamyn 39:53 great. I'll wait till it's on me. It's on me.

Cortex 39:56 I mean, I'm not I'm not trying. I'm not trying to deny you that information. I just don't Nothing to add about it today. So

Jessamyn 40:01 I believe I took it in the spirit in which it was intended fully. Good good. Speaking of things I found elsewhere on the internet and then came to metal filter only to find that they were already a metal filter post. Here is mandolin conspiracy, who I believe is really simpatico with me in terms of like, we seem to like almost exactly the same things. And this was about Sridhar Chillul of Panay, India got his nails cut for the first time in six years. And if you were a kid that read the Guinness Book of World Records, as I was, you've seen pictures of this dude and his misshapen hand and his Blong grotty nails. And he finally got them all cut off at the age of 82 and sold them to Ripley's Believe it or not. And there are pictures, they got cut off with a Dremel.

Cortex 40:54 Yeah, that's Oh, man. That is That is definitely an end of an era. That's, that's crazy. And it's not crazy. It's, it's probably a pretty good life decision.

Jessamyn 41:04 It's the opposite of that. Yeah. And, you know, I had made a post on it, and it got deleted as a double which was fair, because I'd actually done like three or four link posts that used completely three or four different links than this one, which is completely, you know, fair, right. Your links in the comment? No, because I think they were in there once I found that post. And I was like, Hey, I made a post about this morning. We managed not to use a the same links. And so mandolin conspiracy is like so Hey, did I nail it on the first try?

Unknown Speaker 41:36 Ah,

Jessamyn 41:38 Excelsior.

Cortex 41:40 They put a lot of carrots in another post.

Unknown Speaker 41:42 Ah

Cortex 41:46 wait, let's keep this go we got we can come up with some more. Now, no, I can't. It was a meet cuticle. Another post that I liked was this one. Just for the phenomenon really backseat pilot posted a article someone wrote about how they discovered that they have been WASD being wrong all these years? I think. So WASD is just a description of those four key caps on the QWERTY keyboard in the top left, because that's where people usually do the forward backwards and straight left and straight flight, right movement keys in first person shooters and other video games that have like I have

Jessamyn 42:27 learned a thing. And so they put their putting their, their, their fingers on

Cortex 42:33 the wrong one. Yeah, like the canonical the canonical version. And I don't know why it's canonical, it just is this is what a lot of people have agreed as the way to go is to sort of rest of your ring finger on a and your middle finger on S and your index finger on D. And then you use your middle finger to use up and down a tummy. Yeah, or WNS to use like forward and backward, and then you can strafe left and right with the other two fingers. And then use your pinky to hit things like Shift and Control. And you can use your thumb for the spacebar. And this is just like, for whatever reason, this became like a known way to do it. But the person in the article was using their pinky on a and so everything was sort of shifted over a little bit. And the the article is basically they made some comment, and some was like, wait, what? Because like what they're saying didn't make sense. If you were doing WASD. I was like no, right? Yeah, my fingers were like, dude, no, I like everybody they know is like, what are you talking about? And the article just sort of documents that and there's not a ton of meat to it. But it is sort of like that realization that something that you assumed was just the way everybody does it is not

Jessamyn 43:40 sitting and standing for the you know,

Cortex 43:44 exactly, which became a running theme in that thread,

Jessamyn 43:47 which I haven't even looked at.

Cortex 43:51 But it led to a lot of discussion about how people use keyboards and sort of like why different things would work and what not. And so I enjoyed the medical discussion that came out of it that seemed kind of inevitable. And yeah, it was interesting. It's interesting hearing people talk about, like the process of acquiring even these habits in the first place. Because like No one wrote a book saying, Put your fingers here as well. It's just like, you know, people sort of learn from other people and

Jessamyn 44:12 right, yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah. Nice. Yeah.

Cortex 44:16 I thought that was cool.

