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A transcript for Episode 143: Sisters, Am I Right? (2018-08-02.)

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Jessamyn: Hey, you want to get started on that?

Cortex: So Hey, welcome to Episode 143 of Best of the web Podcast. I am Josh cortex Maillard. Hey, hey, hey. Yeah, I'm Jasmine. And and here we are doing a podcast with the thing. We're using some new software. Seeing how that goes. It should be basically indistinguishable for everyone listening. Bless your

Unknown: heart.

Unknown: Whether whether whether it was. We'll see what happens.

Unknown: Jasmine's constant complaining about it.

Cortex: Well, yeah. But like in principle, we could just be doing some like long haul joke all podcast long about

Cortex: about how we're totally using some software. I

Jessamyn: barely can keep track of short haul jokes to

Cortex: make you explain jokes to me. I could be the longest Hall of all, you could actually literally be Andy Kaufman for all I know, this is like a years long project,

Jessamyn: right? And it's all just Josh explains jokes to me. But I honestly get them.

Cortex: It is August the first we're actually recording at the top of the month and you put it out today. But

Cortex: I've been working evenings. So like having some time to feel to edit the podcast is now a better fit for my shift traditionally has been,

Jessamyn: and I've been working for a couple days, Philly or whoever is on vacation. So I've

Unknown: been on vacation. So you

Unknown: do a few shifts and a

Unknown: little bit more plugged into this. I think it's been fun. I do have a 130 43

Unknown: bit of information. Oh, tell me tell me about 143.

Cortex: Wow. You know, all these numbers are getting pretty dull, right? But 143 we need to make a rule where we can't say they're getting don't we just have to say the interesting thing or not this doesn't feel like

Cortex: a long running marriage that's gotten well past its prime. And you know

Unknown: where the lock the lock aren't

Unknown: always

Jessamyn: so. But 143 I'm on Mister Rogers Neighborhood stands for I love you. Because one stands for I which is one letter for for love, which is four letters and three, which is you for three letters. So 143 is I love you. And reportedly I'm reading from Wikipedia here. Mr. Rogers kept his waited 143 pounds for the last 30 years of his life. And I knew that he was kind of like a weight control guy, because he didn't want kids to see him change, which was both like, kind of cool, and kind of weird. I mean, I'm in on team, Mr. Rogers. But I always found that interesting. And he always associated the number with the phrase, I love you. So this is the I Love You podcast. It's so

Cortex: nice. It's so nice to hear about a number that is the secret code for something. That's not not the bullshit.

Unknown: Real relief.

Jessamyn: No, yeah, yeah. No, I'm right with you. How many numbers have the Nazis ruined at this point? Yeah,

Cortex: yeah, sorry, I took that into the Nazi doctor for a second.

Cortex: But, but Mr. Rogers Yes. Yeah. And he would do stuff like, like,

Unknown: keep

Cortex: that stuff in wardrobe stuff really consistent. So someone was just talking about this recently. So that like, if you needed to go reshoot a segment to modernize it, because, like, times have changed, and something was sort of, like, faded, not really fitting, right. You can just, like, redo it. That's, that's, that's, I'm serious, like, ideological commit production style. Like, I appreciate that, that whole thing,

Cortex: but yeah, I mean, which is, which is the same thing with a podcast, this is, this is why it's always just like, you know,

Cortex: we're using these carefully developed vocal synthesizers instead of our real voices, hoping to go back and change the podcast 10 years later. We can just plug it in.

Cortex: I don't know where I'm going with this. I was gonna say, I,

Unknown: they're hoping. But yeah, I

Cortex: had the idea. But I didn't have the material. I had nothing to actually, you know, go with on that. Well,

Unknown: I mean,

Jessamyn: early in the day compared to late in the day.

Cortex: Yeah, ya know, we're recording this. It's a little bit after eight pacific time. Now. Now, now that now that I'm working evening shifts, I don't need to get up early. So my alarm is off most the time, but it's still set for like 10 minutes before seven. So when I do need to get up I can. And I got up this morning and pay myself a nice cup of coffee. And I've got some energy and we're not going to have one of those. Oh, why did we do this early episodes

Jessamyn: well, and I wake up at seven now for no reason. And it's weird for me. Like I had a phone meeting at 930. And I set my alarm. just hoping maybe this would be the day I would get a lot of sleep. I don't know what it is. It's like summer. It's

Cortex: just happening. Yeah, I mean, there's that whole sunlight thing.

Unknown: I sleep in a hat that I pulled down over my eyes. I do not have a problem with

Cortex: your internal internal clocks. Just Yeah.

Jessamyn: And I don't just go to bed earlier and wake up earlier. It's not like I'm not getting any sleep. It just all the sudden you wake up at seven now. Okay.

Unknown: I don't even hate it.

Jessamyn: It's so crazy. I used to set my alarm for an 11 o'clock podcast. Josh

Cortex: I've never I've never really understood the sleeping late thing like I can, in principle sleep in and maybe it'll change as the days get shorter. And it's not bright in the morning. But I think some extent we have we have one of our cats has become is it both noisy cat? Yeah, both. Both face was the most wonderful cat in the world. Except occasionally just absolutely frustrating. And mostly it's when it's sleeping time. And she wants to me out at us. And we're getting better at just sort of like ignoring it. And instead of like, responding to it, which we're hoping we'll get her to stop trying so hard. Nothing. That might be working a bit. But yeah, between the sun coming up early in the cat not shutting the fuck up. Sometimes it's like, Okay, well, sleeping. It is.

Unknown: I guess it's morning now. Yeah,

Cortex: I mean, one of us could say, if, if I get up or eventually gets up, Bodie will shut the fuck up and just go hang out with whoever's up. But like, if we're both still in bed, like she'll come back. Everyone's wanted to go. Hey, are you sure? You don't want to get up? I mean, I'm awake. And it's like a cat. I don't know. Going to talk about this. You got

Jessamyn: to sleep with the door open. So she'd go in and out. Yeah, if

Cortex: we if we slept with the door closed, she would sit outside of the whole night yelling Ha. Whereas with an open she wanders in the house for a while and then gives up and then maybe try again later. Haha.

Unknown: It's cats. Man. I love

Jessamyn: my sister's. Got a bunch of cats. And I'm always fascinated at you know how much you can maybe do with them? And then how much you can just maybe not do with them? Yeah,

Cortex: it depends a lot on the cap. And body is pretty great. So we dealt with it. But but come on. Cat. You're, you're so close to being perfect. And instead, you're very, very not perfect.

Cortex: Should we talk about stuff on medical tour? I guess we could do that. Like the old jobs. I

Jessamyn: would like to. Yeah, there's a fascinating job. It's not. It's almost not even a job as much as it is. I don't even know what the word is opportunity. But violet blue is doing a thing

Jessamyn: trying to find professional women between 30 and 45 who have experienced hiring discrimination. Maybe because of their age. She's writing an article this was a couple weeks ago. So I don't know if it's still good, but you should contact her but basically asking, Hey, were you like, looking for a job? and and you know, stuff kind of got weird. And maybe you think it's cuz you're a woman? Let her know. So

Cortex: good. This has come up. But like in context and smart. Right arrow? We should be clear that this violet blue is not that file uploaded. Or two different file blues on the internet. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah. I keep forgetting about the other violet blue. This is our violet blue. Not but boiling points. Violet blue, or. Yeah. Or formerly, that whole fucking thing. Right? God was that like, 10 years ago now? I think I mean,

Jessamyn: cuz I know exactly what you're talking about. But for the for the

Cortex: probably don't have to make but just for the sake of it, right? Me five

Unknown: zone violent?

Unknown: Yes,

Unknown: very nice.

Cortex: Yeah, there's a front end thing. Pyro 979 is looking for a front end developer and Plainsboro, New Jersey. So you know, if you're in the New Jersey area or want to be

Unknown: Oh, did I not put that in the link thing? You didn't

Unknown: but that's okay.

