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A transcript for Episode 141: "Is Cereal A Sandwich" (2018-06-04.)

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Cortex: It's such a Lazy Sunday.

Jessamyn: Oh dude, tell me about it.

I don't

Unknown: I call these Slow Loris days

Unknown: where you just kind of walk around like a slightly dim mammal. Just being like

Unknown: I drove like seven hours home from the Finger Lakes yesterday and it was a great drive and I had a really good trip and everything was fine. But like regardless of how fine it is, the next day is always a bit of a hangover

Unknown: and the weather is beautiful today, just great. So

Unknown: all those things I just want to like sit around and smell the flowers and do

Unknown: nothing. Ferdinand it's the way to be.

Unknown: I think so bullet up

Cortex: I think so long it's been a long time since I've read Ferdinand

like I know I know Ferdinand the ball but like again the last time actually consumed me

Unknown: you know portion of the fruit now the fall I honestly can't picture it was a picture book right?

Jessamyn: Yeah. And the thing I know about it special is that Elliott Smith had a tattoo of burden on the shoulder ah

and so it's always that's the resonant frequency of it for me because he was also kind of a kind gentle quiet guy as you know he went to Hampshire so

Unknown: a lot but I know my little

Cortex: apparently there was a CGI film that came out like six months ago to that I was completely unaware of about the further in the ball and the ball starring john scene is

Unknown: great

Unknown: Oh really? Yeah like john see now also so

Unknown: I guess that's okay Ferdinand the ball in story of Ferdinand I'm reading Wikipedia and it's from 1936 How

Unknown: great is that it's you know it's it's an antique book

Unknown: I

Cortex: guess we should say this is a this is Episode 141 of the medical podcast that's what we're doing we're doing a podcast

Unknown: yeah

Unknown: i am

Unknown: i'm Cortex A k Josh

Unknown: apparently every like soft spoken I don't know

Unknown: mixing it up

Cortex: and I'm Jessamine also known as nothing just Jessamine you should come up with like a fake real name that just means like you're weird internet handle that you also known as Linda

Unknown: Linda

Unknown: Linda shap worth

Unknown: the

Cortex: wait to work on this for next time when we'll just both have new real names. Next Next episode snuck in a new song last month.

Well, it turns out I need to know these things ahead of time. Not like the what now a new song. I mean, it didn't exist until after we recorded. So it's like, not like I could have told

me about it. Well, I mean, I disclose the fact that there was a new song in the tweet, which is usually our post podcast recording

Unknown: Josh is are yours in mine. I learned things. That's where I just repeat things out

Cortex: to the world. Well, I I've been thinking about that, actually. Because I think that's a really good dynamic we have right right at that tweet. And then you just change the appropriate now just to make it like you talking about me instead of me talking about, you know, saying, you know, we reach probably 75% of the same people probably, but hey, whatever. I think people enjoy it. Yeah, but I was thinking, should I, should I, at some point, try and construct a tweet that just doesn't lend itself to that just a cause. Like you see what happens when you like either either you're not paying attention like Yeah,

Unknown: and I

Cortex: just been west from from Portland, Oregon. Wait a second.

Unknown: Now I'm

Unknown: looking like it's doing that and then doesn't

Unknown: do it. You know, my, you know, home of the Portland on the West Coast or whatever. You know,

Unknown: you have a Portland over here.

Unknown: Yeah. Also. Yeah, though.

Unknown: I haven't been there in quite some time.

Unknown: Well, I'd like to see a try, I guess. Yeah, we'll see what happens. I may have just

Cortex: exercise entirely the impetus to do it by talk. Which is always

a good way to get rid of ideas. You know, like, on the one hand, there's, like, there's, there's a certain degree of sort of, like, bullshitting. NET ever doing the thing, because you just keep talking about how you're going to do a thing. And I think there's room for like, you know, if you if there's a thing you keep talking about how you want to do, you should actually just do it like, you know, or at least take a stab at doing it, maybe you'll do a bad job, maybe won't work, maybe you could learn that their assumptions were making that you need to figure out still all sorts of things you can learn when you try and do a thing, but, you know, just try and do it and, you know, then you like, actually had a chance of doing it, instead of always talking about how someday you're going to do it. And I think they're hoping for a lot of people. Twitter is like a leader valve for that rate,

Jessamyn: bleed or valve for doing anything, because you're always kind of talking about it and joking about it. And, oh, one of these days, blah, blah. But what you're really doing is typing in a box on the internet. Unless what you're doing is whatever,

making a Twitter bot or, you know,

Unknown: crafting some, some dank memes or something.