Jessamyn 44:18 I enjoyed this post. In fact, this may have been one of my favorite posts. This month. It's another man of twists and turns post. It's basically to a one pager called the div that looks different in every browser. Yes. Basically, it's some cascading style sheet and some HTML, that if you look at it in other browsers, it just looks different. And it's a little tricky because he's actually linking to something on code which is showing you the code and then you have to you have to go Go to Martin's Twitter thread to understand, I think what he's talking about, like there's any as a picture that shows you how come and it's not just like different like it's got a slightly bigger padding or slightly bigger margin. It's completely different.

Cortex 45:18 You would you would never guess that these were the same bits of code being displayed. It's not like oh, but my borders off by two pixels. It's like, no, these are like five fundamentally different geometric forms. Yeah. Which I really just like aesthetically, too. So I was super into it. Because like, I feel like you could have done this demonstration with a little bit less geometric panache. But,

Jessamyn 45:34 yeah, yeah. And so the thread is a combination of people being like, ah, web standards and other people like, I don't get it, you link to some HTML. And then other people talking about CSS and it's actually, I like it because it's a super nerdy thing. And also, I learned some things.

Cortex 45:52 Yeah. I really dug this post from Trimble. They made a post about somebody's long form deep dive on making the Animal Crossing Nintendo Entertainment System item work as a general Nintendo emulator, which it turns out it is. And it's, it's a long, wonky article, I'd say go poke. I'm already so there's this game Animal Crossing, right that I know. And in it you can get like Nintendo games to put in your house like you can find like, oh, like a nest with a Donkey Kong,

Jessamyn 46:26 in the house in your

Cortex 46:28 you put it you find it somewhere you put in your house and you sit down and you can play Donkey Kong or Super Mario Brothers or whatever. But someone did some poking around and figured out there's also a nest item that like just it says if you try to use it, because I don't have any software for it. And what they figured out is that it's actually just a fully self contained NES emulator that they used plus ROMs for each of the individual things you could do. So like, what did you do

Jessamyn 46:52 if you own all the games, right, like we've been acclimatized to like, whoa.

Cortex 46:59 But what it comes down to is they didn't like make a Donkey Kong game emulator for for Animal Crossing, they just used an actual NES emulator, and like plugged a Donkey Kong rom into it for the Donkey Kong item. So this is like the long form process of figuring out how to use this to do arbitrary Ness emulation in our end, like you might say why? And the answer is, why not. But it's super detailed. digging in on that, I thought it was pretty cool. So you want to talk about AskMe Metafilter?

Jessamyn 47:33 Should I want to finish talking

Cortex 47:34 about Metafilter? I'm sorry, I should ask. Hey, do you have some more medical people to talk about?

Jessamyn 47:38 Ah, just a couple little ones. Jim made a post about this online cornhole game, you know, one of those, like, 27 favorites, six comments. I've been learning when people talk on Twitter about their ratio. You know, like people who get like lots of replies, but not a lot of favorites or whatever. So I think there's got to be some kind of like Metafilter thing, or like, you know, lots of phase but few comments. Qwirkle is this kind of pattern matching game. It's a little bit like set. It's a really fun board game to play with multiple people. But it's also one you can play pretty good with a computer. And Jim found one that was online. And I enjoyed that. Tedious made a post about the new exhibit at Monticello, about interpreting the experiences of the enslaved, which I mean, as people may know, Thomas Jefferson has a lot of offspring that were the product of unions between him and people he had enslaved. And that's always been a part of his legacy. That's been complicated. Because, you know, he's got this kind of like, we're he's the founding father of America, but he's also got this sort of not as cool, super shitty aspect. But how do you balance that? It's super tricky. And basically, they've got a new little thing at Monticello that talks about it, Monticello, Monticello, I don't, I don't know. And I appreciated it, you know, complex topics dealt with well, and lastly, just kind of a one off by end of invention. What your choice of crisps says about you and it just sort of talks about like, you know who you are based on what kind of potato chips you like in five click bait, but I don't care. I liked it

Cortex 49:36 most. Yes. Monticello I want to tell you is an example of a specific phenomenon of things that happened to me as a kid because of my family. Linguistic slash family dynamic they like Monticello itself does not really factor into this but when I discovered the existence of Monticello, I was unfamiliar with the name I thought was kind of funny and as young meetup Did as Obi Wan the nickel, or I know, but like they didn't learn about currency as a kid particularly, like not the content of the backs of coins.