Unknown: This is that exciting podcast stuff we're talking about

Cortex: and, and yes, and agendas, looking for editors for an ongoing writing project. I think that's

Jessamyn: reading project is like helping people make their resumes pop, which, you know, we've got founders who that's, that's their jam. So if that's still a thing and check it out. Yes,

Cortex: that's jobs and jobs. See, let's talk about projects or projects. One of

Jessamyn: my favorite things just in general, on the internet, not I don't know, favorite thing I've really enjoyed over the last couple months is a K. O'Mara has got a new project. And he makes tiny skulls. And I see these a lot scooting through mall chop. Yeah, but now he's actually sort of promoting it actively, not only on projects, but then knock the water posted it to meta filter. He makes these little skulls, which are slightly meal like we've got

Jessamyn: and they're small and kind of and so not only is he sculpting these little skulls, but then he leaves them around where he lives which I think is the New Orleans and leaves a little clues about where they could be. And then other people go and find them. So check out the pictures that are adorable. And then yeah, you can see the you can see the flicker flicker group. Yeah, I don't know why I wasn't following him on Flickr. I kind of feel like maybe he's got a

Unknown: different different account than the one I knew.

Jessamyn: It's awesome. So

Cortex: everything to Flickr for the first time in a while for a couple meetups we had recently and

Jessamyn: I saw them. Yeah, so I'm gonna try and maybe do a little bit more of that. But I think since smug mug bought flicker flicker may be worthwhile, you know, engaging and interacting with I've go there more often and like things and upload things and whatever. So yeah, try it. Yeah,

Cortex: I think I think I'm at work on that because I haven't really had like a photo place online. I've got like, you know, stuff on Instagram stuff on Twitter. But they both feel a little bit in passing, you know,

Jessamyn: well, and I just have again, like this may be a theme for this podcast. But like Instagram bothers me like I enjoy my friends that are there and I love looking at people's pictures but the fact that there's some algos that's determining how I see the things and there's a lot of that just means that it would never be kind of my number one go to place

Jessamyn: even though I love seeing my friends stuff. But I it's very hard for me to keep up within the proper way. And ads. Lots of ads. Yep,

Cortex: I know it's frustrating that it is as with so much other sort of make a corporate social media at this point, like just a you are going to get what you get surface rather than you get what you want. And the long term thing on that is, I don't know if people are just going to, like, get super accustomed to that because there hasn't really been a good choice or if there's going to be a proper backlash. Or if someone's gonna manage to eat their lunch by saying, Oh, hey, you want something that works? Here you go. It's, it's, it's weird trying to sort of predict how a great big pile of money is going to do against someone doing a better job

Jessamyn: well, and I always just think when I think about Instagram, it's like, it's just not for me, you know, like, it's not designed for people like me, in a general sense, like, I'm not their target demo, which means that a lot of the decisions they make seem mysterious or strange, partly because I'm just not even the kind of person they're looking for, you know, whereas with Flickr, I always felt at least a little bit people like me, were at sort of who they were trying to

Jessamyn: get with. And it was funny, actually, um, Flickr, I had a, you know how flicker has like Flickr explore where it's like, here's, you know, a whole bunch of AlphaGo chosen pictures every day. Yeah, and then they direct you to it. So if you want to know kind of what's what flickers about,

Jessamyn: you can see those pictures, and usually it's a thing for fancy people. But I had like this ridiculous picture that I took over dinner with Jim where we were playing hang man, and

Jessamyn: the clue was onboard, which again, my life lately, but for whatever reason, it went to flicker Explorer. And then, like, 3000 people saw it, which just made me laugh. And it was like, Oh, right. You know, Flickr is actually kind of for people like me, there's a spider on me. Oh, no, I mean, Oh, yes. I don't. I don't know how you feel about the spider situation. I said the word but I preferred like something feels like it's creeping on me. Which is good news. And bad news. If I'm having some sort of neurological problems. So

Cortex: yeah, let's hope for spider, shall we? Let's assume spider you live in for like, are you in Vermont right now, though? Or? No, no,

Unknown: I'm down in Massachusetts, down and West for not necessarily in

Cortex: a spider replace. No, I

Jessamyn: totally AM. This house is like spider Central. I guess there's just there's room for more spiders there. There's room for more spiders. And there's lots and lots of corners that I just don't pay any.

Jessamyn: And I don't care like spiders or find the books. But every now and again. They climb on your ear.

Unknown: And they're like, let's look great for some boundaries.

Unknown: Hey,

Jessamyn: maybe they're correct. I don't know what's going on. Okay,

Cortex: it's a sensory extravaganza. I liked this EP from Nico Spark, actually mentioned one of the songs off this last last last episode featured on it. But here's the whole EP four songs and they are good. And just go listen to them.

Jessamyn: Yeah, I am. I send me a spark. And I saw this which I liked. And I also saw Nika spark

Jessamyn: in another projects thing. And, you know, I always appreciate when people are not only posted their own projects, but they're in other people's projects. And so lucky nerd, I had a husband who committed suicide several years ago. And she talked about it on the site. So I was sort of familiar with the situation. And, you know, she's in a pretty good place now, and finally just decided she was going to, like, write the guy a letter. And, you know, they had a very sort of tumultuous relationship in a lot of ways. And so, you know, this,

Jessamyn: this letter that she wrote, which was just kind of a one off on her blog is just a really kind of thoughtful, sentimental think thing. And it turns out that she's on a mailing list with Nika Spark. And so that was just kind of a neat little Kismet thing that I saw somewhere else projects.

Cortex: There's also extreme heat pumps forever, which I have been delighted to poke at. have not had a chance to like play through it. But this is from Breck who has been doing a lot of cool game stuff. And

Unknown: I wasn't sure what this is, it's

Unknown: kind of

Cortex: I mean, visual novels, the right word, and that's what the Breck uses. But basically, it's a storytelling game, where you go and have conversations and also get in

Cortex: me bag mech battles. It's, it's,

Cortex: it's hard to explain. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's a great little thing, it's a very, it's a very its own aesthetic sort of little thing, but

Jessamyn: a disasters was where I got confused. And, like in a this is queer literature sort of sense.

Cortex: Just a bunch of people going around the having the kind of time they're having living their life in this meat punk universe. And, you know, having conversations and being a mess, and also getting in mech fights. I don't know if there's a way I can, like,

Cortex: convey this success. I'm just delighted by it. It's,

Cortex: it's fun. Interesting data. Great leg. Yeah, no, the arts fantastic writings. Fun, it's good, it's a weird thing, go play. It basically is my my whole take on it. Cool. But it's kind of like a download things. So it's, it's, you know, a little bit investment. But I also like the opposite of forecasting. from low note, this is

Unknown: bad casting,

Unknown: casting, maybe maybe casting

Cortex: now it's, it's, it's a piece of music, they require a bunch of stuff. And then it's modified in real time. Like, it's basically a looping piece of music. But then the pieces are modified in real time, according to weather data in Austin. So I love into it, it changes the sound of pieces as it goes along. So if you check in at different times of the day, different times of year, it'll be the same piece underneath. But it'll sound different. And that's super rad thing to do.

Jessamyn: Well, and Moonmilk points out that it is reminiscent of young marble giants, who is maybe one of my favorite friends. So that's a very

Unknown: thumbs up sappy

Unknown: thing, from my perspective,

Cortex: what else there's, there's been some nice stuff on the projects. And, you know, I, I made a big meta talk post, and I'll take that out. But basically saying, hey, projects is good. And let's be clear that it's okay to post stuff on projects that aren't necessarily huge projects, because that's been kind of an ongoing thing,

Cortex: a point of confusion for some people where people like, Oh, well, I made this thing or I'm working on this thing. But the text of the page kind of says, This is for like, a big completed project. And this is a work in progress. Or it's not that when

Unknown: you were clarifying, and basically saying, Yeah, basically

Cortex: saying, Hey, you know, what projects are nice. I like seeing what people are working on. And it doesn't need to be a huge thing. It doesn't need to be a big finish thing you can could have a work in progress, you could be trying to figure out where to go with something you could have, you know, a good essay that you wrote, that is basically just a blog post, but it's a good one, you know, and, you know, you shouldn't like post just like, here's the sandwich I ate every month

Unknown: as I don't know. Unless, unless the sandwich project.

