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A transcript for Episode 125: It's Been A Weird, Weird Time (2017-02-07).

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Unknown Speaker 0:00 Hi, this is will online says who spent and just want to say thanks to everybody for being there since November and January 20. It's been weird and kind of awful but you guys have certainly made things a little easier. Thanks give thanks you just bar just man when God was best best of the web be

Cortex 0:44 Well, shall we do this thing?

Jessamyn 0:46 Let's do this do this thing.

Cortex 0:49 Let's let's record a podcast. Show record a podcast. You me? Yeah, sure. Can we just do it? Sure. All right. Well, hey, welcome to the medical dear monthly podcast as to the web. I feel like this intro disintegrates every time I do it. But this is episode 125. Today is February the seventh. And we're covering basically the start of the year through today. I think we recorded that's one on the second of January. Yeah, I am Josh Maillard, aka cortex. And I'm Jessamyn. And I'm excited to announce that I have somewhat repaired in a very hacky fashion, the mic, I used to record this, which has been previously I know, there was something wrong. It was it was a subtle thing. But there was a little bit of noise coming through a little bit of humming sometimes, because it's a fancy mic, this mic that the USB mic, Rode Podcaster that Matt handed down to me years ago, I remember Yeah. And and it's, it's an it's a nice mic. It's an arrest on a suspended shock mount, you know, it's like, the inner ring that the mics attached to and an outer ring attached the mic stand, and there's a bunch of elastic running between the two that holds it just like floating in the air there. And that's great, because that eliminates a whole lot of noise transfer from the desk that the mic is sitting on. And it being so I

Jessamyn 2:09 was always wondering what that was for? Oh,

Cortex 2:10 yeah, it's like, you know, it's it's shocks, it's a shock mount. And since a microphone just turns vibrations into noise. If you don't have some sort of shock, protection between like a desk, and the mic, knocking on the desk, will make noise in the mic, you know, a computer humming on the desk will transfer as like, hum into the mic. And the last few episodes at least, you know, I've had some issues where I've noticing there was a noise after the fact. And I finally took a look at the mic and realized, well, the elastics had just given away enough that it was just sitting on the fucking outer ring. So the shock mount was doing nothing. Oh, no. Yeah. Which again, like there's not construction going on in my office when I'm recording. So it's not a huge deal. But like, oh, that's why that sort of

Jessamyn 2:54 getting a little weird sound. Exactly. It's funny, right? Because I'm sort of the, oh my god, where's that sound coming from person about a completely different part of my life. You know, like the podcast and like, whatever they're like, I could turn off my humidifier. But other than that, whatever you get, you take chances you get what you get. But like, you know, when I'm like trying to go to sleep, like I'll sit here in a hotel room and be like, What is that noise? Like? There's something right, like, maybe there's a refrigerator that homes or maybe there's like, like I stayed in an Airbnb with a with a fan in the bathroom that just couldn't turn off. And so I had to, like get on the internet to learn how to take it apart. You know, like I. So I know what you're talking about only not in that example, like in a completely different example. But yeah, well, I'm glad you fix it.

Cortex 3:46 I rigged it up with a couple of elastic hair ties that Secretary suggested I try and

Jessamyn 3:51 isn't she sharp? She is she's sharpest.

Cortex 3:57 But yeah, so anyway, anybody who is a super audiophile has been just furious about that. The last few episodes, congratulations.

Jessamyn 4:05 I don't think we've gotten a bunch of, you know, negative feedback on that, though, I do have to say, you know, doing the big call in show, I really feel like sort of did exactly what we wanted to drag people in, you know, it's got a lot more people and a lot more people interactive. I think we should do that. Somehow. You know?

Cortex 4:24 Yeah. I like the idea of doing that. And actually, you know, I've noticed a couple of voicemails come in since then. I didn't think to check them before the recording, but maybe I'll slip them into the episode. During this, it didn't

Jessamyn 4:38 seem to kill you with work either. Like I mean, I know it was a lot more

Cortex 4:41 work. It was like it's definitely I'm not going to do that every month just because it's checked off more work, but it'd be it's totally doable like that as like a quarterly thing. I think it'd be totally doable. And then maybe doing some other stuff on episodes in between this little bit lower impact.

Jessamyn 4:55 Yeah, I think that's a great idea. And I enjoyed that one too. Just yeah,

Cortex 4:59 that was a lot of fun. I really Join them. Yeah, it was fun having everybody having a good time in the, in the thread.

Jessamyn 5:06 Yes, just a little grab Asri it's always good for everybody. Well, and I feel like Metafilter has been really trying sort of even, like from a specific kind of mod but also user perspective to have there be stuff in meta talk that's positive Yeah, so that people can remember what it's like to feel joy. But that's been a concerted effort that I do feel like has has borne fruit we can talk about that a little bit later, too. But I've I've enjoyed it as a user and you know, thanks.

Cortex 5:36 Yeah, no, I It's something we're gonna keep aiming for. Because it's it's actually been pretty important for me I've been you know, I I've been wondering what sort of mood I was even be in when we recorded because it's like, it's kind of varies day to day and hour to hour, sometimes these days, you know, more than I'm used to, I'm very accustomed to being a pretty kind of blase chill, like, either energetically cheerful or laid back cheerful person.

Jessamyn 6:04 even keel you are, yeah.

Cortex 6:06 And it's been slightly less, you know, I mean, not unrecognizable or anything, but it's been, it's been a lot more time being angry, or occasionally despairing than I am accustomed to. So I wasn't sure if I was gonna be like, just full of positive energy here or just like, Man, this fucking everything. What do you do? Yeah, right. We may be writing a line in between, and I feel like that's okay. That's probably about an honest representation of of the site, Zeitgeist.

Jessamyn 6:34 Sure, well, and also, I feel like, you know, depending on the time of day we record, which is completely opaque to the people listening. Yeah, true. But you know, late in the day, I'm just tired or whatever. And I just got back from a big long trip, which turned out to be super fun. And I had a great time. And I owe Toronto meetup. People You were amazing. But like, sometimes I just come home, and I'm flattened. And I just want to like, lie in bed and read like magazines, two days, but I'm in a pretty cheery mood. And nobody sneezed on me and gave me the crud on some, you know, I was on every farmer public transportation there is and like, hugging a lot of people, you know, not at the same time in different times. But yeah, stood out in the cold too much and stayed healthy. So I'm, I'm, I'm a little excited about that. And I left the country, which I recommend.

Cortex 7:24 Yeah. With qualifications,

Jessamyn 7:28 if you possibly can, right, right. Well, although that was part of it, right. We mentioned this sort of before we started recording, but, you know, in Boston, the airports, were not full of people in trouble as much as they were full of lawyers ready for people in trouble, which was nice. By the time I by the time I left the country. And when I came back, certainly. So, you know, by the time this podcast goes up, we may know something more about, you know, the actual sort of ban and it's quasi legality to begin with. But I was heartened to see that. And heartened by the positive reception, I felt like I got from the nice Canadian people who were just sorry. appreciated the

Cortex 8:10 hell out of that. We're gonna be Canadians.

Jessamyn 8:13 Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Oh, and this month, we're back to like numbers that are actually kind of cool.

Cortex 8:20 125 is great. It's a fucking cube.

Jessamyn 8:23 Yes, you can build a box out of 125. And it's awesome. And it's a sum of squares. And I didn't know this in two different ways.

Cortex 8:34 Let's see. 100 plus 20 544. Nine. No, that's not good, man.

Jessamyn 8:44 I made Oh, that's really

Cortex 8:45 bad. Just add add, yeah. Okay, what's the what's the

Jessamyn 8:53 currently 11 squared plus two squared?

Cortex 8:58 11 921 It

Jessamyn 8:59 is. Yeah. So that's kind of awesome. Yeah, that's pretty great. And then there's a whole bunch of other crap and in fact, there's so much other crap there's a Wikipedia banner that's like this article may contain indiscriminate excessive or irrelevant example. So I'm gonna fix that when we get off the phone but you know, Wikipedia I just enjoy it so much lately. Like all the all the all the crap on Wikipedia is such a low level crap compared to high level crap. Yeah. So yeah, 125 kind of interesting.

Cortex 9:35 Good job. 125. You're managing to pull, pull some weight for your neighbors. We'll see how 126 does, but

Jessamyn 9:43 I can I cannot really almost guess just, just not well, but we'll say let's see.

Cortex 9:49 Well, why borrow trouble? Exactly. Exactly. Jobs there's there's a someone needs a phone book sent to Iceland.

Jessamyn 10:00 Oh, I saw that. So I was kind of hoping somebody had handled that because it went up in the very beginning of January.

Cortex 10:09 Yeah. Well, yeah, January 6, so it's been like a month. And presumably still no, no phone book in Iceland. Or from Iceland rather. Not in ice. So yes. Anyway, go read the job description. Phone Book, Iceland. Somebody can make this. Just make this happen for the hell of it. Just, you know,

Jessamyn 10:30 go for it. handle this.

Cortex 10:32 Yeah, let's let's let's get that sucker nailed down. Also, there's a PHP job. Which is also good. So

Jessamyn 10:40 great. Little box where we can paste stuff? Yes, yes.

Cortex 10:45 We, we've been recording for, you know, 20 minutes now 10, of which we're just throwing away. Now we now we remember how we do this podcast thing. Great. But

Jessamyn 10:57 that's that's the sum total of jobs. Actually, we're not just favorites when discussing every last one of them.

Cortex 11:03 The unfilled window. I think there were a couple more this month, but I think they've been successfully

Jessamyn 11:08 handled. Oh, do you have like some special admin view where you can

Cortex 11:10 see? No, I just remember getting emails? Oh,

Jessamyn 11:13 yeah. Because I was gonna say, why don't I have that? I'm supposed to give someone a gift account, and I couldn't make it work on my phone. So I may have to kibitz with you

Unknown Speaker 11:22 afterwards. That's fine.