Cortex: Yeah, Twitter kind of tell certainly be a means of production, depending on the specific thing you're doing. But But generally, I think that's true, like, and I certainly do that all the time, I'll do stuff that was like, you know, half jokey tweets where I say, Well, here's a, here's an idea for a game. I think I just did that today. It's like, you know, and it's not because I can, like, there's a really good idea for a game and I need to work on it so hard that go tell Twitter about it. It's more like, this would be kind of funny. Someone did it, but I'm not gonna. And so I'm just going to do that. And I think that's the flip side. Like, there's the well, stop saying you're going to do a thing and go do the thing thing. But there's also the admit that you don't actually want to do the thing and just go talk about the thing and put it out there. Let it be a universe. Yeah, and there's some great I have

Jessamyn: two responses to that right, number one, now that you've got kind of a burgeoning art hoppy, I think a lot of people are a lot happier, giving you a lot of leeway with all the projects you don't finish, which is cool, because you do finish a lot of projects. And number two, at least you're not tweeting about your wife's. Oh my god, I missed this. Apparently I missed this. Okay, so let's let's

Unknown: I am aware of

Cortex: the Teen Vogue get your best summer thing. I thought that going around like a week ago, you didn't see Matt and his I have eaten the plums that were in the wild Jesus. Oh, you think about it because you can't think about Matt and K having that kind

of I mean I didn't feel like that was a tweet about K I felt like that was a tweet about a figurative

like this is going back to the year mom joke thing where your mom joke. It couldn't in some cases, be an actual cutting attack on someone specific mom. But generally speaking, if it's discussing a figurative Mom, I guess this is just a different way you and I view the world, you know,

Unknown: cuz I'm often very defensive about mom jokes in the same way that I

Unknown: was just like, dude, really. But

Jessamyn: clearly, I was the person who took it off

Cortex: way because it does feel like a somewhat specific interpretation of the tweet. seems much more of a I'm going to combine William Carlos Williams with a

you know C grade pun on vaginas

without actually trying to kind of rhymes with icebox. Yeah, you know, I don't know. Yeah, no, I mean, I see where you're coming from now. But yeah, I was. I was worried that I had missed some sort of frank discussion of anatomy. And it's like

this is I'm actually feeling genuinely relieved right now that this is just a disagreement on the degree of specificity for interpretation of William Carlos. Yes. So

he hasn't been on an episode of the show in the Oh, I don't know how long now. But it's nice to know that man still shows up one way all the time.

Unknown: He's active on the internet, where you and I both at least sometimes live. Yep.

Unknown: Sometimes. Yes. Sometimes be

Unknown: offline

Unknown: world. Like,

Unknown: I got like the weirdest thing. I'm thinking about driving back from upstate New York yesterday, which was like, I don't know, like a seven hour drive. I stopped once or twice is literally like being offline that

Unknown: much time during a day

Unknown: is slightly unusual for Yeah, you know,

Unknown: just because I thought, think of my phone in my pocket.

Jessamyn: And even if I'm doing something else, like hiking or going for a walk, or hanging out with my friends, you know, if something makes a noise at me, which is usually just texting, but occasionally, like, I'll check Twitter or something else. But like, when I drive the car? I do not. So yeah, it was very interesting. Being kind of that disconnected.

Unknown: And then I got home was like, What happened? And you know,

Unknown: the answer is still nothing.

Unknown: And summer is good like that, too. Yep.