Cortex: Yeah, I mean, if you if you put put some guts into it, that's actually okay. You know,

Cortex: but, and that's basically what it's trying to get is like, Hey, you know, I want to see people saying, Hey, here's the thing I made, or here's the thing I'm making. And you know, what that thing is and what shape it's in. And what it consists of, can be pretty variable. You know, it doesn't need to just be like, here is my brand.

Unknown: I wrote a book.

Cortex: Yeah, I wrote a book is a pretty reasonable project to share. You know, like, ideally, there's something to look, but

Jessamyn: it could be, I wrote a chapter or it could be, I made a little game.

Cortex: Yeah, yeah. Or, hey, this thing is half finished and broken, and I want some feedback, you know, these these things would be okay, so trying to sort of push on a little bit and felt it was nice. It felt like a bunch of people are like, Oh, well, I guess I can't. Some projects are a good talk.

Jessamyn: Remember when it was a mailing list by Kindle?

Unknown: Yep. I love it. Simply do I love it? Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. To

Jessamyn: a um, I also like this Brexit meal kits. thing that Adrian on good, I didn't see this. So I'm a big fan of basically everything Adrian Han does. Yep. It's, it's,

Cortex: it's clever the way you would expect it to be. He did a good job.

Unknown: So yes.

Jessamyn: Oh, I love it. I'm just looking at it. That is a meat pie. Whoo hoo, Weetabix on the go.

Unknown: French check. All right. Good.

Cortex: There's a bunch more stuff. Go look at projects. People are posting cool things that they made. And plus you're cool thing to project. Also do that. do both of those things. Go look and go. Do

Jessamyn: you know, did you post your thing? I saw that you were at a craft fair. Oh, I was at a craft. I

Cortex: didn't like post a thing thing. I mean, I mean, it asked me about it. I guess I

Unknown: healed myself. I know

Unknown: know what I've been busy.

Cortex: I admit that. To some extent. The last few days. I've been busy with video games, because I've really not been playing video games for a while and had a little bit of window to begin on it. But also just like the craft fair thing. It's funny. So like, I've been doing those geometric tiles. And the craft fair was fun, and interesting, and educational, and tiring, and all sorts of things. And it was like, there's just

Jessamyn: one of those supposedly fun things you'll never do. Again, basically, supposedly, something

Cortex: I may will do. Again, I'll do it slightly better. Next time. I'll know a little bit more about like, what to expect in etc. But all in all, it was fine. And it was low cost, I was just mostly the effort of going and doing they're doing it that was like the investment as nice time me and Secretary both hung around and, and sold a few kits.

Cortex: But But my geometric tile kits, there's also like, a certain amount of turnaround time and getting them made. And so like, I keep wanting to know, like, push the store again, until like, I actually have time to work on that. And August, I'm gone for like the second half of August, I'm gonna be on the other side of the country. And so I guess

Unknown: that's my side of the country. I know

Cortex: I'm going to we're going to mannequin like we do every summer. Now, it turns out, it's the whole thing family. So but like, you know, I won't be anywhere near my laser cutter. So like, I kind of want to like,

Jessamyn: and you can't just like set it and forget it. Right? Yeah. Yeah,

Cortex: it doesn't work that way. Definitely be there for it. So like, like, there's all sorts of stuff that I could do that be good for, like, sort of upping the visibility that which I kind of don't want to do because I don't want to be like, hey, go look at my thing. And also, I'm shutting the store down for a month because I can't do anything I got. You know, maybe I'll get I'll get there in September. But I will follow up in my asked me because I did ask for advice on bending and got a bunch of really good answers and get there. We'll get there. The monks. Oh, and the mugs the monks. Yes. They sold

Unknown: out your print more of them. Yes. Yep.

Unknown: I'm gonna sneeze here

Unknown: cuz I'm tight.

Unknown: It freaked me out. Why?

Unknown: There we go. That's the stuff.

Cortex: Yeah. Where's that? Where's that post about the mugs most already there. All right. That's good. This workflow. It's it's the sneezing. Yeah. We made some mugs.

Cortex: So nice, big blue mugs. And yeah, the factory is out of those mugs. Because we sold out the initial order and they put in a reorder. And then I guess the factors like Oh, actually, you know, we don't have a round right now. So hold on.

Cortex: So that's a little bit silly. But hey, merge. It's a it's an exciting adventure. And

Jessamyn: I always think when I see the big blue mug out here, between sort of Massachusetts and Rhode Island, where I am for the summer, there's this giant insect on the side of the road. And it's basically the Big Blue bug. I don't know if you know, this big blue. I know this big giant, and it's right on the side of the highway. And so you drive by and you totally see it. And you know, they're they're big blue bug on Twitter. And they got a website and they've got a walk around. bug. That's hilarious. nibbles would away is the name of the character. So every time you say big, blue mug, it makes me think of big boobs. And I smile. So

Unknown: that is another side side benefit.

Unknown: That's excellent. Excellent.

Cortex: I'm gonna mention one more project, I guess. Because this way, I'm not technically mentioning my posts. Because my post is just a post of this project. I think I've made that post. Now what happened? I'm now I'm trying to remember anyway, like, I know, it's, it's the coffee is working. But it's may not be entirely working for me.

Cortex: Ring level moon milk did something awesome. They made a 44 yard long 40 meter long

Cortex: tapestry of the content have a somewhat degraded copy of the audio of the Voyager golden.

Jessamyn: And I mean, I'm a huge fan of everything moon milk does, generally speaking, but my word. Yeah,

Cortex: it's really wow. Now I have questions though. There's a post about it. So some of them may be answered.

Unknown: But yeah,

Cortex: it's pretty neat. It's pretty darn neat. And yes.

Unknown: Wow.

Jessamyn: Yeah. Sorry. I'm reading this thread. I have a question.

Cortex: Yeah, I mean, it's cool. Because like, they they grabbed like, a, like, second, third generation, who knows copy of the audio, like, you know, there's the actual Yeah, and then there's the record of the audio. And then there's a recording of the audio, that one on the record, and then there's someone makes a copy. And so it makes the copy and they grabbed something random off YouTube, basically. So who knows, it's like, you know, cassette generations? Like it's not quite right. So the tapestry not only encodes the audio, but also encodes for, like, the damage to the signal by the time it got to the version they had, which I think I liked it that much more interesting, especially if you think, you know, if we're talking about putting something out there into outer space. And who knows, when someone find it, some degradation of the signal is entirely possible. What is the record gets a little bit warped? What if something if it crashes into something,

Unknown: so yeah,

Jessamyn: well, and this brings me to, you know, something, God Almighty, I should probably put this in a project since you said all sorts of crazy shit should be in projects nowadays. But, uh, I something has happened. Um, this is just my tweet stream about going to see America's longest painting,

Cortex: I did not see this,

Jessamyn: you must have seen part of this. I feel like I interacted with you on part of this. At any rate, America's longest painting is in New Bedford now. And it is a quarter of a mile long. And it originally was supposed to be a scrolling, like, you sat there. And it scrolled by you in the 18, I don't know, 15. And then you would kind of learn what a whaling voyage was like.