Jessamyn 11:25 Because I was like, oh, yeah, somebody came with a family member. And I was like, Let's sign him up. And they gave me $5, which I'll put in an envelope to you if you want. And I was like, really? Not necessary. Just do that to Josh.

Cortex 11:37 Fine, fine. Send me a $5 postcard like a fancy okay.

Jessamyn 11:43 But it just didn't. It just didn't work. But maybe it was my phone. I didn't even get a SIM card for this trip to Canada, because I was like, you know, that's I don't need to be that in touch.

Cortex 11:51 Yeah. So Wi Fi when you need it? Yeah,

Jessamyn 11:55 I just use iMessage for everything. But I was kind of in the if you Wi Fi at any rate, we'll figure it out. But I was like, maybe this is an admin tool that doesn't work anymore. Or that I don't have access to anymore. I

Cortex 12:05 feel like I've used it recently, but I feel like it might be somehow hichy. So yeah, we should check it out. Yeah.

Jessamyn 12:11 I've got like a little scrap of paper wrapping the $5 bill.

Cortex 12:18 Metadata, she's an old boat. You know. Sometimes the engine needs a little bit of greasing. I don't know, what do you do? In addition? I'm bad at boats. I regret bringing them up. Hey, you want to talk about projects?

Jessamyn 12:30 Sure. Their favorite, favorite projects this time around? One of which went up right afterwards? And unfortunately, I would like this to be on my so there's this podcast that I've been listening to. And it's amazing. But instead it's like, so there's this podcast I am gonna start listening to and I'm sure it's amazing. Which is erent. Who does a podcast with himself and his friend Tim Yang. called Race invaders? Yes. Which is basically like social justice, politics, race stuff, geek stuff, and they're on like, Episode 16. So if that sounds really awesome to you, you should go listen to it. And he pulled out Eric pulled out a couple that he really likes of the 16 if you're having a hard time picking among Yeah, you know, how do I get started kind of thing,

Cortex 13:21 which is really good idea for podcast. Like, you know, it's one thing to say, Well, no, I mean, I'd be like, Oh, that's good. You know, this one, go listen to this one. This one, you'll you will probably be like,

Jessamyn 13:31 Well, I'm listened that I feel like that was its own blog at some point, like podcasters choose their favorite episode kind of thing. Although, you know, this may be something that I like those guys who I came to talk to about podcasts when I came down to Massachusetts the last time where originally they were going to take us out to dinner. But then we wound up having like, pour over coffee in somebody's office and it sucked. And I was mad, because they wanted to interview a bunch of librarians. So they talked to me and discourse marker and Horace Rumpole. And like they were really nice, but they've just basically they're startup dudes with an app. And they wanted some library feedback. And we gave them some library feedback. And I think that was one of the features they were thinking of which maybe now I've broken some MDA that I never signed. Like, we're podcasters pick their favorite episode, because I think for a lot of people, if you listen to a podcast regular, you can pick like, Ah, this one, we were just on fire and et cetera.

Cortex 14:27 Yeah, exactly. You know, I feel like I feel like there was probably at least one block like that, because that rings a bell as well. But more

Jessamyn 14:35 of the point, I like Aaron's comments, I like listening to him. I think he really does a lot of sort of emotional labor type stuff in medical to raise threads to try and make complicated issues understood. So I'm really looking forward to listening to this because if it's anything like, you know, the comments that he makes, I mean, maybe he's got a little squeaky voice. I don't know. But I mean, that's my concern. Right. That's my concern about all Internet people before I met Jim, my biggest concern was what if he has a squeaky voice? Well,

Cortex 15:04 I I've met him at least once at a meet up in Seattle. No, no, actually, he has a perfect voice. So I think I think you can

Jessamyn 15:14 rest. I mean, nothing wrong with squeaky voices, but I might not pick them from my podcast listening. Sure,

Cortex 15:19 sure.

Jessamyn 15:22 I may have a squeaky voice.

Cortex 15:24 I like this update on a previous project back in October last year, I think Tess Martin had posted about a multi plane animation stand that she built. I remember we talked about that. Yeah. So now, just just after the last podcast, she posted a trailer for a animated work called Geneva. Geneva Convention.

Jessamyn 15:48 You never know. Ginevra I was reading it like Geneva. Yeah.

Cortex 15:52 You know, like Minerva, sister. I don't even know what Yeah. Minerva is like a Greek goddess or something, I think. Or something. Something

Jessamyn 16:01 basically, is your Google broken. Why are we having this conversation? Sitting in front of a computer right now? The worst

Cortex 16:07 radio in the world? Okay, hold. Let's just be quiet while I type and read quietly to myself. Oh, no, I'm home. And guys, you know? Okay, well, as long as we can keep the chatter going? Yes, Minerva is a Roman goddess of wisdom and sponsor of arts trade and strategy. I thought it said sponsor of ants, and I was like, wow. But yes, she was born with weapons from the head of Jupiter. And, and things just sort of go from there, as you you might imagine with Roman and Greek mythology. Anyway, so that's kind of a it's the here's the post about making the tool. And now here's something that came from that tool. I think that's a nice, you know, follow up.

Jessamyn 16:50 I do have to say, because you probably won't mention it. I really did enjoy your project.

Cortex 16:55 Oh. Yeah. Yeah, that was one of

Jessamyn 17:01 curation livestream. Right? The day before the inauguration, I don't did anything. I mean, what was it like being the guy who owned that domain?

Cortex 17:12 It was it was a non issue. I mean, the fact that the domain was available, sort of speaks to the fact that it was unlikely anything was gonna come of it. I mean, it's, it's such a flash in the pan domain choke, and it's not something where, like, I showed it to several people, like, oh, man, I really thought it was gonna be like, you know, picture of someone just taking a dump. Which in retrospect, not, you know, something like that, you know, I could see that. I mean, I think that may have been someone specific example. But, you know, and instead of just me sort of being angry and sincere about shipping fucked up and trumping awful and less needed to take care of each other. But yeah, it was sort of a weird little instinctive thing, but I was glad I was glad I wrote it up. But there was a bunch of, essentially, activist and solidarity stuff on projects, this this last couple of weeks in particular, which I mean, no surprise, but But still, it's, it's, it's nice to, it's nice to see visible signs of that along with everybody. Because you know, I mean, people are people are worried they're scared there, they have lots of genuine, really good reasons to just kind of be on edge and on the defensive, and it's nice to see people managing to also sort of go on the offensive and sort of say, Okay, what do we do that? What's next? What can we accomplish? How can we get this stuff done together? So,

Jessamyn 18:36 yeah, and you know, I was just looking at duffles post, because he had mentioned it in a Oh, yeah. In a thread, one of the threads about stuff. It's basically a essay and the title is, you are personally inconvenienced by a protest action you support, how should you react? And it's nice, because it is like kind of a thing that's worth thinking about, like, well, maybe you're not a protester, or maybe you're not an activist. Maybe you're not out carrying a sign, but you're just going around your day to day and maybe there are other protesters or activists around you doing things and maybe they get in your way and it's easy to kind of be like Trump, Trump Trump, you know, those protesters don't understand how much I'm inconvenient to grump grump, maybe I don't agree with you, whatever people are, you get irritated and you kind of start feeling weird. And so this is a little kind of pre gaming, to like, think about, what what would you do and what's important, and how can you make things go a little better for everybody, especially if you agree with the protesters. And I appreciated that. So I you know, that kind of thing. I mean, I keep telling people because there's a lot of people in metal filter, like, I don't know if I go to a protest or it's not safe for me to go to a protest or a whole bunch of other things. And so it's nice to be like, Well, maybe you can just kind of, you know, help others People not have a bad user experience when they're, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah. So it's cool.

Cortex 20:06 Yeah. And I liked that it was it was a nice thoughtful piece. And definitely, like, that's, that's part of the reality of like, wanting everybody to be sort of fired up and getting out there and whatnot, is really understandable. And I sort of feel that way to some extent, but it's also everybody's also got to live their lives and not everybody's going to be able to do everything or feel up to doing every kind of thing. And so yeah, just sort of being being part of the collective whole in terms of sort of supporting what's going on. Even if you're not actively doing it is definitely a good way to help.

Jessamyn 20:38 Yeah, but it's not necessarily what would come naturally. So I do appreciate him actually writing it down in words, so you can kind of you know, think it through. Yeah, I thought it was I thought it was well put.

Cortex 20:48 Yeah, exactly. Man, yeah, there's a bunch of stuff. I mean, there was there was also like stuff that's like, just nice projects and stuff too. Like I'm Oh, sorry. No, no, no, you, please.

Jessamyn 21:04 Well, because I'm just uh, you know, Wikipedia, this was like the one lib one ref. Wikipedia, kind of three week project, which encourages all librarians to add a citation to Wikipedia. So I've been like, a little more deep into Wikipedia than I would be normally. And this is just a project that is called wiki not, which is by Operation afterglow, and is just kind of a cool little website that pulls out little excerpts from from Wikipedia that have really cool pictures and little little blips, and I like it. You learn little things without having to kind of read stuff or actually go to Wikipedia. Yet it has links back to it. It's just a really nice kind of tumbler style thing.

Cortex 21:54 Good ol Arm Fall Off Boy.

Jessamyn 21:58 And the Moon Rabbit. Yeah. And the codec, sir. finanace.

Cortex 22:03 I'm gonna be honest. Oh, yeah, I knew about that, though. I'm just I was. That was it. Before it was cool. I've seen the Falkirk wheel before, but every time I see it, like, man, look at that fucking thing.

Jessamyn 22:15 I know, upside. That's me doing the hollering thing that makes the thing

Cortex 22:19 that you weren't picking on my end. So

Jessamyn 22:22 yeah, well, and, you know, it just kind of got me kind of, you know, reading about the dude who completed a marathon and 54 years, got married, had grandkids, like, they're just, these are. It's a curated set of kind of what makes people really like Wikipedia. And so yeah, thanks. Thanks for doing it.