Cortex: See, so hey, 141 has one interesting thing about it besides being a palindrome, or just the fact that it's a palindrome? palindrome

Unknown: is kind of. He for

Jessamyn: her to help it out. Well, and you did for shadow this in the last podcast.

Unknown: So I guess

Unknown: the fact that there's any connection at all between the podcasts is sort of adorable. Yeah, something

Unknown: it's only about 141. It's, it's one of those numbers.

Cortex: Remember what those are

Unknown: like, right? You gotta start with one

Jessamyn: around it. And then more dots around those dots. And I kind of like those like, like, one 510, 1526, 1630.

Unknown: That's how much you add each time. Oh, one and then add five? I am sorry. Yeah,

Cortex: yes, I've been thinking about number, numeric sequences a lot really, can I just say, I love those crazy cut out nonsense things you do. And you should probably like, quit your job and started selling those smart nerds for their children. I'm gonna, I'm gonna keep my job. And this is the plan. And maybe I'll actually get around to that this week, I've had the backward systems

supply so that I wouldn't be like, hey, these are for sale. Oops, I sold three.

Unknown: And now I'm out. And hey, I'm going on vacation and whatever.

Unknown: Yeah, but they're really cool. Like, no, they're activating. You know, like, I like your art generally. But these like, I like, I have to stop looking at

Unknown: them. Because I liked them too much. I feel like they really like split

Cortex: the difference between sort of, like a graphical idea. Like, I've certainly these are coming from partly the same places, a lot of the painting work I've been painting tends to be like, okay, here's a four square foot composition that's got like these ideas in it. And it's all there together in a piece. And these are more like, if you grabbed a square inch of a painting. And another square of paintings are sort of played with them. And it's, it's, it's interesting how different that is, as a way to, sort of

Unknown: tactile,

Unknown: fiddly aspect of it is, I think, really the thing that makes it more engaging, right? Like, you can look at the thing and be like, well, that's probably loosely with the inside of Josh, his brain looks like not like with this thing. You can like, mess around with it. And you're like, well, that's kind of what the inside of my brain looks like, or part of it, you know, so at any rate, I liked it. Oh, speaking of other things, we chair How

Cortex: are you liking your first two days of trivia a great deal I I enjoyed I enjoyed both days. And it's been fun popping on the forum a little bit and seeing you on there. And and I've won both of my matches so far. So that's very exciting. That isn't me

Unknown: better

Jessamyn: than my other refer. I don't know how Kevin plunking is doing. So Josh has joined the learned league as my refer, which is the backstory for people who maybe have missed all the other things. And somehow

Unknown: I got to refer to guys this time Is it because of the the server problems

Unknown: because I'm afraid one of you guys will get

Unknown: now I don't remember what Kevin's last name is. It's like plunking or something. At any rate. I won one in last one. And I think one of my other referrals or a friend of mine who got referred by someone else last one and tied one and you know I want people to have a good time to the extent that they can. So

Unknown: we're doing well. Yes,

Cortex: it's tricky. Like I'm happy that I'm doing well. But I had tribute to nothing to it because it's such a small sample size and I shall like I'll be I'll be I'll be very happy for turns out that I actually do reasonably well in general, but it's also possible have a couple of strong opening days and then like really just blow chunks for a week and I'm I'm emotionally okay with that. To Kevin Lumpkin.

Unknown: That's my other referral has has lost to no no

Unknown: and and lost just

Unknown: flat out because the people he were was playing answer more questions right then. He did all right. Kevin,

Cortex: did you get the Michael Flatley question right.

Unknown: Who

Unknown: is that the Lord of the dance?

Unknown: Yeah, I had no idea like when you saw Michael Flatley, were you like oh, Michael Flatley, Lord of the dance guy. Yeah, I mean,

Unknown: no, okay. But yeah, about that. It's, it's weird, because, like, it was like,

Cortex: his name left to my mind immediately when I started reading, like, you know, Irish dancing, blah, blah, blah, like, Yeah, but 1975 and see that

Jessamyn: old but then I was like, you know, dance Lord is like, okay, Lord, it's gotta be Lord of the dance. But I wouldn't have known his name, you know,

Unknown: I wouldn't have known as name at all, like,

Unknown: I got it after the fact. I was like, Oh,

Jessamyn: yeah, that must be his name. Now, I should like Gregory Hines or something. I was like, who is who was dancing? Which I thought was, you know, I thought was gonna be that kind of irony. You know, like, and also he's black, so that's unusual.