Jessamyn: And then this thing has just been in a basement of the whaling Museum in New Bedford for ever, and they got a ton of money to restore it. And now it's up in a mill building, basically, in South New Bedford. And you can look at this quarter mile painting walking up and down the aisles. And then there's a whole bunch of context. But I've turned into like my thing this month, where, like, I've looked at the painting, and I've read books about the painting. Yesterday, I went to the library to get a VHS tape of the last time that painting was shown in public in 1964 to like, go watch that which was its own, like, funny little headache, where I got to play it on a video tape machine in a library, because that's the only way I could watch it, you know. And so at any rate, I really probably should find some way write this all up and post it to projects because it was fascinating. And it's just this public art thing that like, for whatever reason, because it's on the ass end of New Bedford, and it's summertime, and everybody's doing something else you can like, have a bunch of time just yourself with this painting. Yeah, that's huge. Beautiful space. And yeah, it's really cool. And moon milks thing made me think of it because they're not dissimilar in certain ways. Yes.

Jessamyn: Meta filter. I should. Oh, yeah, it does. I made a post on meta filter about it. I knew there was a metaphor to tie let's talk

Unknown: about let's talk about men filter

Jessamyn: for Christ's sake. Alright, so yes, I made a post on meta filter as part of when I was first getting jazzed about this before I had even seen it. Um, and then that kind of encouraged me to

Unknown: do more,

Cortex: right. Ya know, you should follow that up my my time with the longest painting. Yep.

Unknown: North America's longest painting.

Cortex: Well, let's talk about what else is on the filter besides posted inspired to go to museums. All right. Let me or other posted inspired to go to museums. We can talk about those too. Well, I

Jessamyn: mean, why not? Right? Or how about one that just inspires you to go to YouTube and look at tiny goats interacting with sold lots of different kinds of animals. And this is Chris you logic? Yeah. Christian Blahnik

Jessamyn: a long time me fight. Not very frequent poster. And it's just basically I mean zoos do zoos who have a good social media game lately are just incredible. And this was this zoo. It's got a tiny goat, and kind of a normal size goat. And then they introduce these goats to other animals. And I think I had originally seen it somewhere on the internet, like tiny goat meets porcupine. And then I was like, I gotta come to meditate. Oh, it's already there. And it's just, you know, seeing how a goat deals with

Jessamyn: meeting other animals. But I mean, this porcupine is really incredible also. And if you need to spend a couple minutes just looking at something that is not America circling the drain. I recommend this.

Cortex: This is Oh man. Yeah, no, I'm

Jessamyn: also tiny goat in Oregon.

Unknown: Yeah, yeah, this is. This is my this is like this.

Cortex: Is the chupacabra. Actually a cop a bar. Is that. What's going on with this one? What is the chupacabra? Well, traditionally,

Jessamyn: just don't. Don't you explain to you because I was in a group called the chupacabra. Police that went to Burning Man pendant I were around my neck.

Cortex: I will absolutely refrain from explaining to you but I have to say that was a very misleading way to not ask about a literally what is the

Jessamyn: what is it? I was just gonna. What is it in the context of this video? You knew about the post? I feel? I feel I feel waylaid.

Jessamyn: That is the most man. Spontaneous. Ah. I did. I

Unknown: apologize. For the confusion.

Jessamyn: I apologize. For my part in your confusion.

Unknown: Yes. stuff on Oh my god.

Cortex: I think it's a cup of Barbara. That would explain why they would

Unknown: I've never seen one run like that. But I guess I mean,

Cortex: it looks skinny compared to what I've seen of cup bars. Maybe it's a juvenile Kappa bar or something. Or maybe it's completely something else. I'm not turn on the audio this thing right now. So it'll just be a mystery. But anyway, those goats are adorable. And also I see I see a lot of content in a sort of meta filter adjacent way because fraying lives in Oregon now, right? Yes, a farm with some adorable goats on it. And,

Jessamyn: and so and I follow them on Instagram. And they're very good on social media, generally speaking, well, he's on Twitter. And she's a on Instagram. And maybe he's on Instagram, too. Yeah, yeah. Milk milk farm. Is that what it is,

Unknown: is something like that? Yeah. So yeah,

Jessamyn: while we're talking about animals we can identify even though I'm sure you have other stuff to talk about. I enjoyed this post by fearful symmetry about problematical unclassified fossils because they can't tell what they are.

Unknown: That's fantastic.

Jessamyn: Yeah, basically, there's a article in The Guardian. And yeah, it's sort of an article in The Guardian about like, drawers full of nonsense. And of course, church or one of me fights, meta filters, favorites, and someone we should get on the podcast basically talks about Oh, yeah, when I was at the National Museum of Kenya, like they had a whole drawer of, I guess hyraxes teeth

Unknown: Okay,

Unknown: little mice. Oh, okay. I guess are

Jessamyn: like yeah, weird little mammals and she's into them. The museum wasn't that into them. So she got to like, look through a drawer of teeth because they were like whatever teeth they're not, you know, gorillas or etc. So I just enjoyed it short post enjoyed it. Yeah,

Cortex: sort of digging through a big pile of recent activity that has a lot of like stuff where I had to do work

Unknown: Ah,

Cortex: but here's one that I enjoyed this is

Unknown: from fish pit is

Cortex: about a video series called The Dragons tomb and it's one of those kits to

Unknown: say the Dr. Ray to N word

Unknown: Yeah, Dragon Yes. Yeah.

Unknown: forgot all about dragon.

Cortex: Yes. Now this is this is something I enjoyed very much mostly for its actual content and a little bit for the weird facade of the presentation of its 10th because it's a guy doing a series of how to play short video tutorials on various board games. Oh God, I love it. But he's completely full of shit intentionally show so like it's just like it's a very straight faced satire where he explains games and like three or four minutes completely wrong like he's he's seriously seriously clearly spent a bunch of time for each of these sitting down and get a break Yeah, yeah. So it's just inventing a whole new game usually a very badly broken one mistaking intentionally various components

Jessamyn: games you've heard about so it's like yeah, yeah, against humanity. And if you know anything about it, like everyone I met a filter does this will be hilarious to you? Because you're like no, all right.

Cortex: Yep. And every every video he sums up with all in all this game is a blast, plague and feel. So it's not getting to that first one to get two or three years or something up here, right. Anyway, I thought it was a lot of fun.

Cortex: I don't delight in people being confused in a disappointed sort of way. Exactly. But there is

Unknown: a story of my life yeah, there's

Cortex: something kind of enjoyable about watching people process stuff so I was like, kind of enjoy seeing the topology of that in a thread where there's this like straight faced satire thing going on and people are sort of like finding their way collectively to understand

Unknown: yeah

Cortex: and like it speaks to doing a good job with a straight facing when it's actually a point of confusion But

Cortex: yeah, I thought that was kind of funny and they're fun to watch it's yes it's hard to know how funny they are outside of the context of being into board gaming because it's pretty topic specific but it's all stick an Asterix got there for anybody who's like maybe

Unknown: not for everyone

Cortex: also, you know, as many filters birthday and there was a post about that

Unknown: you guys had a beat up, right? Yeah, yeah,

Cortex: we have a meet up over at my house last last weekend. That's that's about right. Yeah, it

Unknown: looks fun. I saw the pictures. There's a couple pictures. Yeah, we

Cortex: had like 20 people come out and hung out and chatted a bunch and yeah it's really great time it was nice

Jessamyn: metal filter birthday threat. And now I'm happy that I thought well, I'm already like scheme in about kind of, you know what, what next? What next summer's gonna be like,

Unknown: yeah, I want to make some plans. Some plan.

Cortex: Let's see, what else did I like? I like this, this blog that the amount of twists and turns posted about

Cortex: Oh, I should say for the medical tradition, a post thank you for fighting for posting that because I realized that Oh, it's the first day and last year I made it and I don't want to make it again. It should be like a thing. And so I just went on Twitter and said hey, I'm not saying

Cortex: someone should go and make him at a filter post about the meta filter birthday but I'm not not saying that and then just shout it so good job. Yay. So what is this this post from the management and turns is a site called we want plates and it's just keeping track of people serving food not in traditional oh god like someone who serves you your food on a skateboard

Cortex: miniature grill or in a cat food bowl etc you know it's like it's kind of like a classic blog and I

Cortex: I enjoy it for the content it's documenting more than like the notional complaining about the content

Cortex: itself. Just it's a great record of unconventional stuff. You know, whether you like it or not, it's it's nice to see it through rounded up as sort of stuff.