Jessamyn 50:09 There are so many AskMe edit filters reading about not knowing anything about money this month. Yeah, yeah, but I'm sorry.

Cortex 50:16 Well, anyway, I remember like discovering the existence of Monticello, hearing the name of the first time and making some joke about like, oh, it's like a mountain of jello. And the sort of the way my family worked is like saying something weird and funny and wrong would just haunt you for the rest of your life is your brand now? Yeah, so So Joshy saying mountain to mountain of jello, like, would come up anytime something involves mountains or jello or Thomas Jefferson, or plantations or whatnot. For the rest of my life. It's like the time I said, Salomon, when we were driving past salmon Street, we've all done it. And yeah, you know, it's, it's a complicated thing. And, like, trauma is too strong of a word. But boy, that was kind of a dumb thing about my family.

Jessamyn 51:02 I know what you mean. I know what you mean. I have some friends like that. Like, like, we went to college together. And still, every now and again, there'll be like, Oh, remember the time the dog threw up, and you just picked it up with paper towels and then finished making dinner. And I'm like, Dude, seriously, like, fleas. I mean, that was maybe something I did when I was 18 or 19. And like, that's the thing they think about and it's like, it's clearly like, sitting with them in a weird way. And so then they have to keep bringing it up with me.

Cortex 51:34 Yeah. The time when I was four, and I ate a piece of cat food. kibble on a dare has mostly fallen off the radar at this point. Yeah, I know, right? That's a it's just a little cracker man. Plus I was born it was a dare, like, what do you do? I blame my sisters for a lot of this.

Jessamyn 51:53 Boy, I would like good friends with my sister now. But we had kind of a kid relationship that was a lot more contentious. And so it is really funny. As grown ups every now and again, and we get along and we're really good friends. But every now and again, we'll trip over one of those things. Oh, that time you take my eyes shut and maybe walk around the houses. If I was blind. I'd be like, Oh, God. Yeah, that was terrible. But like, you know what I mean? Like, she thinks about it. Yeah. And then I'm sure I have stuff like that with her too. I just I don't remember it offhand. But yeah, sisters. All right, totally.

Cortex 52:56 You want to talk about ASP? Metafilter?

Jessamyn 52:57 I sure do.

Cortex 52:59 Let's talk about us. Metafilter.

Jessamyn 53:01 Well, here is the mystery that I am curious about, which is also a que O'Meara thing I think a friend on Twitter bought an old card game there's no identifying markers. Anyone have any idea but it looks like they might be tobacco cards and not a game card. I don't know if I haven't gone back to look at Twitter to see if anybody know if anybody said anything about it, so like is it a game? Is it a tobacco card? The they have these little kind of like, you know who is Barnum's fat lady, you know, I am or whatever. They've got these little lines on them. But like, the basic question is, what the hell are these things? And I don't think anybody knows. So if you dear listener, thank you have an idea. Stretched open.

Cortex 53:55 super interesting. Yeah. Maybe it's just like someone's old school Twitter. Like they're just like talking random shit about themselves in an odd way. And like, it's like people do Twitter threads were like one of 33 to 33. And that's what the numbers are. They're like, it's just a big old tweet, right? Collect the whole set. Yeah. No, that's great. That's super neat. Yeah.

Jessamyn 54:16 I also enjoyed this one, because it is relevant to my interests. How can I shut the hell up? It's basically someone who's a little bit, it's anonymous question someone who's a little bit socially anxious, maybe a little loud. And then every now and again, you know, kind of starts going on and on about a topic again, who among us is not this person a lot of times but they're a little down on themselves about it, and would like to really not be that way anymore, and get a lot of good advice about how to deal with that particular problem, which I thought was thoughtful and helpful. There's one that I particularly liked by fritillary basically called the s Tfu technique, share time with everybody take three seconds to think find empathy for others understanding isn't necessary to help be more part of a conversation and not the dominant person in the conversation. Yeah. Which was the thing I really took away from that thread. Yeah. Seemed helpful construct.