Cortex 22:45 Yeah, that's neat. There's a couple. I'm I'm totally behind on music. So I'm going to like go sideways with music, and I guess mentioned some of it right here, just by mentioning projects, but there's a couple of patients. There's a couple of projects, a Neyland to deliver here. There was a project posed by Grand Gauthier grand Ghazi super whippy the band there in cultural amnesia just put out an album called Super hippie that I just listened to today. And it's neat. It's it's weird. It's you know, it's it's, they describe it as all over the place with peculiar stop offs, and I'd say that's appropriate, but it's all my stuff. I really dug it. I am looking forward to listening to also Annika cicada has transformed the five Deluxe remaster coming up this sort of coming up. So like, I don't think you can listen to it yet. But

Jessamyn 23:48 she said there's a band that she was in. Yeah, three years. Yeah.

Cortex 23:51 So this is like a flashback remaster and so so I'm excited about both of those goals and

Jessamyn 24:01 the people who liked it. Or Johnny wallflower screw us and you at scratch brought the most amazing snacks to the meetup. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the stuff called tablet, which is basically like kind of like a bunch sugar. Condensed Milk thing.

Cortex 24:18 I'm trying to remember if he brought that to Portland, he

Jessamyn 24:21 said you have had it.

Cortex 24:23 Okay, then. Yeah, I think he brought it. I think he brought it to Portland last little

Jessamyn 24:27 baggie of this kind of stuff. And it's just so good. Yeah, good. So now I will never forget, like, you know, I mix up people's names a lot of times and their user names. And in my bag somewhere. There's a long list of everybody I met, but like, scratch and tablet are forever now. Embedded in my brain so tasty.

Cortex 24:49 He sort of got me looking at some fonts after he's learned because he's working on like a little font design project. And he got me using something called font Forge, which is an open source piece of software that Oh really,

Jessamyn 24:58 I mean, I saw your Ah, it's cool. Yeah, he but fine you made.

Cortex 25:04 It wasn't supposed to be. But I, I wholly embrace the fact that the eminent view certainly are quite buddy. So yeah, he's sort of got me looking at that. So which way for better and for it's, it's actually it's a good piece of software in my first day looking at it like oh my god, I'm gonna die. But then I realized

Jessamyn 25:22 that it's hard or because

Cortex 25:24 it's pretty powerful and it's got a lot of features. And it's for doing something that I'm not even familiar with in the first place. So knowing how to parse those features is difficult. And it's an open source project with all the sort of focus on functionality rather than smooth UI and UX user experience that you would expect from maybe an open source project like that. So it's a little bit of a brick wall to run into at first, but I sort of got the hang of it. And I'm looking forward to going back to it sometime soon. So thanks, Chris. you're nailing it. You're knocking out of the park. Speaking of fonts, actually. RGD. Let's see, where is this? HD? I say RGB, but I like an RGB, RGB, RGB. I like like its initials, but like, I've talked to this guy on a filter and elsewhere a bunch of times over the years, and I've still never managed to fucking nail this down.

Jessamyn 26:18 Oh, I think I have sent him shit in the mail. And I still don't

Cortex 26:22 yeah, I've stayed at his house. You know, we wouldn't we were in Huntsville, that year before last, before we came home.

Jessamyn 26:34 It's a speech to text transcription of an obsolete software as attempts to pronounce my initials as a word. That would do it. So I think it is RGD. Yeah. But it's because his initials are RGD.

Cortex 26:49 Yeah. Anyway, he made some nice fonts. And he posted them on milkshake. And he made a project post about that. Like he made these.

Jessamyn 26:56 Oh, I saw those. They looked cool. Yeah, it's really nice

Cortex 26:59 stuff. And this had come up in conversation because I was posting that my stuff on milkshake. And there's like, Oh, hey, I made some stuff as a go find it. And he did. And I'm very excited about that.

Jessamyn 27:11 Go find it. Yep, go find it. Oh, man. So the Canadian user experience is just preferable to the United States user experience. And I was taking a train commuter rail from my mother's, or my sister's to Boston, or Cambridge. And I'm sitting there, and it's bigger than those little robots, that just makes the announcements, you know, and some of the announcements are, you don't care, but some you kind of care about, but then they start telling you like when the train is going to come in. And so the message that you saw on the screen was the train is gonna show up in 14 minutes. Great. The message that the robot reads is that the train is going to come in one, four minutes. This is like a big city that you've heard about, you know, like Boston is a real place. And like, that's as good as they could do with the robot. It's not like a random thing. Like there's a disaster or you know, a chemical spill, like reading numbers is one of the only things that robot is supposed to do. Yeah, one four minutes.

Cortex 28:15 Well, and maybe it's like a mode thing. And they failed to set to the right mode. Like I could see there being there's probably value in having something not having a string

Jessamyn 28:24 of having it do both or either. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Phone number.

Cortex 28:27 Like you wouldn't want to tell someone to dial 503 203 Right

Jessamyn 28:31 dial 782 Yeah. But they

Cortex 28:36 still sort your shit out. Come on.

Jessamyn 28:38 So mad when I told like my mom, like, Oh, hey, just drop me off here. I'll I'll wait for the train, which is coming in 25 minutes. It was like 25 degrees out. But there's this huge structure, so of course, there must be a place to be indoors. No, they specifically made it that there's literally no like two walls that connect where you can get out of the wind. And everybody was a shit you not huddling in the elevators. Oh, Jesus, because it was just too damn cold. And I'd been like, no, that's all right, mom. I don't want to sit in the warm car. I'll be fine because I was kind of like a little mom doubt but yeah, that'll that'll fix me. Do you ever project I really enjoyed it though. I have not played with it yet. loquacious croutons reaction, gift generator, GIF Generator. Basically, you can make a face into the camera on your computer. It's got it's a desktop app. And it will find a reaction JIFF that matches, sort of, yeah. And it got posted to Metafilter and I really want to go play with it. It did not get a lot of love, actually. I mean, why did that's weird. You never know. It got a remarkable not amount of uptake for how amazing it is.

Cortex 29:58 I have a theory that anything thing that says please enable your webcam like probably bounces a bunch of people off or like, fuck that.

Jessamyn 30:06 What's the name of that cat? The white cat that just gives you the finger with its two front paws. Yes, you know what I'm talking about though, right? Yeah. Does that count have a name? It's like the fuck you cat but like,

Cortex 30:20 I don't know. Like, I know I've seen it but

Jessamyn 30:24 yeah, well fuck you cat fingers is going to be a useful image search. No, actually fucking cat fingers is every goddamn picture of that get Oh, check this out. This is actually kind of a wonderful thing. The books Yeah. It's like a cookie cutter with that cat socks with that cat a window thing with that cat a pocket thing with that cat. That's not bad. I'm pretty impressed by that actually. Still don't know what the thing is called.

Cortex 30:58 Yeah, I don't know. I'm not gonna look into it right now. But yeah, that's pretty great.

Jessamyn 31:02 Cookie Cutter cat with middle finger. Can you imagine if you were the guy that made that cat or the lady that made that cat? I like everybody's just like making money. Selling that cat. You're like, that's my cat.

Cortex 31:15 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know exactly how I'd feel like on the one hand it probably like Come on. Let me fucking monetize this. If I was wanting to see it. My husband and I probably be kind of delighted. Like it. Yeah, it's not it's not exactly a Pepe the Frog situation. You're not like, Oh, my fucking god, what has happened to my thing? You know, at least it's Wow, what a

Jessamyn 31:33 nightmare. Right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I think that's mostly it for projects. Let me just make sure I didn't make any more comments or votes. Because as I told you earlier, nope. I've made two comments in projects in the last five months. Because I just vote for things. Yeah,

Cortex 31:55 I try to remind myself to leave comments. You would think I would do better since I have to look at every single one. But like, you know, sometimes I'm just busy and like, yep, that's an accepted project. Going back to my days. Right?

Unknown Speaker 32:14 out on patrol, patrol, out of control, patrol, masters of the Moon, Moon Patrol, we'll pass on.

Jessamyn 32:38 So what's next? I don't remember the order of anything.

Cortex 32:43 Let's, let's say that's next, let's say let's say next we'll talk about benefits.

Jessamyn 32:46 For all I know we do it every time or I don't I literally don't know.

Cortex 32:50 It's it's immaterial. What's matter, is how do we know that we've ever actually podcast people? How do we know that this isn't the moment that we both gained consciousness and everything else is a false memory.

Jessamyn 33:01 Before we do this, actually, I have to give an apology to Captain Renaud, whose sister was at the library conference that I was at. And she told me I had to go up to him and say hi, from your sister, just to like as a joke, kind of, but then we wound up kind of, and I was like, what's his username? She's like, I don't know. That's what's gonna make it all awesome. You. He refuses to tell me right? So that's funny. But then we wound up talking on Twitter and a third person who knew both of us. Like who knew Captain Renaud me? And his sister was like, Oh, that's so hilarious. You guys all know each other? Oh, yeah. His name is Captain Renaud. And then basically told his sister on Twitter what his username was. It's not my fault. But I feel like maybe it's my responsibility. So I really should say, I'm sorry about that. And the card cheat. I'm sorry, you were busy doing something else? Because it would have been fun to have you at this meetup. But he came to my library talk because he's a librarian in Toronto. Yay. So that's it for my housekeeping. Captain right now. I am sorry, the car cheat stupid you couldn't go to the meetup. It was fun.