Jessamyn: mushy peas in a latte glass fiddly little starters on skulls Oh my god, this is awesome. This is one of those Yeah, I can totally see why you love it. It's one of those classic you know one dumb

Jessamyn: combination of things and then everybody gets to talk about the bad thing time they ate a thing it was not

Unknown: that was done on a plate my favorite

Cortex: post that I have no idea what the content is because I haven't engaged with any of it but it's bookmarked is the bank Simpsons remixes posts from milk toast. I have no idea what's in here. But I'll get there at some point and I am sure I will enjoy it. And there will probably be at least one steamed ham so there you go. You can

Unknown: use

Unknown: it to me and I did not remember. Yeah, I

Unknown: won't go into it again. It's all right. That's great.

Unknown: Well, I'll wait till it's on me. It's on me.

Cortex: I mean, I'm not trying I'm not trying to deny you that information. I just nothing to add about it today. So

Jessamyn: I believe I took it in the spirit in which it was intended fully

Unknown: good good.

Jessamyn: Speaking of things I found elsewhere on the internet and then came to better filter only to find that they were already a meta filter post here is a mandolin conspiracy who I believe is really simpatico with me in terms of like, we seem to like almost exactly the same things and this was about

Jessamyn: Sridhar chill of Poon a India got his nails cut for the first time in six years and if you were a kid that read the Guinness Book of World Records as I was you've seen pictures of this dude and his misshapen hand and his long grotty nails and he finally got them all cut off at the age of 82 and sold them to Ripley's Believe it or not. And there are pictures they got cut off with a Dremel

Cortex: yeah man and is that is definitely an end of an era that's that's pretty crazy and it's not crazy it's

Unknown: probably a pretty good life decision it's the

Jessamyn: opposite of that yeah and you know I had made a post on it and it got deleted as a double which was fair because I'd actually done like a three or four link post that used completely three or four different links then this one which is completely you know fair

Unknown: rate badger links in the comment

Jessamyn: uh. No because I think they were in there once I found the post and I was like hey I made a post about this morning we managed not to use a the same links and so mandolin conspiracies like so. Hey, did I nail it on the first try

Cortex: they put a lot of care written into their post

Cortex: what Let's keep this going we got we can come up with some more Uh no, I

Unknown: can't

Unknown: meet cuticle.

Cortex: Another post that I liked was this one just for the phenomenon really backseat pilot. I posted a

Cortex: article someone wrote about how they discovered that they have been w as being wrong all these years? I think. So w ASD is just a description of those four key caps on the QWERTY keyboard in the top left, because that's where people usually do the forward backwards and straight left and straight flight right. looming keys and first person shooters and other video games that have like,

Jessamyn: I have learned a thing. And so they put that they're putting their their

Unknown: their fingers on the wrong Well, yeah,

Cortex: like the canonical the canonical version. And I don't know why it's canonical, it just is. This is what a lot of people have agreed is the way to go is to sort of rest of your ring finger on a and your middle finger and s and your index finger on D. And then you use your middle finger to use. Yeah, yeah, or WNS to use like forward backward and then you can scrape left and right with the other two fingers, and then use your pinky to hit things like shift and control and you can use your thumb for the spacebar. And this is just like, for whatever reason, this became like a known way to do it. But the person in the article was using their pinky on a and so everything was sort of shifted over a little bit. And, and the,

Cortex: the articles basically, they made some comment, and some was like, wait, what, because, like, what they're saying didn't make sense. If you were doing WSJ is like, no, great. Yeah, my fingers were like, dude, no. And like, everybody, they know, it's like, What are you talking about? And the article just sort of documents that and there's not a ton of meat to it. But it is sort of like that realization that something that you assumed was just the way everybody does. It is not sitting and standing for the, you know, exactly, which became a running theme in that thread,

Unknown: which I haven't even looked at, hey,

Cortex: hey. But it led to a lot of discussion about how people use keyboard since we're like, why different things would work and what not. And I saw I enjoyed the metaphor discussion that came out of it. That seemed kind of inevitable. Yeah, it was interesting. It's interesting hearing people talk about, like, the process of acquiring even these habits in the first place. Because like, no one wrote a book saying, put your fingers here as well. It's just like, you know, people sort of learning from other people. And right, yeah,

Unknown: yeah. Wow. Yeah.

Unknown: I thought that was cool.

Jessamyn: I enjoyed this post. In fact, this may have been one of my favorite posts this month to another man of twists and turns post. It's basically to a one pager called the div that looks different in every browser.

Unknown: Yes,

Jessamyn: basically, it's some cascading style sheet and some HTML that if you look at it in other browsers, it just looks different. And it's a little tricky, because he's actually linking to something on code, which is showing you the code and then you have to

Jessamyn: you have to go to Martin's Twitter thread to understand I think what he's talking about, like, there's then he has a picture that shows you how competitive not just like different, like it's got a slightly bigger padding lately. bigger margin, it's completely different.

Cortex: You would you would you would never guess that these were the same bits of code being displayed. It's not like, oh, but my borders off by two pixels. It's like, No, these are like, five fundamentally different geometric forms. Yeah. Which I really just like aesthetically, too. So I was super into it. Because, like, I feel like you could have done this demonstration with a little bit less geometric panache. But yeah,

Jessamyn: yeah. And so the thread is a combination of people being like, ah, web standards and other people. Like, I don't get it. You link to some HTML, and then other people talking about CSS. And it's actually I like it because it's a super nerdy thing. And also, I learned some things. Yeah,

Cortex: I really dug this post from Trimble and they made a post about some of these long form deep dive on making the Animal Crossing. Nintendo Entertainment System item work as a general Nintendo emulator. Which it turns out it is. And it's it's a long, wonky article. I'd say go Pokemon.

Unknown: I'm already

Cortex: so there's this game Animal Crossing, right? That I know. And you can get like, Nintendo games to put in your house. Like you can find like a like a nest with a donkey kong in the house. In your you put it Yeah, you find it somewhere you put in your house me sit down. And you can play Donkey Kong or Super Mario Brothers or whatever.

Cortex: But someone did some poking around and figure it out. There's also an NES item that like just it says, If you try to use this as I don't have any software for it. And what they figured out is that it's actually just a fully self contained NES emulator that they used plus wrongs for each of the individual things you could do so like,

Jessamyn: you own all the games, right? Like we've been climate eyes to, like, Whoa,

Cortex: but but what it comes down to is they didn't like make a donkey kong game emulator for for Animal Crossing. They just used an actual NES emulator and like plug a donkey kong ROM into it for the Donkey Kong item. So this is like the long form process of figuring out how to use this to do arbitrary nessa emulation in and like you might say, Why? And the answer is why not but it's super detailed

Unknown: digging in on that I thought it was pretty cool. So

Unknown: if you want to talk about asked me to filter

Unknown: finished talking about medical,

Cortex: I'm sorry. I should ask, Hey, do you have some more metaphor?