Cortex 55:21 I liked this little asked and answered one just from yesterday. I'm trying to post that in the wrong field. There we go. I'm good at stuff. Yes, this question from metadata saying what the heck American flag is this in this video? Oh, I

Jessamyn 55:35 love that. I just saw that the other day to you feel free to continue to explore. It's

Cortex 55:39 just like, it's an odd looking flag that has like the maybe 40 Something stars and they're arranged in sort of a circle and meditators like go, what's the deal with this? I didn't find it on the, you know, history of the flag page on on Wikipedia. Right.

Jessamyn 55:55 And I learned through this, that basically, there was a period of time in American history when the flag was a lot of different ways.

Cortex 56:03 Yeah, like, sort of doing whatever they're gonna do with it. Yeah, until what 1912? Someone said in the, I think it was, I'm not sure. But yeah, probably the 20th century. Yeah. The government's like, Oh, hey, actually, you know, this is what the flag looks like, make it look like this. You got to make it look

Jessamyn 56:20 great. There was another thread that I thought was really interesting, another anonymous thread, basically, somebody who lost their left their faith tradition, and is trying to kind of figure out how to manage the weird feeling that you have between growing up in a faith tradition and not being in it anymore. And the topic metta filter doesn't always deal with well, when it comes up kind of on the blue. But there's enough people who have distance between they're sort of born in faith tradition, that there was a lot of really good advice that was really sort of helpful and empathetic. So I enjoyed reading along with it. Again, as someone who kind of came up with no faith tradition, I'm always fascinated by how people explain sort of what that has or had meant to them. And this was a good thing to read along. And

Cortex 57:10 yeah. Oh, you know, I mentioned, while we talked about the vending thing, or did that art fair, I mentioned, I had a question. And I basically said, Hey, this is this is what I got. I'm doing this for the first time. Tell me what else I should do. And I got a bunch of good answers. And people pointed out a couple of previous asked medical threads that also had good answers, and basically provided a couple of fairly thorough checklist of things to bring and things to plan for. And it was actually all really helpful. So thanks, everybody, for that. Yes. metaphor for doing the thing that it's supposed to do. Ah, so good. I don't post questions enough. These days. I'm trying to get more about like being like, Oh, hey, you know, I got a question. I'm just

Jessamyn 57:52 gonna poke you get to a week. But yeah, I

Cortex 57:54 know, right back, do

Jessamyn 57:55 you get as many as you want.

Cortex 57:57 Technically, I try. I try and avoid violating the timing stuff. Even though as an admin, I'm able to just like check things like in the spirit of the thing, channel, I'll make some extra meta talks, obviously. But other than that,

Jessamyn 58:11 you know, not mad with power, good man. Well, I liked just in terms of a list generating sort of adorbs thread this was by hot toddy, and just expanding my repertoire of ways to physically express affection. So like, you know, little ways with your partner or someone you care about that you show them that aren't just like, hug, kiss, hug, kiss, kiss, hug, kiss. And it's just like lots of different ways that people do this within their relationship. And it's just fun to read, as somebody who's in a relationship enjoys sort of weird dumb things that I do with my partner that kind of feel fairly specifically stupid to us. It's fun reading about other people's specifically stupid ways of interacting with each other. You know, like a lot of people are more likely to talk about this like with our cats, but you don't always hear people talking about it with their burger. So I enjoyed it. Yeah. I have a confession. I read this question wrong. And I gave advice without reading the question thoroughly. So my advice was bad and I just apologized. General. General, it wasn't bad. Exactly. But basically, archipelago is looking pretty good. Right

Cortex 59:34 now. I'm believing

Jessamyn 59:36 women centered women authored graphic novels. And then below the fold. Looking for sci fi fantasy fairy tale asked and I was like women centered graphic novels. I know a ton of them and just kind of steamrolled right over which is too bad because

Cortex 59:50 that was great. But yeah, it's definitely not sci fi.