Unknown: And also it was like, who danced in the 70s like Mikhail Baryshnikov and? Gregory Hines the end? Yeah.

Cortex: Yeah. No, it's weird. I basically learned that everything I thought I knew about Michael Flatley was wrong, but hey,

but but also, you know, yes. Anyway, it's been it's been a delightful time, we'll probably talk about it too much, because I'm just gonna go over all the questions. No fun, but it's been great to see you there. And I'm glad it's working. Yeah, having a good time.

Unknown: So yeah,

Cortex: meta filter stuff. Let's, let's, let's do the specific thing with let's take a look at the jobs board. Every

Unknown: job is great jobs the jobs find Milagros.

Unknown: Okay. I don't know what that means. And I read the question, and I still don't know what it means. And it's in Portland. So can you tell me what that

Cortex: means? I don't know offhand, either. I mean, I know bindi so I don't know what she's looking for. But I presumably anyone who could actually help her find it will know what it is. So you know, if you're in Portland, and you can help bendy out with whatever the hell and bloggers are.

Unknown: This is your this is your opportunity. I mean, Wikipedia didn't help. Like, it's just a nightmare.

Unknown: I I'm not used to like that

Unknown: much. Not knowing what a word means.

Unknown: You know what I mean? Yeah,

Unknown: very confusing.

Unknown: But yeah, there's a great job at PETA.

Jessamyn: There's a great job at New York Public Radio, there's a interactive developer job, probably the only job where I'm not like, Oh, it's a great job. Because I don't know what interactive development is full stack.

Unknown: You know how those things go PFC 2000s looking for someone to help her do ukuleles

Jessamyn: stuff. And then there's a solution architect which again is like interactive whatever, designer but you know, you'll know if it's you and it's a messages its job. So anybody who knows me personally, that's kind of near where you know, I am in the summer.

Unknown: So yeah, get on it. People drops.

Unknown: Yeah,

Unknown: they're good jobs. And I almost I'm working on some like, I

Jessamyn: want to get all the Vermont libraries that have websites onto the Vermont Library Association website. So you can click through and link to all of them. But it's proven more difficult than I thought it would be. Because all I have an Excel spreadsheet, and I have to turn it into an HTML thing. And so for somebody who's smart

Unknown: with that kind of stuff, I suspect it would take 10 minutes.

Jessamyn: But for someone like me, who's doing a lot of dumb Find and Replace like a dumb calculator, it's sort of hard. So I may actually toss it up on jobs and be like, Look, this takes you five minutes, I'll give you 10 bucks. And that's a pretty good hourly rate. Just

Unknown: please. No, dude. Like, I put

Unknown: it into Google Docs. But the HTML Google Docs does is appalling. You know, it'll export HTML, but it's got all this

Unknown: in it. Yeah, I

Unknown: don't know. I feel like

Unknown: there's an easy way and I you

Unknown: know, it's a, you know,

Cortex: I don't, I don't generally like

look forward to the idea of like, apocalypse is exactly, but I

Unknown: if there was some sort of, like

Unknown: alien virus

Unknown: sent

Unknown: towards Earth by

Cortex: like, like vengeful, angry aliens,

possibly benevolent ones, I don't know where this is going. All it did was destroy the infrastructure of document types

on earth. And we just had to start over from scratch with like, you know, relatively straightforward relational databases and flat file text.