Jessamyn: Ah, just a couple little ones. So Jim made a post about this online. coracle game, you know, one of those, like 27 favorites, six comments. And I've been learning when people talk on Twitter about their ratio. You know, people like lots of replies, but not a lot of favorites or whatever. So, I, I think there's got to be some kind of like, meta filter thing, or, like, you know, lots of phase but few comments. coracle is this kind of pattern matching game. It's a little bit like set, it's a really fun

Jessamyn: board game to play with multiple people. But it's also when you can play pretty good with a computer. And Jim found one that was online. And

Unknown: I enjoyed that

Jessamyn: tedious made a post about the new exhibit at Monticello, about

Jessamyn: interpreting the experiences of the enslaved which I mean as people may know Thomas Jefferson has a lot of offspring that were a product of unions between him and people he had enslaved and that's always been a part of his legacy that's been complicated because you know, he's got this kind of like we're he's the founding father of America but he's also got this sort of not as cool super shitty ass but how do you balance that it's super tricky and

Jessamyn: basically they've got a new little thing on the cello the talks about it Monticello, mana cello, I don't, I don't know. And I appreciated it, you know, complex topics dealt with well. And lastly, just kind of a one off by end of attention, what your choice of crisp says about you. And it just sort of talks about like, you know who you are based on what kind of potato chips you like, in five minutes. click bait, but I don't care. I liked it. Nice. Yes.

Cortex: A mana cello. I want a cello is an example of a specific phenomena of things that happened to me as a kid because of my family. linguistic slash family dynamic thing, like Monicelli itself does not really factor into this. But when I discovered the existence of mana cello I was unfamiliar with the name I thought was kind of funny. And as young it is only a nickel. Oh, I know. But like, I didn't learn about currency as a kid. Particularly like not the content of the backs of coins. There are so many

Jessamyn: asked, meta filters, right about not knowing anything about money this month. Yeah,

Cortex: yeah. But I'm sorry. Going Well, anyway, I remember like discovering the existence of mana cello, hearing the name of the first time and making some joke about like, Oh, it's like a mountain of jello. And the sort of the way my family worked is like saying something weird and funny and wrong, would just haunt you for the rest of your life.

Unknown: It's your brand now. Yeah. So.

Cortex: So Josh, are you saying to mountain of jello, like would come up anytime something involve mountains, or jello or Thomas Jefferson, or plantations or whatnot, for the rest of my life. It's like the time I said, Salomon, when we were driving past salmon Street, we've all

Unknown: done it. And

Cortex: yeah, you know, it's, it's, it's a complicated thing. And like, trauma is too strong of a word. But for those kind of a dumb thing about my family.

Jessamyn: I know you and I know, you mean, I have some friends like that. Like, like, we went to college together. And still, every now and again, there'll be like, oh, remember the time that dog threw up, and you just picked it up with paper towels, and then finished making dinner. And I'm like, Dude, seriously, like, please.

Jessamyn: I mean, that was maybe something I did when I was 18 or 19. And like, that's the thing they think about. And it's like, it's clearly like sitting with them in a weird way. And so then they have to keep bringing it up with me.

Unknown: Yeah,

Cortex: the time when I was four, and I ate a piece of cat food. kibble on a dare has mostly fallen off the radar at this point.

Cortex: Now back. Yeah, I know, right? That's the, it's just a little cracker man. Plus, I was four. And it was a dare. Like, what do you do?

Cortex: I blame my sisters for a lot of this

Jessamyn: good friends with my sister now. But we had kind of a kid relationship that was a lot more contentious. And so it is really funny as grown ups every now and again. And we get along and we're really good friends. But every now and again, will trip over one of those things. Oh, that time you take my eyes shut, and maybe walk around the house as if I was blind and be like, Oh, God. Yeah, that was terrible. But like, You know what? I mean, like, if she thinks about it.

Unknown: Yeah. And

Jessamyn: then I'm sure I have stuff like that with her to I just I don't remember it offhand. But yeah, sisters? All right. Totally.

Unknown: Do you want to talk about as

Unknown: I sure do.

Unknown: Talk about us medical? Well,

Jessamyn: here is the mystery that I am curious about, which is also k O'Meara thing, I think a friend on Twitter bought an old card game, there's no identifying markers.

Jessamyn: Anyone have any idea? But it looks like they might be tobacco cards and not a game card. I don't know if I haven't gone back to look at Twitter to see if anybody

Jessamyn: know if anybody said anything about it. So like, Is it a game? Is it a tobacco card? The they have these little kind of like, you know, who is Barnum stat lady, you know, I am or whatever, they've got these little lines on them. But like, the basic question is, what the hell are these things? Yeah, and I don't think anybody knows. So if you dear listener, thank you have an idea.

Unknown: threats to open? Yeah, super

Cortex: interesting. Yeah, I mean, maybe it's just like someone's old school Twitter. Like, they're just like, talking random shit about themselves in an odd way. And like, it's like, people do Twitter threads were like, one of 33 to 33. And that's what the numbers are there. Like, it's just a big old to collect

Unknown: the whole set. Yeah,

Unknown: no, that's great. That's super neat. Yeah,

Jessamyn: I also enjoyed this one, because it's relevant to my interest. How can I shut the hell up? It's basically someone who's a little bit it's anonymous question. Someone who's a little bit socially anxious, maybe a little loud. And then every now and again, you know, kind of starts going on and on about a topic again, Who among us is not this person A lot of times, but they're a little down on themselves about it and would like to really not be that way anymore and get a lot of good advice about how to deal with that particular problem, which I thought was thoughtful and helpful. There's one that I particularly liked by

Jessamyn: basically called the Tsu technique. share time with everybody take three seconds to think find empathy for others. Understanding isn't necessary to help be more part of a conversation and not the dominant person in the conversation. Yeah. Which was the thing I really took away from that thread. Yeah,

Unknown: seemed helpful construct I

Cortex: like I like this little asked and answered one, just from yesterday. I think I'm trying to post that in the wrong field. There we go. I'm good at stuff.

Cortex: Yes, this question from metadata saying, what the heck American flag is this in this video?

Jessamyn: Oh, I love that. I just saw that the other day to you feel free to continue to explore. It's

Cortex: just like, it's an odd looking flag that has like the maybe 40 something stars, and they're arranged in sort of a circle and meditators like oh, what's the deal with this? I didn't find it on the, you know, history of the flag page on on Wikipedia, right. And

Jessamyn: I learned through this, that basically, there was a period of time in American history when the flag was a lot of different ways.

Cortex: Yeah, like, sort of doing whatever they're gonna do with it. Yeah, until What 1912? Someone said in the

Cortex: I'm not sure. But sometime in the 20th century, the government's like, Oh, hey, actually, you know, this is what the flag looks like, make it look like this, are you gonna make a look

Unknown: right,

Unknown: there was another

Jessamyn: thread that I thought was really interesting, another anonymous thread, basically, somebody who lost their left their faith tradition, and is trying to kind of figure out how to manage the weird feeling that you have between growing up in a faith tradition and not being in it anymore. And the topic meta filter doesn't always deal with, well, when it comes up kind of on the blue, but there's enough people who have distance between they're sort of born in faith tradition, that there was a lot of really good advice that was really sort of helpful and empathetic. So I enjoyed reading along with it. Again, as someone who kind of came up with no faith tradition. I'm always fascinated by how people explain sort of what that has or had meant to them. And this was a good thing to read along it. Yeah.

Cortex: Oh, you know, I mentioned while we talked about the the vending thing, or did that art fair I mentioned is the question and I basically said, Hey, this is this is what I got. I'm doing this for the first time, tell me what else I should do. And I got a bunch of good answers. And people point out a couple previous asked medical records that also had good answers, and basically provided a couple of fairly thorough checklist of things to bring in things to plan for, and it was actually all really helpful.

Cortex: So thanks, everybody for that. Yes. Meta folder for doing the thing that supposed to do. Ah, so good. I don't post questions enough these days. I'm trying to get more about like being like, Oh, hey, you know, I have a question. I'm just gonna poke, you

Unknown: get to a week. But yeah, I know, right. In fact, you get as many as you want. Technically, I tried it.

Cortex: I tried. Avoid violating the the timing stuff. Even though as an admin, I'm able to. And just like things like in the spirit of the thing channel, I'll make some extra meta talks, obviously. But other than that, you know,

Unknown: not mad with power. Good man.