Jessamyn 59:53 It sure is not and then I didn't want to like get in the thread and be like, I didn't read right like because It's not about me, you know, I just figured it's better to have my comment, be there and be wrong than it is to get back in there and talk about myself some more. But I did feel bad. So I feel I like I would just tell the podcast.

Cortex 1:00:12 Duly noted, that's the good party.

Jessamyn 1:00:15 And if you'd like women centered women authored graphic novels in a sci fi fantasy or fairy tale us direction, this thread is your jam.

Cortex 1:00:24 Good in there. Yeah. There's this question from Moon milk that I like. I know, that's all about Moonmilk. Well, I've

Jessamyn 1:00:34 always been a username I've enjoyed, like reading and saying,

Cortex 1:00:39 I liked this question. On sort of two levels. One of them is that it's actually kind of useful to get a little bit of more thoughts from people who actually can put this stuff into words and give examples because like, I, I know what Moonmilk is asking about that sort of wandered about it. And like, like, chill hop ish stuff is about as close as my vocabulary for it is to and it's useful stuff because like this, this definitely falls in the realm of stuff that's not super distracting to listen to, if I'm doing something else. And I appreciate that because, like, I have a hard time not like listening to lyrics when there's lyrics and music. So like, there's a lot of stuff that I can't really listen to while doing some words. So this sort of thing is, you know, works for me. But I also like blue T shirts answer which is, like, simultaneously a joke and also not so totally accurate. Yeah, Lo Fi hip hop beats to chill and study to is like, if you go to like, you know, Spotify, there's a million permutations.

Jessamyn 1:01:37 Incidentally,

Cortex 1:01:39 the fucking Alex Jones bullshit.

Jessamyn 1:01:41 Yes, yeah.

Cortex 1:01:44 But yes, basically, take the words in that first common for blue t shirt, rearrange them at random times, every single one of them will be a Spotify or YouTube or whatever playlist and it'll get you this stuff. It's just kind of a funny, weird branding genre thing. Maybe kind of expresses to the fact that there's not a super tight genre name for this sort of thing. So it's like, right, well,

Jessamyn 1:02:07 I mean, because there doesn't necessarily have to be right unless you're trying to like, market it or sell it. It can just kind of be what it is. And people buy it from the people who make it kind of Yeah. Yeah, that's cool. I had two sort of local to me things that I thought were interesting. One of which is I found a glass bottle in a wooden box in a basement in the northeast and there's no writing on it. What the hell

Cortex 1:02:36 the glass bottle knows what it did.

Jessamyn 1:02:39 And it turns out you know, this is by evil mom lady, and it turns out it's a flat bottom bottle that's completely full or half full of muriatic acid which is why it's in the box by someone who I guess was a stone worker and so it's a thing you can use on your bricks or something and yeah

Cortex 1:03:04 what was it was the theory that it was light sensitive and issue there I don't know anything about Radek acid so

Jessamyn 1:03:11 I don't I assume it's an acid because it says acid Oh sure.

Cortex 1:03:15 But like super gases of acid caustic so it's like super corrosive. Like they're sort of keeping it there just to have Yeah,

Jessamyn 1:03:21 so but you could only this was in the 50s or before so all your only option was a glass bottle. But if you really want to make sure your glass bottle doesn't crack you put it in a wooden box but I thought it might be like colonial you know era or whatever. And so I got to you know, jump into the thread like goof and be like, by the way I made a metal filter posts on antique bottles also I have one of these bottles that's pretty great. Yeah, yeah, and then the other I always feel that way

Cortex 1:03:53 when like some specific random bit of pop culture comes up from like 10 years ago like oh, you know, I once wrote a song about that specific

Jessamyn 1:04:00 here's all my research is my wheelhouse and then I'm just trying to find the other one not let it out. Do you have a thing you want to talk about while i