Cortex 34:11 Okay, metaphysical was talking about a filter. What's what's going on? I met up with her okay. This is my I'm now trying to do stand up comedy and failing. Stalling was that. It was like, it's like a stick. It's like what else? What else? Okay. You know, you know, I don't know. I've listened to a lot of comedians on podcasts in the last several years and some of the like, weird, insider, comedian culture about comedians being good and bad at comedy has rubbed off, even though I don't like do comedy like that. And

Jessamyn 34:42 oh, sure. No, Jim and I are both like that to spend an awful lot of time. Paying attention to comedy culture while not being a part of Yeah. And yeah, I know what you mean.

Cortex 34:54 I refer to stuff as like bits. Sometimes an Angeles like what you're not. It's not your word.

Jessamyn 35:00 That was a funny thing from last month right? Oh, you were doing a bit I didn't know you were doing a bit. I mean, I'm the perfect strike person for these kind of

Cortex 35:12 it's a good dynamic we got going. So here's the

Jessamyn 35:16 thing, my dynamic with the rest of the world unfortunately, I'm like, I don't understand is that a joke? Or I just

Cortex 35:22 as long as you can proceed in good cheer about you're not knowing Yeah, I don't care I'm you're good.

Jessamyn 35:29 Although sometimes I do tell Jim because he's like, kind of a jokey joke guy. And I don't always get that he's making jokes. And so then I feel kind of misled over and over again. I'm like, okay, baby, you got to turn the heater down to like to, just down to to dial about us. It's usually between eight and 11. Like, it's got to be down to two mom has just come from the come from the airport, I'm exhausted, No more jokes. And, you know, he can only sort of help it. But I can only sort of not be constantly confused. We work it out.

Cortex 36:00 As long as you can build that bridge a little bit in between them. That's that's what you go for. I thought this discussion that happened today to IMDb is closing their message boards,

Jessamyn 36:13 a pod by cluster costs, which is also a really good username. Yes. Still, does anybody else read IMDb as message boards besides me?

Cortex 36:24 I sure don't.

Jessamyn 36:26 A lot of times when I'm like when I've just seen a movie, and there's something about it where I'm like, what? Like, that's the first place I go, because usually someone else is there in the forum's being like what? And, you know, it ranks somewhere between Yahoo Answers and Cora in terms of usefulness. But, yeah, I was amazed the kind of that they still existed, but also amazed that they would shut them down, probably because they don't want to deal with the frickin comments. Right? Yeah, I

Cortex 36:56 think that's basically all there is to it. It's like, you know, this is, I suppose, just have a piece with other other things we've seen and talked about in terms of like, shutting off comments, or like deciding not to have comments that like, yeah, maybe at some point, you say, Well, what are we getting out of this? versus what is it costing us?

Jessamyn 37:14 Right, even though they have a huge community? So that's going to be I mean, you've just got I'm worried that Flickr is going to do this at some point, right? That they're like, we just don't even care. And I'm gonna be like, No, every link in my blog for the last 15 years is broken.

Cortex 37:27 Yeah, I think about that at night. Sometimes, I sort of stopped using Flickr much years ago, almost as a reflection of that vague anxiety that at some point, it would stop being useful. So why don't I just stop using it? Yeah,

Jessamyn 37:38 I've been uploading more direct images. But I am I am a little concerned. Yeah. But the best part of this post, which I maybe you're going to talk about, but Well, now I'm talking about it is our users CMS, which is an awesome username, who was the original developer of the Internet Movie Database system board? Yeah. And actually wrote an essay, which I actually spent, you know, 1520 minutes actually reading about what it was like to write that as a 30 year old developer at the end of 2001. It's glorious, if you're really into kind of internet nerdery and how that stuff happens. So cool. Yeah,

Cortex 38:17 it's a nice, I really appreciate it sort of mic drop a bit of, you know, actual internet history and context. That's there was just like, you know, it's a perfectly nice thread without it, but then there's boom, oh, by the way, that's Yeah, I know that.

Jessamyn 38:31 Yeah. And he's been a user for, you know, five years. So it's not like he just showed up to be like, Oh, by the way, I, although that is, okay. You've got to look at his user page, though, because this is glorious. He's made one comment. He's made one favorite. And he's been favorited by others. 11 times. It's all zeros and ones. A lot of ones. No, no, seriously, everything else is zero. Anyone? Nobody links to him. Like I don't even want to I don't want to touch the thing. I don't want to fuck it up. It's beautiful.

Cortex 39:00 Beautiful. He's, he's been flagged once. Oh, that's fantastic.

Jessamyn 39:08 It just gets better and better.

Cortex 39:10 Yep. Yeah. So yeah,

Jessamyn 39:13 I really enjoyed that thread as well, while and that's the thread that the other one that I liked much, much earlier in the month is Benny Gutierrez, who's going to be the face of Maybelline New mascara. Basically, he's a tractive man who is going to be a makeup model for Maybelline. But he's the first dude. I think, who's been, you know, a makeup model. And the whole thing is super, super interesting. I mean, the thread the thread gets a little bouncy, as you might expect, but it's it was just interesting to me. I don't really know a lot of men who wear makeup in my day to day life. So it was kind of cool just to learn about his thing to look at his Instagram and to learn about other are sort of, I guess beauty boys, this is by soccer shot first. And just I liked the post and then I enjoyed kind of watching people talk about like, well, what does makeup mean in this context? And I mean, people have some strong opinions. I have a AskMe Metafilter thread that I'll talk about in relation to this later. But yeah, it just got me into a culture. I didn't know anything about it was interesting.

Cortex 40:23 Yeah. Let's see, I. This is just from the other day, yesterday, that one maybe? I don't know what day it is anymore. Ever since we spent the switch to the, you know, after Trump calendar I've been. I work from home by Colin Nissan, which is an essay in the New Yorker that McSweeney's your thing, which I think he's a McSweeney's writer, so that makes sense.

Jessamyn 40:52 Oh, yeah. Entirely. It's just nothing about those tags makes us look like something I would want. So tell me, it's,

Cortex 40:59 like 911 crisis call from someone who works from home where just like, literally all the things that you can imagine being a work from home issue are like, you know, Sir, have you? Have you showered today? I don't know. I don't know. Go go to bathroom. But I want you to walk to the bathroom with me. And find your towel. Is your towel wet? Sobbing No, you know, like overtop thing, but you know, it's funny. But then it led to this throat pilot discussion from from the fights about working from home and their experiences and the Oh, yes, this resonates true, because I am incapable of doing this to the No, actually, I love working from home and everywhere in between. So it's fun, very fun read. And I think a lot of mefites probably have that experience to some extent.

Jessamyn 41:48 Cool. Yeah, one of the things that occurred to me that one of the reasons I find traveling so stressful. I mean, whatever, traveling is just a little stressful for everybody, right? But I always feel like more wiped out by it, I think is because I have to get up and get dressed every day. And like, I just don't do that in my day to day life. Like I get dressed when I have to go do something. But most of the time, I just Pat her on the house, and I live most of my life without having to get dressed. Whereas like, you know, if you're staying at somebody's house, you kind of have to get dressed when you mostly get up, you know, sort of dressed. And like if you go to conferences all day, like you have to like get into clothes, when you leave the building and just die and then you stay in them all day. You know, like we learned from AskMe Metafilter that many people, even people who go to work outside the house, like they'll come home and they'll have their like, what do they call them after pants where they just like wear their underwear around or they put on like, you know, whatever those kind of loungy lounge trousers, what are they called? Lounge? Lounge know what I mean, lounges. I

Cortex 42:53 think lounge housers

Jessamyn 42:56 those sweatpants with the pockets. That was one of the things I did notice in Canada

Cortex 42:59 special pockets. Well, no, they're like, cotton pockets.

Jessamyn 43:04 Like they're like pajamas, but they don't have a fly in the front. You can pee out of okay, and they've kind of got pockets. I swear to God, they're called like lounge pants, but maybe Oh, probably Yeah,

Cortex 43:14 I just I'm not up on this at all. So don't ya look to my lack of do you get dressed when you go to work at Metafilter? No, no, I just don't have a name for my pajama pants.

Jessamyn 43:22 There's just oh, they have pockets?

Cortex 43:25 Yeah, some of them do.

Jessamyn 43:27 Lounge pants. They're not pajamas at all. Josh

Cortex 43:29 There we go. I'm pretty I don't know. They feel like we're together. I think one of the

Jessamyn 43:33 things I noticed about being in Canada is that sweatpants as actual trousers are making a comeback, not just the like fucking I've given up on life sweatpants. But like kind of snuggie sweatpants on fit people. I mean, it takes all kinds both kinds are important. But like as a as a thing you can wear for fashion, not a thing you can wear as like anti-fashion isn't like

Cortex 43:55 a closely fitting pair of sweatpants basically just like, like sort of tights at that point, though.

Jessamyn 44:01 Because they've got leggings. They've got pockets, leggings don't have pockets. And they don't have material. And they're kind of like they're almost like skinny jeans. Yeah, they got seams on them.

Cortex 44:15 It's hard to explain through like, they're like sweat pants jeggings

Jessamyn 44:19 they're just like, their sweat pants. But as Do you just wear them not at the gym. You wear them to the movies. Fair enough. Think at any rate, it was fascinating. And yeah, maybe I'll actually read this thing but having to get dressed every day. Complicated. Yeah. Didn't didn't enjoy it.

Cortex 44:43 It's yeah, it's not great. I enjoy the work from home thing.

Jessamyn 44:47 Really dressed to go to conferences. You know, like if I'm going to the coffee shop in town. I can get like half dressed. Yeah, but like to go to a conference you need to wear like your top clothes and your random clothes.

Cortex 44:57 You got to do the whole schmeer. You gotta like Look like you knew you were leaving the house.

Jessamyn 45:02 Yeah. Earrings.

Unknown Speaker 45:05 Everything. The whole the whole deal.

Jessamyn 45:08 All of it. All right. Well, one more posts that I really liked. was Joseph girls post on the March on Washington in 1971. The Mayday action? Oh, I

Cortex 45:21 didn't see this.