Jessamyn: Well, I liked just in terms of a list generating sort of adorable thread, this was a by hot toddy. And just expanding my repertoire of ways to physically Express affection. So like, you know, little ways with your partner or someone you care about, that you show them that aren't just like, hug, kiss you hug, kiss, kiss, kiss. And it's just like, lots of different ways people do this within their relationship. And it's just fun to read. As somebody who's in a relationship enjoys sort of weird dumb things that I do with my partner that kind of feel fairly specifically stupid to us. It's fun reading about other people, specifically, stupid

Jessamyn: ways of interacting with each other. You know, like, a lot of people are more likely to talk about this, like with their cats. But you don't always hear people talking about it with their partner. So I enjoyed it. Yeah, yeah, I have a confession. Do I read this question wrong? And I gave advice without reading the question thoroughly. So my advice was bad. And I just apologize. General general. It wasn't bad. Exactly. But basically, archipelago is looking

Unknown: good. Right now. I'm believing

Jessamyn: women centered women authored graphic novels. And then below the fold looking for sci fi, fantasy fairy tale ask. And I was like, women centered graphic novels. I know a ton of them and just kind of steam rolled right over, which is too bad because it was

Unknown: great. But yeah, it's definitely not cyphy.

Jessamyn: It sure is not. And then I didn't want to, like get in the thread and be like, I didn't read, right, like, cuz it it's not about me. You know, I just figured it's better to have my comment, be there and be wrong than it is to get back in there and talk about myself some more, but I did feel bad. So I feel like I would just tell the podcast

Unknown: really know that that's good poetry.

Jessamyn: And if you like, women centered, women authored graphic novels in a sci fi fantasy or fairy tale direction. This thread is your damn

Unknown: good in there. Yeah,

Cortex: there's this question for moon milk. But I like it.

Unknown: I know it's all about

Cortex: well, I've always been a username I've enjoyed, like reading and saying, I like this question on sort of two levels. One of them is that it's actually kind of useful to get a little bit of more

Cortex: thoughts from people who actually can put this stuff into Word and give examples because like, I, I know what new milks asking about that sort of wondered about it and like, like, chill hop ish stuff is about as close as my vocabulary for it is too and it's writing stuff because like this, this definitely falls in the realm of stuff that's not super distracting to listen to, if I'm doing something else. And I appreciate that because like I have a hard time not like listening to lyrics when there's lyrics and music so like, there's a lot of stuff that I can't really listen to while doing some traffic words. So this sort of thing is, you know, works for me, but I also like blue t shirts answer which is like simultaneously a joke and also not so totally accurate. Yeah, lo fi hip hop beats to chill and study to is like if you go to like, you know, Spotify there's a million permutation

Unknown: re incidentally

Cortex: the fucking alex jones bullshit. Yes, yeah.

Cortex: But yes, basically take the words in that first comment from Blue t shirt, rearrange them at random type

Cortex: Spotify or YouTube or whatever playlist and it'll get you this stuff. It's just kind of a funny, weird branding genre thing

Cortex: maybe kind of expresses with the fact that there's not a super tight genre name for this sort of thing. So it's like

Jessamyn: right well I mean, because there doesn't necessarily have to be rate unless you're trying to like market it or sell it it can just kind of be what it is and people buy it from the people who make it kind of yeah

Unknown: yeah, that's cool.

Jessamyn: I had to sort of local to me things that I thought were interesting one of which is I found a glass bottle in a wooden box in a basement in the northeast and there's no writing on it What the hell

Unknown: the glass bottle knows what it did

Jessamyn: and it turns out you know if this is by evil mom lady and it turns out it's a flat bottom bottle that's completely full or half full of mirrors sciatic acid which is why it's in the box I'm by someone who I guess was a stone worker and so it's a thing you can use on your x or something and yeah

Unknown: what was it

Cortex: was the theory that was light sensitive an issue there I don't know anything about Radek acid so I don't

Unknown: I assume it's an acid because it says acid oh sure but like

Unknown: it's caustic so

Jessamyn: it's like super curious so like

Cortex: they're sort of keeping it there just to have

Jessamyn: yes so but you could only this was in the 50s or before so all your only option was a glass bottle but if you really want to make sure your glass bottle doesn't crack you put it in a wooden box but I thought it might be like colonial you know error or whatever and so I got to you know jump into the thread like goofy like by the way I made a metal filter posts on antique bottles also I have one of these bottles

Cortex: that's pretty great yeah yeah and then the other I always feel that way when like some specific random bit of pop culture comes up from like 10 years ago like oh you know I once wrote a song about that specific

Jessamyn: here's all my research my wheelhouse and then I'm just trying to find the other one

Cortex: Do you have a thing you want to talk about well i i have nothing in the chamber

Cortex: you make built podcast thank you for your patience podcast host will be with us shortly do do do do do do do do We value your listener to do to stay online and the podcast will return shortly distracting you from finding what you're doing, because this could be very counterproductive.

Jessamyn: No, no, I think it's adorable. Okay, here it is. Um, so another one that was in my wheelhouse. in sort of a weird way was basically this asked medical thread anonymously posted

Unknown: this person,

Jessamyn: I don't know why I think woman now but a person who basically is Jewish lives in my that uses used to work somewhere where co workers were openly anti semitic. Somebody made like a weird comment and about them being Jewish when they're not kind of out as Jewish at work. And they were like, Oh my god, like, Is this just Massachusetts? Like, is this like this? Is this normal? How do you deal with this? And so basically, it's like all my Jews from Massachusetts and the thread talking about like, you know, yes, or no, or maybe or this is how I deal with it. Or this is how, because there's a whole bunch of places in Massachusetts where there are sort of like high concentrations of Jewish people. But there's also a lot of just rural places where people are like, I haven't seen a Jew before and you're like, come on, really. And so just talking about kind of how you how you deal with that and what's useful and etc, etc, etc. So I thought the thread was interesting. And it's also interesting because again, I don't know who's Jewish and Massachusetts but it's interesting to hear people self identify and be like

Unknown: no buddy can

Unknown: ping me

Unknown: when I bought

Unknown: be

Jessamyn: well we can scoot over to better talk Where is good the unexpected kindness or sorry Bella Donna good had a similar feel good thread. But Bella Donna had a Hey, g man died. Talk about how unexpected kindness and generosity have improved. Yeah, and I enjoyed it just because there's a lot of good stories.

Jessamyn: Yeah, about talking about the switch rings that that made them feel better. I'm saying was that the

Unknown: smack

Unknown: talk about your snacks, which I

Jessamyn: was happy about? Because the weekend chat was about pets. And I read along. But you know, I'm not a pet person. So. So

Jessamyn: yeah, but But boy, I can talk about some snacks

Cortex: and did and let's see, well, what we mentioned earlier, but before you talk, so hey, that mug. And there will be a new shirt along shortly to, I just need to get that gussied up, but we're gonna do a shirt with some rat art from Robocop is bleeding. That'll be coming out soon. too nice. I did

Cortex: a different podcast. I guy I talked to Mike. Mass, Nick on the

Jessamyn: record. That was good. But I actually didn't listen to it. How was it? Is it okay? That I didn't

Cortex: know why didn't you take an entire out of your life? You know, just to listen to me saying things that I say to you. And I already know

Cortex: shocking on there. It's me talking about sort of meta filter and moderation stuff. But it was fun. It was a nice conversation.

Cortex: We're trying out new ads and seeing how that's going so far. Not bad. So we'll see if those stick around if we change them up or what happens. But it's been well received. As far as you know, here's some ads go. So that's that's been nice. Nothing has gone horribly wrong.

Cortex: I mentioned earlier the projects through upbeat posts. And

Cortex: then I like that because I'm sort of repeating myself on that but a lot of talk

Jessamyn: didn't see this testing some new add stuff. So good. Good. Glad to read it. Where was I this week? I don't know what was going on.

Cortex: I mean, you you weren't like doing your fill in shifts or anything. So there's no like

Jessamyn: I read talk. But there was just like this gap of like five or six days where I clearly did not good

Cortex: most of what was there good stuff in meta talk people, nice chatty things.