Unknown: I think I'd be okay with that. I think I

Jessamyn: used to work with flat file text rate. So I could do like a complicated series of finding replaces where every time there's a new line, replace it with a draft equals, but I can't do it in a spreadsheet. And I'm not clever enough with relational databases. Yeah, but yeah, no, I'm with you. And especially because I'm in a Mac environment. So I have pages and numbers, not Word and Excel as opposed to sheets and, whatever that thing is. And yeah,

Unknown: but it's still I'm ahead of almost

Jessamyn: everybody else in the state of Vermont, in terms of being able like in the library community. Yeah, like just having these on the web where someone could click them. Like, Oh, hi, you're on the Vermont Library Association website. Maybe you'd like to go see where some Vermont libraries are the

Unknown: maybe. So that's, that's my little project for today. It's not going to

Cortex: it's good project. Speaking of projects, one of the projects

Unknown: maybe all

Unknown: projects Well, not have a job post or projects that were no projects for three weeks. Two weeks,

Unknown: it was pretty quiet. Yeah, I don't know.

Cortex: I don't know people just do another I guess.

And then that cluster like of that on May 22, like scribbling. All right projects. I should submit that project. It's weird

Unknown: spring break. I like projects. But it was like some Twitter stuff. Some Twitter stuff um, you know,

Unknown: cat depth

Unknown: documentary at that thing was interesting. So this was

Unknown: Miss Jenny put this together. I think. I think she had that awesome project. Let me double check. And she's done a lot of really cool project.

Unknown: LinkedIn thought leadership generator, didn't she do the one about

Unknown: the homeless? Um,

Unknown: yeah, you can have like, a can

Unknown: of corn your name on a can of corn. It was that project that kind of nobody got really. But I loved it. Really. One of my favorite things.

Unknown: I'm trying to remember names, names for change.

Unknown: So like, Hey, you donate to a shelter and get your name on a toothbrush or something. Yeah, yeah.

Unknown: And I enjoyed it conceptually. But I'm sorry, go on with your dead

Unknown: cat. Dead

Cortex: Catholic, which I have to say. It's, it's tricky. On the one hand, you're trying to sort of be accessible and play on Hey, cute cats. And cats are fun and games with cats. And you're also playing on Hey, you know, you wouldn't want cats to be unhappy or whatnot. And the game basically takes these two things with the premise to try and motivate you to do a good job of doing financial management through a cat metaphor. And I think it's worth poking at me and Secretary like, played through like three different scenario which is sort of tested out. But it's a little bit tricky, because it's really it's, it's trying to discourage you from foolishly getting into debt is the educational context for this, which is awesome. And the thing is, the cats are the debt. So the game teaches you that debt is hard to manage, and can get out of control. No matter what. By creating a no win scenario where you're just

Unknown: swimming in depth.

Unknown: A little bit Turkey, messaging wise.

Unknown: Yeah.

Unknown: But I thought was cute. And I

Cortex: always like, I had this bad tendency to, like, look at, like, educational demonstration games be like, Yeah, but to really make this work as a really solid, satisfying, replaceable game. You should do this. And that was like, Dude, it's not right. They're doing they're not trying to make it like the next fact. You played it at all. Yeah,

Unknown: exactly. So I thought, I thought it was nice. I thought the messaging is complicated. I mean, it looks amazing. The stuff that she builds amazing, just generally speaking, but

Unknown: yes, I don't know

Unknown: I'm well at some point in my life, where all these things like, poke me in like a weird way. And I'm just like, even though like, I know, that's me.

Cortex: There's also max barbers up to his old tricks. Well, new tricks, he's up to tricks.

Unknown: He's also his birthday was right.

Unknown: I'm pretty sure you be I'm so bad at birthday.

Jessamyn: Not bad. When somebody is actually on a social media service being like, hey, it's my birthday. But Max also tweets a lot. So I'm not totally sure if I'm going to be able to get to a point where oh, wait to see us the birthday? Yes. birthday was the eighth of May. So job. Yeah. Happy birthday. I was like, clicking through Twitter. Like, Where's his birthday? Oh, right. Yeah, that feature I met a filter. it. Yeah, happy

Cortex: birthday, Max. And, sorry, go on about his phone thing. He's writing poems, written poems from Twitter.

They fill on Twitter. So either not like old Twitter. They're not like, you know, always 140 characters or less. But you know, still short and you know, no one's even gonna remember Twitter even used to be on and it's gonna be weird. like five years from now. There's Hey, remember when Twitter existed and we were not yet destroyed by the alien anti document type.