Jessamyn 45:23 Yeah, it was it was cool. I mean, it was on the 22nd. I don't remember what day the Women's March was

Cortex 45:29 21st. So this would have been this. Yeah.

Jessamyn 45:33 Yeah, it was. It was. Yeah, it was that weekend. And it was just about a large scale protests that happened in DC that a lot of people don't know about. And it was cool.

Cortex 45:41 Thanks. Well, I have having not read it. I have nothing to add. So I'll take your word for

Jessamyn 45:54 perfect, but you know, I mean, I appreciate it, in addition to sort of all of the like, Hey, are you at the Women's March? What's going on? kind of stuff like I enjoy when people are able to make topical posts that are a different aspect of maybe the same kind of cultural phenomenon, but not about the actual thing. And I also I guess, would like to, if you don't mind, point out my own post about Wiarton. Willie, please proceed on Ontario's answer to pucks. Itani. Phil. Apparently, there are a whole bunch of different Groundhog Day mascots, but this is the one for Ontario. And apparently one year he died, like the one they use died right before Groundhog Day. So they couldn't find a replacement. So they had a little groundhog funeral.

Cortex 46:47 That's amazing. It's

Jessamyn 46:49 hilarious. The whole thing is amazing. And so they you know, had a little, a little, a little funeral. They put coins over his eyes and a carrot in his paws, maybe. Who knows. But then so wired and Willie is now more famous than he might have been otherwise. And so then people are making all sorts of jokes about you know, what the what the other groundhogs are. So like in Nova Scotia, there's, oh my god. Shubin, not Shubin, a Katy Sam, a famous Canadian, groundhog. And then that led me of course to the Wikipedia page of individual groundhogs, of course. And then, which is a subsection of the page individual rope, rodents, including crasher squirrel, and Twiggy the waterskiing skiing squirrel. And then the glorious page of individual mammals, which includes individual camels, individual giraffes, individual hippopotamuses, and then individual primates which is you know, broken down into individual apes and individual monkeys. Nice just great. Well, I think that's one of the reasons I like Wikipedia despite the fact that I find so many of the people that are so noxious the taxonomy is glorious Norris

Unknown Speaker 48:19 Hi, this is Greg ace, not to be confused with the most excellent Greg nog I'm keeping this voicemail short to avoid any nasty retort since indulging my whim risk reproach is quite grim. I do want you all to adored Oh, and having said that, it's Jeff goddamnit. Good evening word short here again. A one small point is requiring on the word herbs. Herbs being the plural of an encounter with leaves, seeds or flowers eautiful flavoring food medicine or perfume. Herbs is spelt haich E R V s and it is pronounced herbs. It is not pronounced herbs. There is no use in herbs. And also the H is pronounced herbs not hurt. Do you think? Hey, I

Jessamyn 49:20 just wanted y'all to know there's free bananas in the break room that's Oh, sorry.

Cortex 49:27 I'm just gonna hop along I was gonna say I wanted to mention this this uh, this post. Let's see who made this. Yes man made this post about I licked the bread. Which is just kind of amazing. It's it's it's a goofy little poem. Somebody's

Jessamyn 49:44 cat poem?

Cortex 49:46 Well, it's a cow poem formally but

Jessamyn 49:48 yeah, I knew it was C two letters and an animal's Yes, it's

Cortex 49:52 a cow but my name is cow and when it's night, or when the moon is shining bright, and all the men have gotten to bed. I stay up late. I I like the bread. I like the bread. I lick. It's lucky. Yes. The language is intentionally sort of mimicking, I think sort of like, like Middle English, Early Modern English spelling variations. Which is interesting. Yes. Yeah, people just ran with it. And it's funny. I love this because there's a bunch of but you're riffing with it. I am super angry and it's raining Florence Henderson, because he got to the this is just to say, first, and then I had to resort to red wheelbarrow instead. But yes, that's the other famous William Carlos Williams from so much depends upon a red wheelbarrow plays with rainwater beside the white chickens. It's a little. Yeah, it's good. It doesn't have plums, though. Nobody likes it. But it's another good one. Anyway, it's it's a delightful riffing thread. And the thread manifests some of the same issues that have come up in arguments on tumblr about the poem, which is like, is the idea that stuff is spelled wrong, because it's aping you know, earlier English, or is it being spelled wrong? And because it's like a low cap thing where animals can't spell well, and there's like, dichotomies and friction on the internet about this. And, and you see it right here,

Jessamyn 51:16 like making fun of people who don't know things is that

Cortex 51:19 well, no, no, no, I think it's like the idea of violating the violating the intention of the form of the poem. Like it was like, no, no, that the original poem was clearly using this meter, this eight line structure and misspellings are intended to evoke a specific period of English development. You can't just like do 12 lines and five syllables and say, I can have it's, you know, it's like a violation of the aesthetic grounds the poem, man, you know, people having, quote, unquote, serious arguments in, in Tumblr and stuff about it. But anyway, it was a very fun thread. I was delighted by it. It continues to burble on eyebrows, monkeys, his kids have contributed a few poems by Oh, great by recital at this point. So yeah, it's, it's great. Go read it. It's wonderful, as well as nice goofy Internet things.

Jessamyn 52:09 Awesome. And

Cortex 52:11 I could like I could like power through like six quickies here, if you want. Yeah, that's

Jessamyn 52:15 fine. I didn't have a lot of Metafilter this month. I did not spend as much time on Metafilter.

Cortex 52:19 Alright, I'll check this out. I

Jessamyn 52:20 have a lot of AskMe.

Cortex 52:21 All right. There was a post about a webcomic named WebKit. And yes, it's it's if you read the Internet, you have probably seen a couple of these comics around. They never they're like sort of almost it's a mystery looking ghosts type figures just abstract humans having colorful dilemmas in three panels. The third panel, which is always an expression of despair, oh, no at what has happened. It's real simple. And it's it's fantastic. And then someone Gursky made a comment tool for generating your own, you know, it's very limited, but it works, which is just kind of the perfect amount there of functionality. And so people started making their own using that tool as well. And it's a fun thread. It's

Jessamyn 53:16 one of them is just an arrival joke. Which has made me so furious. So that's makes me this makes me laugh.

Cortex 53:27 Also, in comics on the web, there is a nice comic of under pressure being sung by pigeons. It's not actually it's not an audio recording. It's just a it's a lengthy comic drying out and illustrating the lyrics as performed by pigeons. And it's delightful and you should go read it. There's not much else to say about that. Just check it out. There is a idiotic stunt somebody did on Amazon just to prove points where they made a book that's literally just a photograph of their own foot and become a number one best selling author by just using, you know, tweaking the system and aiming very small.

Jessamyn 54:12 Was the whole thing that they made it they made it cost a cent and then they bought 3000 of them or something and then yes,

Cortex 54:17 well, not even I think it was like $3 and they got like 20 friends to buy a copy or something. But they hit like a niche like, you know, they're the best selling author in some sub sub sub sub category. But as a result, Amazon declares them a number one best seller, or number one bestselling author for life on according to Amazon, so like so it's like, oh, I guess I'm sort of dumb little thing like that. So it's, it's interesting. It's a it's a funny thing. It's a nice short read. It's an interesting look at some of the weird edge cases of Amistad and stuff but it's also a pet thread full of just stupid body part puns. That started almost immediately and that sort of

Jessamyn 54:59 is the Name of the category. This is a great article. How did I miss this?

Cortex 55:03 It's good. And then yeah, come for the article stay for the terrible puns.

Jessamyn 55:08 It's dreadful of Jaipuri. Yep.

Cortex 55:10 So it was pretty much perfect. There was this amazing article about a tweet that the Oreo marketing team, or a marketing agency working for Oreo did back in 2013, during the blackout at the Super Bowl,

Jessamyn 55:29 you know, I've read like the title of this post. And I didn't understand what the heck was going on

Cortex 55:36 the definitive oral history of the Oreo, you can still dunk in the dark Super Bowl tweet. I, it's apparent, it was a big deal at the time in digital marketing and social media marketing. And there's actually a really good comment late in the thread. I mean, there's a bunch of discussion about is this satire? Is this real? And it is real, you know, what's going on here and people arguing to some extent about whether or not this is legitimately interesting, or just a bunch of ad people being completely full of themselves, or maybe sort of somewhere in between?

Jessamyn 56:07 Because I've never heard of this, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything, you know, that I wouldn't

Cortex 56:13 have been failing track of Twitter on Super Bowl Sunday, four years ago, looking for Oreo tweets. So blue milker came in, sort of later in the thread and, and said, You know, it's it's, it's nice to see people having this sort of reaction, because marketing is ridiculous that I work in it, but

Jessamyn 56:39 we're not marketing people. Yeah.

Cortex 56:41 But you know, they also have the context. So so they sort of lay out the context that isn't in the the article, because the article I think was written for the specific audience that would like oh, yeah, fuck yeah, the Oreo tweet. And everyone else was like, what? And so the article just comes off as like. But yeah, so. So blue milk, or Laos lays out a nice several paragraphs and sort of context and making the point that like, the interesting thing about the tweet was the

Jessamyn 57:07 timely the timeliness and how Yeah, like, that's so normal

Cortex 57:11 now. But like four years ago, that was still no, we got to put an IG agency, we got to give this like, you know, six weeks of lead time, right?

Jessamyn 57:19 It's got to be approved. It's gotta go up the food chain. Okay, I get it. Well, that helps contextualize it a lot.