Cortex 1:04:13 i have nothing in the chamber I

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Jessamyn 1:04:37 No, no, I think it's adorable. Okay, here it is. So another one that was in my wheelhouse in sort of a weird way was basically this AskMe edit filter thread anonymously posted this person I don't know why I think woman now but person who basically is Jewish lives in my Massachusetts used to work somewhere where coworkers were openly anti semitic. Somebody made like a weird comment. And about them being Jewish when they're not kind of out as Jewish at work. And they were like, Oh, my God, like, is this just Massachusetts? Like, is this like this? Is this normal? How do you deal with this? And so basically, it's like all my Jews from Massachusetts, and the thread talking about like, you know, yes or no, or maybe or this is how I deal with it. Or this is how, because there's a whole bunch of places in Massachusetts, where there are sort of like high concentrations of Jewish people. But there's also a lot of just rural places where people are like, I haven't seen a Jew before. And you're like, come on, really. And so just talking about kind of how you how you deal with that, and what's useful and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So I thought the thread was interesting. And it was also interesting, because again, I don't know who's Jewish in Massachusetts, but it's interesting to hear people self identify and be like, Oh, that person

Unknown Speaker 1:06:02 nobody can ever give me God.

Jessamyn 1:06:19 Well, we could scoot over to metta talk where is did the unexpected kindness or sorry, della donna did had a similar feel good thread. But Bella Donna had a hey, G man died. Talk about how unexpected kindness and generosity have improved. Yeah. And I enjoyed it just because there's a lot of good stories. Yeah, about people talking about the sorts of things that made them feel better. Thing was at the

Cortex 1:06:51 thread snack thread. Talk about your snacks, which I

Jessamyn 1:06:55 was happy about, because the weekend chat was about pets. And I read along but you know, I'm not a pet person. So yeah, but but boy, I can talk about some snacks. Yep. And did.

Cortex 1:07:11 And let's see, well, well, we mentioned the mug earlier, but worried about the talk. So hey, that mug. And there will be a new shirt along shortly too. I just need to get that gussied up, but we're going to do a shirt with some rad art from Robocop is bleeding. That'll be coming out soon, too. Nice. I did a different podcast. I talked to Mike Masnick on the

Jessamyn 1:07:35 trade. That was good. But I actually didn't listen to it. How was it? Okay, that I didn't

Cortex 1:07:41 know, why didn't you take an entire out of your life? You know, just to listen to me saying things that I say to you on I already know. There's nothing shocking out there. It's me talking about sort of metaphor in moderation stuff. But it was fun. It was a nice conversation. We're trying out some new ads and seeing how that's going. So far, not bad. So we'll see if those stick around if we change them up or what happens. But it's been well received, as far as you know, here's some ads go. So that's that's been nice. Nothing has gone horribly wrong. I mentioned earlier the projects, sort of update posts. And that I liked that, because I'm sort of repeating myself on that, but a lot of meta talk.

Jessamyn 1:08:29 I somehow didn't see this testing some new ad stuff. So good. I did glad to read it. Where was I this week? I don't know what the hell was going on.

Cortex 1:08:38 I mean, you weren't like doing your filling shifts or anything. So there's no,

Jessamyn 1:08:43 like I read better talk. I just there was just like this gap of like five or six days where I clearly did not

Cortex 1:08:50 good. That's most of what was there. Good stuff in meta talk people. Nice chatty things.

Jessamyn 1:09:00 Anything coming up next week? Next month? I mean, you got the cortex, Josh Mullard, or Josh cortex, large. Account accountability club. I

Cortex 1:09:11 don't know. I mean, I will be I will have been in Maine for the second half of the month. So like, who knows what, like, I'll be working while I'm over there. But who knows how my attention will be. So no, I have no predictions. I have no prediction for next month. I will. I'm going to try to remember to mention something on fanfare. So one thing I want to mention is there's a decent discussion thread on sorry to bother you that I've only glanced at because I'm really curious about it. And I haven't seen it yet. But I've heard good things. So I'm glad to see that there's several dozen comments of discussion on fanfare and hey, I've mentioned fanfare.