Jessamyn: Anything coming up next week. I mean, you got the cortex Josh Milan or Josh cortex blowhards

Cortex: account accountability I mean, I will be I will have been in Maine for the second half the month. So like who knows what, like, I'll be working while I'm over there. But who knows? How will my attention will be. So no, I have no predictions I've no predicted for next month. I will. I'm going to try and remember to mention something on fanfare. So one thing I want to mention is there's a decent discussion thread on Sorry to bother you that I've only glance that because I'm really curious about it. And I haven't seen it yet. But I've heard good things. So I'm glad to see that there's several dozen comments of discussion on fanfare. And hey, I mentioned fanfare

Jessamyn: great. Yeah, I've been, you know, reading along with elementary on fanfare enough to figure out that I had missed an episode. Like I watch it via friends Plex. So the Plex just queues up whatever the next show is. Yeah. And then I've been watching them in order. And then people are like, oh, what about this crazy thing? And I'm like, I didn't see that. They were like, you missed the thing. And it's always interesting. I didn't track it down on hot internet.

Cortex: Yeah, reading fanfare stuff on a show that I've watched but haven't like gone all in on. Yeah, all the shit that people who are close watching are catching that. I'm like,

Jessamyn: well, that's one of my favorite things about fanfare is I'm super. I'm that person for some shows. And I'm not for other shows. And I appreciate always appreciate, you know, people who are that person for shows where I'm not that person. Yeah, like,

Cortex: I don't, I don't have watch pretty much anything. Like, I don't really have the patience to watch a show. I don't feel like watching. But you know, there are some there are sometimes, well, I will engage a show with a real close watch to try and puzzle out what's going on with like, the, you know, the underlying story. And sometimes I'll just sort of watch it to watch it. And like Star Trek discovery, I may have talked about this, like on a previous episode, but just like I, I've really enjoyed Star Trek discovery. Me and Me and Secretary both, you know, thought it was pretty great. And we're excited about Season Two coming along. But, you know, we watched the first several episodes and we just sort of like watched him like watching some Star Trek and it'd be quite became clear that there was some like, you know, clever foreshadowing and stuff coming along, you know, once it got a few episodes in there were like, Oh, I wonder something's going on with that. And so, we started looking at the fanfare stuff, and it turns out everybody on fanfare was like, oh, clearly, they're, they're blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Basically, write about all this stuff. And like reading these cues, since like, Episode One that like Episode Six, we're starting to notice maybe something's up and they've been everyone's like,

Jessamyn: Oh, yeah, ever since I saw that ring they were wearing

Cortex: Yeah, clearly the delay in the mirror was evidence that they were going into mirror universe and blah blah blah blah. Okay. Yep, that's that's exactly what's going on.

Jessamyn: It was really great when I was in the game of thrones was getting to have kind of explain some of that stuff to me that I was just like what what even is no right maybe like well that's how you know

Unknown: that's that's that's the history of house cluster fuck

Cortex: you want a quick math and music minute? Sure. What would I do if he said no

Unknown: I did all this planning for nothing here's some nice

Unknown: display did a little song for G man yeah

Cortex: you can talk about that or no

Jessamyn: I mean that's all I had a basically like he had he had talked to T man before he died and was like I will make a you know some sort of music thing when I'm incredibly high in your honor. And he did

Cortex: he smoked a bunch and shared it Yes, it was called g man there's also this is surprisingly great. I mean, not surprising because I'm philosophy is great.

Cortex: I feel like I should deliberately accidentally still say unclean nosy. But this is this is the episode where you the listener who just realized it's uncle Ozzy realizes that it's not ugly as he was unclear a ton of people including me for many, many years, and probably see it just it like it parts like you see the unknown. You parse it as a prefix, and then it's like, I'm pleased. Oh my

Jessamyn: god, it's so good. I just listened to like the first six seconds of it. And I'm in love.

Cortex: Yes, he did a sort of power pop cover of how far I'll go from Ilana and it's great. It's super good. So go listen to that. I mean, I guess all of these are showing up in the podcast to

Cortex: there is beach week by q star. Ben, I still don't know what the pronunciation is supposed to be for that I should I look at the page maybe. Anyway, it's a it's good so it's, it's, it's it says lots of handclaps, too many handclaps, and I say, No, there's never enough handclaps. But it's a little the OP one is a little synthesizer that I think I talked about it when there was a previous Cuban track.

Unknown: He's Cuban, maybe the Cuban

Unknown: or possibly totally not.

Cortex: are you raising your hand in the hand raising?

Jessamyn: I was trying to get a screenshot of it. Like because if we both because your hand is just stays raised. Oh, does it?

Unknown: Yeah. And mine does not. Oh, that's why it says, hey, that's why it says hey, on the little icon, because your hand is raised.

Jessamyn: But what I'm trying to do. So I click the raise your hand button and it says hey, on mine, and hey, on yours, and it's kind of adorable. Yeah. It's like, hey, hey. And I like the Hey, look better. And I like the

Unknown: so you're, hey, stays around until I click on it. So it's been Hey, this whole time and I clicked on it. And it went on your

Jessamyn: side. Yes. On your on my side. years. said hey, the whole time. Yeah. Oh, and there's little Fedora guy. Please raise your hand again. Okay, there we go.

Cortex: All right. See, I can't make mine go away.

Unknown: And this is good. Good.

Cortex: Let's talk about the interface of our podcasting app.

Jessamyn: Try data filter music digression Yeah, I interrupted your music. No,

Cortex: no, it's fine. I and we interrupted it together. Also, Juju by TV name. This is a pretty cool weird as a safe trip poppy thing using

Cortex: somebody else's lyrics. And then it's TV name, doing backing track stuff. And saxophone and fit it are real cute doing vocals. And it's great.

Cortex: And then finally, this tiny little song from Google, who I think has been Facebook is doing panels on some white label. It's fantastic. It's called I got an eyeball and it's just a very short song about having an eyeball so that was great having an

Jessamyn: eyeball like in your head like I've got an eyeball meaning I don't have to eyeballs or I have two eyeballs and this extra one

Cortex: I think it's open to interpretation to listen to think over you go with it where you will

Cortex: but yeah so there's your medical for music minute and I don't know maybe that's it maybe we did the whole thing

Cortex: so yeah next next time we talk it will be a month for here I don't know where

Jessamyn: he will have been the main and back I will be a couple days away from turning 50.

Unknown: I know very exciting.

Cortex: We should just like start remembering that medical through podcast episodes according to whatever. Jasmine's current ages. So like the next one will be like 58. And then 50 be and 50. 5050

Jessamyn: and a half. Yeah, 50 in one third. Yeah. I love it.

Unknown: Yeah, that that won't confuse anything.

Jessamyn: Nobody pays. Well, you know, I don't even pay attention to the numbers.

Cortex: Random plug for a game I've been enjoying. Because I like a good game. I know. Right? Me video games. There's a little mobile game called hold down. And it's like, it's a it costs $4. Which is like an impossible lot of money for it. But you know, the people who made I No, no, I just. I genuinely I've gotten like three hours of pure joy out of this dumb little game. It's just really nicely done. And I've been like a lot and hey, maybe if the fact that mobile games are impossible to sell for money, because the economic factors are totally fucked. People play Alto. Yeah, well, and yeah, and also is a good example of a nice little game the cost couple bucks, and it's totally worth it. And I think hold down is also totally worth it. If you like, bouncing balls around and digging down into mysterious planets with tearful little dudes.

Jessamyn: So maybe check and ladies,

Cortex: abstract persons. I should I should get away from dudes. I I would say dudes. And ladies. And who knows? They're they're strange little flying ballrooms. So

Cortex: yeah, it does seem like it could be safely pulled out of a patriarchal default of pronouns for sure. Um, and that's pod. gasps I love it. Good talking. 1430. Right.