Cortex 57:24 So it's, it's an interesting thing overall. And I maintained that the actual article as written is fucking ridiculous, just because it is so breathless. But you know, it's in its context. I'm sure it sort of makes more sense. And it's interesting how much it being dependent on that context affects whether or not at seems like fucking ridiculous or Oh, okay, this is a peek into a little bit of industry lore. Right. Two more quick things, and then we'll move right to ask Metafilter one is, there is a new and I'm sure you know, I'm going to bring this up as soon as I bring it up, but there's a new Neil sissy Arabia album that I made a post about and I don't fucking I saw

Jessamyn 58:03 you on this. I was worried for five minutes that maybe you didn't know about this. Yeah, I was come out because Griffis was posting this

Cortex 58:12 I was so excited about it. I mouth sounds and mouth silence I've talked about many times before in the podcast, and this is the third one. It's called mouth moods. And it's fantastic. I think it's the best one yet. And I was tweeting about it. To me, it's important to me, I was tweeting about it before Andy Bale was before waxy got to it. I got to it as Yes, I am. I'm fucking I'm still on the internet. I still got it. I'm still here. I mean, he got to it like 10 minutes later. So like he was he was he was around he just, you know, anyway, it's exciting. It's wonderful. Go listen to it's goofy. I love those albums. And the new one is fantastic. And then listen to all again over and over again and cope somehow with everything that's going on. Is my advice to you. And one last thing, this guy

Jessamyn 58:58 blah, blah, sports ball. Yeah, and you're always like, shut up. Super Bowl was actually pretty fucking great. Yeah, I do have a hard like, I don't get this at all. You know, like, this dude is a cultural phenomenon that I do not understand.

Cortex 59:11 No, and that's fine, too. Like, I don't think I don't think it's like, objectively everybody will like this. But Sure. And I sure do.

Jessamyn 59:17 Oh, speaking of which, was there a fanfare Super Bowl thread, like, Did

Cortex 59:20 you you know, we didn't we didn't make a ton of noise about it. But we we did set it up and stick a pointer to it. And there was some chatter in there. I didn't I didn't check on it. Once the game had actually started. I went off to ignore the Super Bowl party with some friends. And

Jessamyn 59:33 yeah, well, I noticed that I just I'm sorry to derail you to talk about but I was just, I was, yeah, it didn't get as much. It didn't get as much.

Cortex 59:43 I don't think the Super Bowl quite so much this year. You know, for some reason, you know, that there just wasn't the same level of excitement and energy. I don't know.

Jessamyn 59:52 Yeah.

Cortex 59:55 So yes, there's one last post I mentioned. This was a post by chains of freedom. about a guy who makes sweaters of places and then takes pictures of himself wearing the sweaters at those places. And that's the whole thing and I was so excited about this. I looked up and he's a guy named Sam Barsky and he posts stuff.

Jessamyn 1:00:14 I saw this on milkshake, baby.

Cortex 1:00:18 I got a few got posted on okay. It's great. He's just like, it's, it's exactly what it sounds like. He's just this nice guy who does this goofy thing?

Jessamyn 1:00:26 Well, and he's sloppier than you would think he is, though.

Cortex 1:00:29 Ya know, he's like, he's like, he's like some dude, you know? Right. And it's fantastic. And you should go look at his stuff. And it's great. And, and he's got a sweater. He's one of his sweaters. Is a sweater decorated with a bunch of his other sweaters. He knitted miniature versions of various other sweaters he's knitted. On a sweater and cheese. I love this guy. It's the best. And that's that's

Jessamyn 1:00:54 more images. So I missed it. Yeah, there's a bunch. There's a bunch. Oh, llama sweater. Ooh, pumpkin sweater.

Cortex 1:00:59 You guys been doing this for years? I feel tower sweater shark sweater.

Jessamyn 1:01:03 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yep. Because what a random weird habit. Right? Like, does he have a blog? Like, like, just it's

Cortex 1:01:16 just his Facebook pages where you can tell? Yeah. Which I mean, it's probably kind of a slow, like, I think there's like one Twitter a month. So you know, it'd be a slow updating blog. So yeah, whatever.

Jessamyn 1:01:26 No, now I'm looking at his Facebook page, the artistic knitting of Sam Barsky. Great. It's fantastic. There's a live video of him knitting asleep. Nice. The whole thing is great.

Cortex 1:01:40 Yep. All right. So that's that's me. And that's metaphysical. Shall we? Shall we

Jessamyn 1:01:44 were a groundhog sweater on Groundhog Day. What? Yes, of course.

Cortex 1:01:48 Oh, that's that's nice.

Jessamyn 1:01:51 Yeah. Yeah, he's, you know, a port upon it,

Unknown Speaker 1:01:55 patrol. Patrol, patrolling on the throttles over the wide patrol. Dark Side.

Jessamyn 1:02:24 All right, so is AskMe Metafilter. Next, I guess it would have to be right

Cortex 1:02:28 by process of elimination.

Jessamyn 1:02:31 Well, we could start talking about better talk right now. Just to

Cortex 1:02:34 just to fuck with them. They thought we do. They thought we knew where the fuck it. Yeah, tell me about us. Medical Judas man.

Jessamyn 1:02:40 Well, I enjoyed as Metafilter because there were lots of things that were relevant to my interests. So specifically, as I think I told you, we went over to my sister's house to watch the Super Bowl. My sister's got two cats. Two cats used to be my dad's cats. They're fussy cats who require things, including a cat sound, which whatever some cats are weird, they require this. But my sister's cat fountain is like kind of noisy. And like the guest room is like right by the cat fountain. And so you can't move the cat fountain because maybe the cats can't find their water and something terrible will happen. And so it's always been this thing where I kind of go like fuck with the cat fountain after she goes to bed because it makes this irritating noise. And I've been kinda like, dude. And she's like, wow, what can you do? Cat fountains are noisy and I'm like, No, they're not yours is like fucked up. And she's like, No, it isn't. And so I then I read this thread, which is basically misanthropic Sara being like, my cat can't drink out of the bathroom sink. I need a cat found. And Jamar arrow who as you know, has like, like little secret genius areas and every now and again dumps a new secret Geez area is basically like, yeah, okay, here's what I made for $11. And it's perfect out of a bucket, an aquarium filter, and it's just amazing. And so I was all set to like go to my sister's with $11 where the bucket and filter and being like bucket. This is what your cats are doing now and I'm gonna get to sleep when I sleep here. But her old cat fountain had finally completely fallen apart and broken. And so she had bought a new one. And it turned out the old one was in fact fucked because the new one is silent.

Cortex 1:04:20 Well, there you go.

Jessamyn 1:04:22 So I enjoyed the thread by misanthropic Sarah I enjoyed Jamara dropping some science on the whole thing and giving a whole bunch of you know, there's a there's a photo in a later comment, you know, talking about how her cats can tip it over. So if you don't really care how it looks. It's the perfect, you know, it's people are going to be talking about this cat fountain for years. Because it's it's, it's just perfect. You know? It's like Oreo tweet. Perfect. Cat fountain.

Cortex 1:04:50 Yeah, perfect. Nice. Yeah.

Jessamyn 1:04:54 So aside from that, there was one that got wrapped up really quickly. He, just this afternoon like literally in nine minutes, like you've been worrying about a thing. And you don't have to worry about it. It's somebody who's, I believe married to someone who's Irish, they're American. Let me let me check. They live in the US. The Irish parent lives in the US. The parent wants the kids to also have Irish citizenship, but they're getting hung up on the paperwork, because there's all these documents. But then it turns out as long as one parent is an Irish citizen, you don't need to do that. And the user says, that is the best possible answer. And it was nine minutes in and help solve this person smokes. That's excellent. Yeah. Yeah. Just made me just made me happy.

Cortex 1:05:43 Good Job asked me the filter.

Jessamyn 1:05:46 And another one that is relevant to my interests is pretty straightforward food. Post by rush that speaks How does spaghetti squash do the thing?

Cortex 1:05:59 I I guess I mean, I guess I can guess what like, like, like, it's got that weird texture? Yeah.

Jessamyn 1:06:05 Yeah, it's like noodles. How does it like noodles? And Juliet thumbscrew shows jewel thumbscrew. Jewel. Never occurred to me i o tool, some screw. Okay. I always thought that was Julia. thumbscrew. Nope. And basically, it's like, oh, it's got alternating deposits of high methyl ox and pectin. And low methoxy. Oh, pectin. One dissolves. The other does not strenx. Bam.

Cortex 1:06:29 That's like, that's a straight up answer. That's nice. Yeah, well, cuz I

Jessamyn 1:06:33 was all like, wow. You know, because I eat it. So I think that makes me some kind of an expert.

Cortex 1:06:41 I refrain from me to get I'm not I'm not down with a spaghetti squash.

Jessamyn 1:06:45 Oh, really? Like you just don't like it or?

Cortex 1:06:48 No, no, no, no, no just texture. Like I don't like it. I have trouble with a variety of squashes. But I've made some progress here, like and I like a zucchini just fine. So

Jessamyn 1:06:56 here's what I found that helped me really change my mind about spaghetti squash. I don't know if it'll work for you or not. And of course, spaghetti squash is really one of those optional things, because it's not like you're gonna show up and it's gonna be at a restaurant. I make lasagna with it.

Cortex 1:07:09 I would I would be so angry. If I tried to eat spaghetti squash lasagna, I'd be like,

Jessamyn 1:07:14 I mean, I make it as lasagna. Like not that I hide it in lasagna. Well,

Cortex 1:07:18 no, no, no, but that's what I'm saying. Like I have a very, like, I really like lasagna. And I have a very specific sense of what it is. I like about lasagna. If I was in there, I just like, I'd be like flipping a table over.

Jessamyn 1:07:30 Just like no noodles. It's just spaghetti squash and sauce. And then you put cheese lasagna, it's more of a spaghetti squash. Tomato casserole. So I'm just saying like, is it something else would that help?

Cortex 1:07:43 Yeah, the two things would help with something else and didn't try and get me to eat up. Those those provisions applying I am super onboard go crazy for it. Like I don't mind that other people eat it. I just

Jessamyn 1:07:55 right. You don't like it? You don't like it? It's a point of contention.