Jessamyn 1:09:44 Great. Yeah, I've been, you know, reading along with elementary on fanfare enough to figure out that I had missed an episode like I watch it via friends Plex. So the Plex just queues up whatever the next show is, and then I've been watching them in order and then people were like, oh, But what about this crazy thing? And I'm like, I didn't see that. And they were like, you missed the thing. And

Cortex 1:10:05 it's always interesting. Had to track it

Jessamyn 1:10:06 down on hot internet.

Cortex 1:10:08 Yeah, reading fanfare stuff on a show that I've watched but haven't like gone all in on. Yeah. All the shit that people who are close watching are catching that I'm like well, that's one

Jessamyn 1:10:19 of my favorite things about fan fair is I'm super I'm that person for some shows. And I'm not for other shows. And I appreciate always appreciate, you know, people who are that person for shows where I'm not that person.

Cortex 1:10:32 Yeah, like I don't, I don't have watched pretty much anything like I don't really have the patience to watch a show. I don't feel like watching. But you know, there are some, there are some times where I will engage the show with a real close watch to try and puzzle out what's going on with like the, you know, the underlying story, and sometimes I'll just sort of watch it to watch it. And like Star Trek Discovery. I may have talked about this, like on a previous episode, but just like I really enjoyed Star Trek Discovery, me and me and Secretary have both, you know, thought it was pretty great. And we're excited about season two coming along. But you know, we watched the first several episodes and we just sort of like watched him like watching some Star Trek and it'd be quite became clear that there was some like, you know, clever foreshadowing of stuff coming along. You know, once it got a few episodes in. They were like, Oh, I wonder something's going on with that. And so we started looking at the fanfare stuff. And it turns out everybody on fanfare was like, oh, clearly, they're there. Bla bla bla bla bla, basically write about all this stuff, and had been like reading these cues since like, episode one that like episode six, we're starting to notice maybe something's up and they've

Jessamyn 1:11:31 been, everyone's like, Oh, yeah, ever since I saw that ring they were wearing.

Cortex 1:11:36 Yeah, clear. Clearly, the delay in the mirror was evidence that they were going into a Mirror Universe and blah, blah, blah. Really? Oh, yep. That's that that's exactly what's going on.

Jessamyn 1:11:44 It was really great. When I was into Game of Thrones was getting to have fanfare kind of explained some of that stuff to me that I was just like, what the sigil What even is no? Right? Maybe like, well, that's how you know. But

Cortex 1:11:58 that's, that's that's the history of house clusterfuck. You want to quick Mefi Music Minute? Sure. What would I do if you said no? Oh, shit. I did all this planning for nothing. Here's some nice

Jessamyn 1:12:11 display did a little song for G Man. Yeah, you can talk about that. Or? No, I mean, that's all I had to say. Basically, like he had talked to G man before he died and was like, I will make a you know, some sort of music thing when I'm incredibly high in your honor. And he did.

Cortex 1:12:32 He smoked a bunch and whatever Sure did. Yes, it was called GMan. There's also this is surprisingly great. I mean, not surprising because uncle Ozzy is great. I feel like I should deliberately accidentally still say uncle Josie, but this is this is the episode where you the listener who just realized it's uncle Ozzie realizes that it's uncle LASIK and not uncle Josie thought it was unclear LZ a ton of people including me for many, many years, and probably it just it like it parsed like you see the and then you parse it as a prefix. And then there's like an CLI.

Jessamyn 1:13:06 Oh my god, it's so good. I just listened to like the first six seconds of it. And I'm in love.