Unknown: When Twitter was still a format that things could be in before the virus from the aliens made us

Unknown: Twitter's HTML, even as much as I you know,

Unknown: I love to hate it for all sorts of reasons. At least it's HTML. For the most part.

Jessamyn: I was just reading something earlier today about Instagram, you know, disclosing the secret sauce of their algorithm or whatever the

Unknown: those guys but like Instagram is like, even more of a closed environment than Twitter is. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Unknown: Every

Unknown: every time. Hanukkah comes around,

Unknown: and I'm like, there's one candle. There's three. There's two.

Unknown: We're back for

Unknown: so

Unknown: you know. I don't I don't

Jessamyn: there. I'll go there. Stupid algos. Twitter's at least HTML yet. Yeah. You know,

Cortex: I was gonna mention this one. Actually, this is sort of like mentioning it to address the fact that maybe it's so so as a project, but they think that's kind of interesting. And hey, Tom. Interesting. The Frank Lucas documentary, which is, it's, it's a perfectly nice short, five minute film about a BMX rider nicely put together, etc. But it's also like the first project project from a brand new person. Yeah, so it's a filmmaker slash Film Company, signed up and posted a project and honestly signing up and posting projects the okay way to do it. Sometimes I will just not put that project through. But at least you will not be banned for spamming because you didn't do anything wrong. You just displayed questionable to outright poor taste.

Unknown: In this case, I didn't. It was

Cortex: it was nice enough. You know, it's I always feel worried about like, branded short films,

Unknown: because, like, presented by blah. But that's kind of like it's in this

Unknown: if that's how you get your money to make it thing that has utility. Right. Exactly. And like, I don't think

Cortex: I don't think it's even a question of like, well, doesn't justify the existence of this five minute documentary if it's branded, because like, whatever. No, that's like, there's a ton of cool on Vimeo. It's a little bit weird when it's my projects, because it's like, what, what's the, you know, the communitarian aspect of this

Unknown: chat. But

Cortex: it turns out that sometimes as like, a first time one off, I'll say, Okay, we'll see where this goes.

Unknown: I mean, that's kind of one of the things I liked about meta filter, you know, like, you can do that. And there's human beings there who will, like, make

Unknown: sure this doesn't get out of control, basically. And it's later like, Well, no, no, right?

Jessamyn: Or this is out of control. So you are done.

Unknown: last podcast, by the way, one month ago,

Unknown: it was a little bit later.

Cortex: I think that one sat for a couple days to I was just busy after we recorded if I remember, I don't know, whatever. Anyway, maybe today. I'll go on the record. It's June 3, we already said with Sunday, but I'll say people from doing the detective work. It's Sunday, June 3.

Jessamyn: Yeah. I just was going to try and figure out what among my links kind of fit

Unknown: fit into the time.

Unknown: Time. Time, time,

Unknown: time. Time, or on my side? Yes, this is

Unknown: high

Unknown: that that song when you got money back,

Unknown: you got a money back guarantee. I like that.

Unknown: I think

Cortex: that could be a hold over into commercial advertising.

Unknown: Well, I mean, that's what we're talking about right

Unknown: now.

Unknown: Come on, man. Tom

Unknown: turn,

Unknown: you're talking about minute filter.

Unknown: The blue?

Unknown: Yeah, I do.

Unknown: Um,

Unknown: there was a lot of let me let me sort out my tabs real quick, because, you know,

Unknown: the blue and the green, I have to say, they kind of look like each other

Unknown: when you're looking at just the

Unknown: the little teeny the little teeny feedback on Yeah,

Jessamyn: although here's the thing that was I found really interesting meta filter this month. There were a couple times at least where I saw a thing on the internet, I came over to meta filter, and people were already talking about the thing on the internet. And it was fun to talk to them about it. It's excellent read, or at least read along. So one of the early examples of it, and I don't think this minute into the podcast was kale, Mara's, uh, basically just a link like this campaign. Oh, this is America. Here's the video. The link is completely I mean, the post is the minimum viable post you could make basically for

Unknown: this topic. But, you know,

Unknown: there was a great conversation and if you were kind of familiar with the context around it, he had performed

Unknown: the song on Saturday Night Live, and then the song dropped, I guess, as the kids say, Ah,

Unknown: right, then, like at

Jessamyn: night, and so then everybody was kind of thinking about it and talking about it over the Sunday and then kind of Monday was when all the thought pieces and think pieces and stuff came out and you know, that video there's a lot going on in that video.