Cortex 1:07:58 Because Secretary actually really likes the squash of of sort of all sorts. So it's it's tricky. discerning palate. Yeah. So I have to be like, no, no, you can totally do that. I don't want to but you can totally eat that.

Jessamyn 1:08:10 But I don't want right. Yeah, that's what I am with Jim. And like mushrooms and olives. Yeah, like, go nuts. I'm not doing it.

Cortex 1:08:16 Yeah. Which is tricky, because we tend to like sort of like cook meals for both of us. So we have to sort of navigate that. Right? Actually, I had a speaking of Secretary she tossed a couple asks, she liked my way that I had not seen that I quite like one of which is this? Oh, this is from seal search from like about a week and a half ago. I need to move a rock in my backyard that's too big to move. How do you move a rock? And like the first answer out of the gate was a good description from sunburnt of how it works. And then there were some pretty great links in there from other people saying, oh, yeah, here's a here's an illustration of how that works. And and then still serve came back to say, awesome, I looked, and I'm gonna do that. And they moved the rock. Nice. So yes.

Jessamyn 1:09:08 Hey, that's great. You know, I've been thinking about putting giant rocks in my backyard, like really massive ones. And that has been one of the things like at my dad's place so that has been one of the things that has been stopping me is I'm totally afraid I'm gonna get it part of the way there and then be stuck and not have a posse. Yeah, who could help. I missed that entirely. That's a great thread. I had a two media threads that I liked a lot. One of which was by think long. I like quiet books by diverse authors. So like books that are kind of descriptive, not a lot of drama stuff going on. You know, sensitive books, whatever, but not by the usual sort of white dudes

Cortex 1:09:58 throwing literally You'd be opposite of a Dan Brown novel.

Jessamyn 1:10:04 Yeah. And so there's a lot of really good advice in there. It's the kind of book that I like to that I kind of marked it. And then another thing that is like, Oh, hey, I like that too is opposed by fork is better. Who just watched live revenant and british series Penny Dreadful. What are other awesome non US shows? And, you know, I kinda like drama more than comedy. I'm looking for creative writing. You know, I enjoyed the Scandinavian murder mysteries. You know, what else? What else is out there?

Cortex 1:10:36 Yeah. Excellent. And we're watching Penny Dreadful right now and really enjoying it. So

Jessamyn 1:10:40 what is Penny Dreadful? I

Cortex 1:10:42 don't know. It's a late 19th century sort of Gothic Horror mashup series. So you got Dr. Frankenstein and his monster and also a werewolf and also, you know, Dracula and Mina Harker and various witchery and so on. All just,

Jessamyn 1:10:59 but it's but it's good. Yeah. It's I mean, if you watched grim at all, yeah, it's grim is off, very

Cortex 1:11:06 different tone, very, very different tone, no trick. But Penny Dreadfuls more of a sort of self serious, but still kind of fun, spooky sort of drama. With with monsters. And it's really good. I'm really enjoying it. The first season was nice. The second season, I feel like it's sort of said, Okay, now we know what we're doing. Let's really go for it. And it's, it's good stuff. And it would be good, even if you like don't know, like, classic Gothic Horror, but it's, it's all that much more fun. You're like, Oh, I see what they're doing with it. It's got the same sense as we're like playing with the source material as like, sort of Hannibal had with the actual books from that series, where it's like, this isn't our Frankenstein goes, but

Jessamyn 1:11:51 this is what I like what they're doing.

Cortex 1:11:53 And it's interesting, and it's fun. And so they're definitely having a good time. So yeah, yeah, no, that's great. This is a I'm going to favorite this now. Because we will probably Yeah,

Jessamyn 1:12:04 there was another one, which I can't find right now. But it was somebody who likes like real hard science, like, kind of body horror, sci fi. In fact, I should be able to find it because I commented on it. It wasn't that long ago.

Cortex 1:12:17 While you look for it, I'll mention also this one Jerseyans asked about short American horror fiction by others who aren't

Jessamyn 1:12:25 Christians. I have always said your sense.

Cortex 1:12:28 I did for many years

Jessamyn 1:12:29 to and then eventually. All right. I mean, I know He lives out near you, or at least used to. Yeah, no, he still does.

Cortex 1:12:34 He gets out of meetup like once every three years or so. It's nice when we see him. We didn't reasonably do sins, Jesus done a lot of political work, and I sort of assume he may be fairly busy right now. activist work on so I saw this too. So short American horror fiction by authors who aren't white men. So it's sort of in the same wheelhouse, but different genre and style.

Jessamyn 1:12:58 Yeah. And the one I found which doesn't have that, prerequisite was, you know, what's this decades blood music by Greg bear kind of a bio horror, you know, mitochondria and Ferrando lay kind of like stuff that gets in your blood and then does the thing. Yeah. turbid Dahlia really likes those books. But what are some other ones? And I had some suggestions because I like those kinds of books specifically, too. But it was good to read other people's suggestions. Yeah. And after like, go and meta talk again and encourage people to work on the readme. Oh, yeah. Wiki page, especially since we've been talking about the wiki

Cortex 1:13:39 came up today. I think since I don't work today, I've been trying not to look too much at stuff, but the

Jessamyn 1:13:44 good man, good, man. So readme hasn't been updated since 2014. Which is terrible. No, you know, so Well, I mean, I haven't updated it either. So nobody's updated it. But that would, you know, put in a little plug like, Hey, you could add some, add some books to the booklet.

Cortex 1:14:03 You could make a metaphoric post if you want. I promise. I'll put it through. Ah,

Jessamyn 1:14:08 very exciting. But no, fuck it. I don't work for you know. I mean, maybe eventually, but not right now.

Cortex 1:14:18 It was nice to do that.

Jessamyn 1:14:20 I did. But it wasn't

Cortex 1:14:23 it was that since the last podcast we're right before the last podcast if you work those couple of days.

Jessamyn 1:14:28 Right before the very end of

Cortex 1:14:31 so we talked about last time then. Well, that was the thing that happened. All right.

Jessamyn 1:14:35 That was super super fun.

Cortex 1:14:40 Do you have more ask.

Jessamyn 1:14:42 I think that's mostly it except for the noted without comment, which we're just gonna put in the links and I'm not gonna say a word about oh, yeah,

Cortex 1:14:48 that one. Okay. Yeah. Okay, let's move on. Actually, you know, there was a there was one other fun one that Secretary had sent my way this was

Jessamyn 1:15:02 why don't we have her on the podcast? I think we should everyone seems to pay attention to the website and

Cortex 1:15:07 she does know I would like to have her on I'll check with her you know, I don't want to declare that she will be because maybe he doesn't feel like being okay.

Jessamyn 1:15:13 This is really weird that you have just included this. Yeah, because Jim and I have both been talking about roller shoes. In the last 12 hours, there was two kids at the supermarket last night who had them and he like we have this like subject line back because you know, we email each other multiple times a day every day. And so you can't think of new subject lines so we have subject lines that just have like a format you know, and make jokes inside him. But one of his was about Healy's before he knew that I saw kids in the supermarket with Healy's and now this that's my flabbergasted noise. Alright, keep going.

Cortex 1:15:51 Well, this is this is metronome, asking for costume ideas featuring roller shoes, because they're going to a party. It's a costume event thing, and there's big flat spaces be great for gliding long. And so what would be some good costume ideas for, for that context to incorporate the roller shoes? People had a bunch of fun suggestions. You know, it's not, it's not a huge threat. Like that's probably you know, maybe it doesn't comments, but you know, people had fun suggestions, and one of them was like Jamiroquai do virtual insanity. And that's what they did. So I don't know if we'll ever get Pics or anything, but just knowing that that happened. I'm delighted.

Jessamyn 1:16:27 Oh, I hope so. That would be cool.

Cortex 1:16:31 So yeah, there's other we should talk about fun stuff and potentially serious stuff for meta talk. And

Jessamyn 1:16:39 well, one of the things I've been talking about meta talk is that I appreciate people really making an effort with the morale posts. I love eyebrows, McGee's meta talk tale that she does. Yeah. We're doing Women's March. Yes. Which is very important. And we should mention before next month starts why don't I include some links here instead of Sure.

Cortex 1:17:04 We're going to add a new direction, no citations.

Jessamyn 1:17:07 Yeah, so satrix basically was like, Hey, how about women's march for next month, and you can follow the meta talk tails tag to see the posts about, you know, here's a conversation topic, go eyebrows, McKeel posts a little post, and I appreciate those so that people can kind of get together and

Cortex 1:17:28 yeah, and I think that's going to be just sort of like a weekly thing. Now, it works pretty well. You know, she's, she's her normal, she pulls, you know, evenings on the weekends. So the site tends to be relatively quiet, too. So it's like a good excuse to have something for people to do if they're just looking for somewhere to go chill out.

Jessamyn 1:17:44 Right, but it gives you something to talk about so that people don't have to just play grab ass and you know, read threads that aren't about that exactly. crap on somebody's groundhog thread key. But yeah, Greg nog had his kind of you made it. You're proud of it? Let's see it. Yeah. Billy be had the love in thread. And you guys, did you want to talk about the political button that I haven't even clicked? Oh, totally. Yeah. I don't want to.

Cortex 1:18:12 I do want to, like people were into it. Yeah, it's been it's been a really good, I'll jump back for a second and say the union that you're proud of it. Thread really great. Like, it's, it's just great, because it's, it's one of the things that not only it's fun to sort of sit around chat, but like, there's literally like so much. People saying, Oh, hey, here's the thing I made. Here's a link to it. And it's just you could, you could spend a day in there. It's really rad. So like, if you want to go see cool stuff, the people on the site are making, just like independent of the site just like stuff people do. It's a really neat thread. So that's one of my favorites. I'm slowly plowing through when I get a chance. But yeah, so the political the political widget. We just rolled this out. Yesterday.