Cortex 1:13:11 Yes, he did a sort of powerpop cover of how far I'll go from Alana. And it's great. It's super good. So go listen to that. I mean, I guess all of these are showing up for the podcast, too. There is beach week by q star Ben, I still don't know what the pronunciation is supposed to be for that. Should I look at the page maybe? Anyway, it's it's good. So it's, it's, it's, it says lots of hand claps too many handclaps? And I say no, there's never enough hand claps but it's another little. The Op one is a little synthesizer that I think I talked about when there was a previous Cuban track. Maybe it's Cuban? Maybe they're Cuban. Or possibly totally not. So I see you raising your hand and the hand raising thing

Jessamyn 1:14:03 I was trying to get a screenshot of it like because if we both because your hand is just stays raised. Oh, does it? Yeah. And mine does not.

Cortex 1:14:12 Oh, that's why it says hey, that's why it says hey, I'm a little icon because your hand is raised.

Jessamyn 1:14:18 But what I'm trying to do is I click the raise your hand button, and it says hey on mine, and hey, on yours, and it's kind of adorable. Yeah. It's like, hey, hey, and I like the hey, look better than I like the.

Cortex 1:14:32 So your hay stays around until I click on it. So it's been hay this whole time that I clicked on it. And a window

Jessamyn 1:14:36 on your side? Yes. On your on my side. Yours is said hey, the whole time. Yeah. Oh, and there's a little Fedora guy, please raise your hand again.

Cortex 1:14:44 Okay, there we go. All right. See, I can't make mine go away. Any more. This is good. Good. Let's talk more about the interface of our podcasting app. The TRICARE di Metafilter music She digression.

Jessamyn 1:15:03 interrupted your music. No, no, no, no, it's

Cortex 1:15:04 fine. I we interrupted it together. Also, Juju by television name. This is pretty cool. Weird, as they say, 90s Poppy thing using somebody else's lyrics. And then it's television name doing backing track stuff and saxophone and mefite. Yeah, yeah, real cute doing vocals. And it's great. And then finally, this tiny little song from Google, who I think has been basically doing panels on some lately and it's fantastic. It's called I got an eyeball. And it's just a very short song about having an eyeball. So that was great.

Jessamyn 1:15:47 Having an eyeball like in your head. Like, I've got an eyeball, meaning I don't have two eyeballs, or I have two eyeballs. And this extra one.

Cortex 1:15:55 I I think it's open to interpretation. Give it a listen and think over it. And you know, go with it where you will. But yeah, so there's your medical for Music Minute. And I don't maybe that's it. Maybe we did the whole thing. Great. So yeah, next next time we talk, it will be a month Firth of here. I don't know where you will

Jessamyn 1:16:18 have been to Maine and back, I will be a couple days away from turning 50. I know very exciting.

Cortex 1:16:25 We should just like start remembering the medical term podcast episodes according to whatever just means current ages. So like, the next one will be like 50 A, and then 50 B and 5050. And

Jessamyn 1:16:35 50 and a half? Yeah. 50 and 1/3. Yeah, I love it. Why not?

Cortex 1:16:41 Yeah, that won't confuse any

Jessamyn 1:16:45 numbers. I don't even pay attention to the numbers.

Cortex 1:16:47 Random plug for a game I've been enjoying because I like a good game. I know. Right? Me video games. There's a little mobile game called hold down. And it's like, it's a it costs $4 which is like an impossible amount of money for I know, the people who made I know. No, I just I genuinely, I've gotten like, three hours of pure joy out of this dumb little game. It's just really nicely done. And I've been liking a lot and hey, maybe if the fact that mobile games are impossible to sell for money, because the economic factors are totally

Jessamyn 1:17:17 fucked. People play alto. Yeah, well,

Cortex 1:17:20 and yeah. And also, it's a good example of a nice little game that costs a couple bucks and it's totally worth it. And I think hold down is also totally worth it. If you like bouncing balls around and digging down into mysterious planets with cheerful little dudes.

Jessamyn 1:17:35 And ladies,

Cortex 1:17:37 abstract persons. I should actually get away from dudes. I would say dudes and ladies and who knows their strange little flying ballrooms, so it does seem like it could be safely pulled out of a patriarchal default of pronouns for sure. And that's a podcast.

Jessamyn 1:17:58 I love it. Hey, good talking to you. 1430 Right.

Cortex 1:18:01 I guess I just stopped When