Cortex: It's funny actually, we got a contact form just the other day from someone saying hey, I'm kind of bothered I don't understand what the rationale is. I made a post and then it was deleted and I think that was the wrong decision because it certainly seemed worth discussing you know, it's sure it's just a single music video but it seemed really you

know, I thought it was like a lot going on and would have been searched for you know, thoughtful, no filter discussion and it was that Childish Gambino video and they hit just not noticed that it was a double and that's why there was like, a everything

right? Yes, you your your, your analysis of the content worthiness of that is episode someone else has got their first so that worked out very well. But

Unknown: But yeah, yeah.

Unknown: And I had kind of not really paid

Jessamyn: that much attention. The video like right after did come out just because everyone was like, Oh, my God, and I was like, sounds heavy. I don't want to deal with it just yet. And so then a couple days later, I looked at it. And then I watched a lot of videos about

Unknown: the video. And then I kind of, you know, dove into the thread. And I found a lot of their there and enjoyed it. Yeah. And, you know,

Unknown: Donald Glover is just everywhere this month, because I just saw solo last week so hey, yep.

Unknown: Which you know, I spent some time on fanfare this solo throat I'm fanfare is like the gift that just keeps

Unknown: on giving

Unknown: I still new to the movie. So haven't touched it. Not that I'm okay.

Cortex: I'm not. I'm not as worried about spoilers as I might be with something else. Because it's like to a certain stack. I know that deal. Han and Julian Lando are gonna live I'm pretty sure they're gonna make it through and they meet each other.

Unknown: And I mean, there's a lot wrong with the movie. But I enjoy

Unknown: the thread was fun because

Jessamyn: it's all meta filter people talking about liking it or not liking it in that kind of nerd way. where it's like, well, I really thought this thing about the robot and whatever. Oh, well, that wasn't my interpretation. So this other thing Well, I thought and, you know, it's a friendly conversation, even though people are like, you know, was it just kind of fan service the movie or was there actually something going on there? Yeah, but I watched it, I guess opening week I didn't even know like, it was just at my theater.

Unknown: Um, and Jim and I were walking around and we're like, we're tired. Let's

Unknown: watch this movie. And yeah,

Unknown: and then the threads been just going and going and going and fanfare which has been nice

Unknown: so a lot of Donald Glover and I had kind of

Jessamyn: I don't like Atlanta very much so because I'm still in the beginning of it there's just no women in it

Unknown: sounds like

Unknown: Donald Glover

Unknown: and so it's been nice to

Unknown: you know, find things about him that I could connect to yeah

Cortex: I really dug this post about making an iPhone jello why I cannot post from you ask them on and it's

a video from a YouTube channel called q army Japan

that like post nothing but

weird like knife making and weapons stuff and I like

Unknown: they're not the people with the cat

Unknown: kitchen cooking cat people. I assume not. You would know

Unknown: if you watch this channel at all.

Cortex: Okay, no, I mean I know lots of challenges I found out of it because of this post but if you if you like making a gel out a knife that's so weird. like okay, well what about making a knife out of literally everything else do they're just like they're going down the list

so it's kind of like the Will It Blend people accepted? So will it nice yeah. Will it turn into a knife and the answer is always yes so yeah just like it always yes I mean I only see videos of looking like what knives I'm watching this jello knife but yeah yeah it's great it's just like okay let's let's create some

you know gelatin setup and turn it into a knife and then cut some stuff to prove that it's actually sharp and then melt it back down and put the gelatin treats back in the little capsules they came out of the whole thing's great