Jessamyn 1:18:57 I just found out about it today. So yeah, yesterday, it looks like

Cortex 1:19:00 yeah, we just rolled this out yesterday afternoon. This is a new sidebar widget it's down under the contact at tivity sidebar and above the new and noteworthy sidebar links. Something you can just enable if you want to strip most of the political related posts off of the default view the front page which is something you could do with my Mefi with some like tag filter,

Jessamyn 1:19:29 I just clicked the minus did that do anything that just riding the

Cortex 1:19:33 waves? I just hope that we did we get to work on how to like, okay, that because it's a problem. We talked about that for like hours over the over the weekend, about how best to position stuff. And then that's one thing

Jessamyn 1:19:42 we didn't all mean to be like your user experience sucks. No, no.

Cortex 1:19:46 It's because like it happened. It's happened to several people. They're like, why don't get it's not working. I was like, Well, that's because you did something that made total sense, but wasn't the thing we wanted you to think to do. So we got to figure that out. Still

Jessamyn 1:20:00 But you just say hide widget right? Or hide? I don't know. Yeah.

Cortex 1:20:05 Good luck. Yep, exactly. But the actual thing it does, yeah, you click on the oh, it says claps that makes sense. Yeah. If you if you hit the main link in there, I'm not even looking for things. Remember the verbiage would land I'm looking at the thing. What is the link say that makes the post not be visible? Hide US political posts us pull away?

Jessamyn 1:20:24 Where's that?

Cortex 1:20:26 Are you in classic, or art see may have very slightly different phrasing on classic versus modern. Anyway, don't even worry about me. There's there's a link of lit a list of links in the sidebar and a hide posts. Link. And if you click on the high post links, the list of links go away. And also the front page will no longer show anything that's tagged with the POTUS 45 tag, which is just the general purpose, stuff about the current administration, and, and related matters tag are using. So if you're like, if you're like, Man, I really like going to metal filter to get away from fucking politics. You can click this and boom, they'll sort of they'll sort of not be there as your browsing

Jessamyn 1:21:13 fade a little bit more into the background. Yeah.

Cortex 1:21:14 And it doesn't mean you work for you too. It does not work for admins, we decided we should not have the posts magically disappear as much as I would like for that to be a possibility. I would love

Jessamyn 1:21:27 to see it like, you know, five days from now be like, Man, this kid's got totally out of control and have one of the mods. Oh, oh,

Cortex 1:21:35 I hit that. No, we don't get to use it. We actually set it up so that if we if we activate it while in like the admin view, the post just don't go away. Yeah. bug testing difficulty when we're trying to figure out like, it's broken. Oh, no. Oh, wait, no,

Jessamyn 1:21:50 I mean, that in the lobby, you guys have like test your counsel, right?

Cortex 1:21:53 Yeah, no, it's not a problem. It's just goofiness. Anyway, the whole, the whole idea is you can sort of get away from that temporarily or permanently if you want in Brooklyn front page. But also, if it's not set to filter stuff out, it's also got that little list of links, and that sort of links to

Jessamyn 1:22:11 that seems super helpful for the people to want that people like what's surfacing it anymore for anyone else.

Cortex 1:22:17 Yeah. If you're like, what's the current catch all thread? You know, or hey, is there a thread about the fucking Steve Bannon being on the National Security Council? Now you can sort of like yeah, look at this. Oh, yeah, there is rather than having to search or whatever. So yeah, and yeah, people seem to like it so far. I think we're gonna see some ongoing sort of figuring out the details as we figure out what exactly should and should not fall under the umbrella of it. You know, I think there's gonna be some edge case stuff where there's stuff that like, there's weird sort of goofy internet culture. riffing on the existence of this situation, that might not really be a politics post, but at the same time for someone's like, I need to not see fucking Trump all day might be like, Well, I don't need to see this Trump related meme either, even if it's not really a politics post. So we'll sort of suss that stuff out as we go. But yeah, it seems to be working people seem to like it.

Jessamyn 1:23:14 I thought I thought it was cool. I mean, you know, it seems like something that super helps people without inconveniencing other people. Nice. Nice. Nice job.

Cortex 1:23:21 That's that's the aim. So yeah.

Jessamyn 1:23:25 I have to say that. I Miss Miss Molly, my friend who? Oh, yeah. Early in January and Quinn. Yep. Ah, we had to sort of users people have heard about, yeah, there were open posts for, in case people. I mean, I don't know who listens to the podcast, who isn't also reading meta talk, but just FYI. Yeah.

Cortex 1:23:45 Yeah, it was kind of a rough, lurching start to the year that right there.

Jessamyn 1:23:52 Yes. In addition to all the other reasons. Yeah,

Cortex 1:23:55 exactly. There is a nice thread about sort of activism and march and protest stuff and so on that exact started about a week ago, basically saying, Hey, did you go to the protests this weekend or last weekend? What else are you have to share your picture your experiences, and if you're sort of looking for a sense of like, what people are up to and just sort of updates from where medical people are, it's a nice read for that. So I heartily recommend it.

Jessamyn 1:24:25 A lot of that kind of Boston area. mefite people have been getting out and about more than they might otherwise have been. And so that's, that's been cool.

Cortex 1:24:34 Yep. And that's about all I can think of, maybe that's it. That might be it. For metal talk. I will mention real quick one, great IRL that people should know about if they are in the Chicago area.

Jessamyn 1:24:53 Chicago people always put on such a good

Cortex 1:24:55 Chicago is a good time to go to a meet up in if you ever live in

Jessamyn 1:24:57 Daly. I just saw it. Watch me winter. In pain, why not? It's

Cortex 1:25:01 Biblical, but that's a good point. That would be a pretty good guest as a blind item.

Jessamyn 1:25:05 Wait a second. So there's a tattoo exhibit, and you can get a tattoo.

Cortex 1:25:12 It sounds like like 36 people are getting tattoos at this Field Museum tattoo exhibit, and one of them is Biblio girl. And so go hang out with her and ENIAC, while she gets tattooed in a museum, which sounds amazing. I would be there because that's so great.

Jessamyn 1:25:31 She's the nicest too. I follow. I follow her on Instagram and I just love like her, you know, her set of photos. She's recently ish married and it's just been it's been fun to to see all those so sorry, I couldn't make it that sounds super cool.

Cortex 1:25:47 Yeah. I have a couple other things. Oh, happy happy news from speaking of Canadians but Vancouver here although and smile such are gay. They're adorable. And they've been a couple for a while and they've come down to Portland. We've seen them in Vancouver a couple times but but now they're, they're they're they're they're making it official. So

Jessamyn 1:26:15 Good on you fellas.

Cortex 1:26:18 Oh, and I did you know I meant I mentioned those albums from from from projects earlier. But I will do a Music Minute that is actually less than a minute for once because it's just gonna be one song that I was reminded of because you just commented earlier today.

Jessamyn 1:26:34 Somebody mentioned it in the delight thread that I whoever

Cortex 1:26:39 excellent Yes. Eric grands classic music track Moon Patrol.

Jessamyn 1:26:44 But draw. Oh, sorry. That's got to be

Cortex 1:26:46 no no, that's fine. Yes, love the song

Jessamyn 1:26:50 each year and magnets delightful side of metal filter thread. Yeah, yeah. And who mentioned this one? Oh, bar Chan. Who's I've been seeing around a lot lately. I believe bartender recently just sort of quit her job. Yes. Solidarity. Yeah. Wanting to work for the the evil empire. Yeah, anymore, which was very interesting. But bartender also said how much she really loved Moon Patrol and so I went listen to it again and forgot how much I really love every

Cortex 1:27:28 time like every time I listen to this it's the best goddamn thing in the world. Yeah, I think I think she wrote about quitting her job in that this is what democracy Yeah,

Jessamyn 1:27:40 no, here it is. Thread. Yeah, yeah. So thumbs up our chat

Cortex 1:27:46 and covering the gamut I mentioned fan for I think we mentioned at the start but like here is the Super Bowl thread. Which Yes, now it has 174 comments it had 11 When I looked at it on the day so clearly I just missed so many

Jessamyn 1:28:01 comments for like not only a Super Bowl but like that was for those who didn't really watch it it was kind of a lively determined and overtime like big deal like no Superbowl has ever gone into overtime before game so I'm surprised there aren't more but I guess the me fight Superbowl watcher overlap is not it's not so much yeah. Are they are they were chatting on Twitter or something?

Cortex 1:28:25 Yeah, and you know it's we didn't put like a banner for doing what we didn't want to go like for

Jessamyn 1:28:30 anybody was there just talking

Cortex 1:28:33 on the sidebar? So like it was findable but there hadn't been like a magnet talk discussion about whether there would be one or anything like that to prime it so I think it was it was there for the people that went looking pretty much yeah, so Okay, good enough. Yeah, I don't know I think that I may be done with metal filter content now. I don't know if I have anything else I need to mention. It's been a weird time. It's been a weird weird time and and gosh, I am really glad the site is here as much as it's been weird trying to help people deal with the weirdness on the site at times. It's nice to have this as a as a home base. And they I just really appreciate it being there and people being here. Yeah,

Jessamyn 1:29:17 I totally know how you feel. I also did and I enjoyed getting to go to a meet up and it's nice to have a place where I feel like I can talk to people about a lot of the the weird crazy and the bad crazy that are going on nowadays. Yeah, yeah. I am right there with you.

Cortex 1:29:33 So yeah. Well, shall we call it I think that's a podcast. I think we did it.

Jessamyn 1:29:39 I think we did it. I think it was thanks work. It's always great talking to you everybody gear up for women's march because that'll start before probably the next podcast. And we'll have a you know, another Colin show in another couple months. That was fun. Yep. Cool, man. All right. Good talking to you. Good talking to you too. Goodbye.

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