Unknown: little jelly treats we gave them out for Halloween one year we're just like what

Unknown: No

Unknown: Is that what you don't like them or just just cuz I don't know that's where I kind of draw the line with gummy stuff it's a little bit too much like Flon or something just not my thing not like other people shouldn't enjoy it yeah

Unknown: but we we tried to give them out to people and

Unknown: did not work this is great I love it

Unknown: it's good stuff

Jessamyn: speaking of music which apparently is what a lot of the things I liked this month I'm the very recent kid from Cleveland who wanted to persuade Weezer to cover todos Africa

Unknown: This

Unknown: is how can you say you're an internet user

Cortex: i don't know i mean there's a lot of internet is basically plus if it didn't involve making small political piles I may have missed last week

Unknown: it's yeah i mean this is just I saw because Twitter

Unknown: very briefly blew up about it

Jessamyn: it was just you know a kid on the Twitter essentially just a bug Weezer about doing this cover and then they finally did nice

Unknown: yeah and it's that easy

Cortex: I'm trying to I'm trying to decide if I even like I mean I kind of want to hear it just because it's come up now i don't know if i think that Weezer would do a cover of Africa that I would like like not that would be bad but I don't know if like rivers Cuomo really has like the covering Africa voice

Jessamyn: No, probably not. Although I you know, I saw the acapella version of it that one time, which I think also was on metal filter A long time ago. And that was just so good. I just basically never want to listen to that song again, because I am done.

Cortex: Yeah, and there's those there's those two guys who play in bars. And they just do covers of all sorts of stuff on like, electric bass and acoustic guitar that there was a post about the few years back that I really enjoyed, too. Yeah, it's a it's a good song for covering. So I think this was actually kind of like, this is the downside of like, too much stuff is available down internet covers, like a band doing an unlikely cover, it feels like that was like this really sort of weird cool random thing like a real discovery thing. And like the mid 90s, late 90s like was when I started paying attention this goes through from before that but like

Unknown: you get singer songwriters doing a singer songwriter version of

Jessamyn: like a rap song. I mean, that was when the chords did like gin and juice. And I know that there's, you know, problematic appropriation versions of it. But you really did get the alt country versions because everybody was doing all country back then.

Cortex: Well, and I mean, what I'm getting at is like, you know, you had access to what you could actually find which up to a certain point before like the rise of mp3 trading, essentially, you know, and this is before it, so we're talking like mid late 90s as mp3 came around. And then later on his YouTube came around I think that's part of it. Like it used to be kind of a hustle to find that weird cover that that band did of that song and now you could like spend like literally a week non stop just listening to bands, doing covers of other bands, songs that would fall into a slightly quirky territories like there's this this ridiculous so I've heard like, you know, probably 20 different covers of non Weezer songs by Weezer. And it turns out that like, we're just not a super interesting cover band, like I'm sure it'd be great, be at a show like, and you're seeing Weezer and then they play a song that you like, by another banner, like, this is rad, you know, but like for me just sitting down on YouTube. Like

Unknown: I always click on this and then I'm like, you know,

Unknown: and that's it's a weird thing. It's a

Cortex: couple overflowing runneth over that's what it's going for

Unknown: yeah and

Unknown: it made me like go try it like I

Unknown: am back that up

Unknown: I had the

Jessamyn: Center for cartoon studies is near here and they had an exhibit at the little art space down the street from me and I was a gallery monitor at one point and I got to read every comic book that they had there because not a lot of people came into the gallery which was their last because it was amazing but one of the things in the gallery that somebody had done for like a senior project at the Center for cartoon studies was

Unknown: like a fanzine about Weezer and

Jessamyn: I've never given Weezer any thought whatsoever, you know what I mean, like when I got my windows 2000 computer, they were there singing this sweater song, and that was the beginning in the end of anything I thought about with Weezer, you know, they were they might have been the first like video I saw in like the late 90s

Unknown: on a computer. Sure, you know,

Unknown: before the internet and everything else.

Cortex: What didn't like Buddy Holly, come on Windows CDs for a while?

Yeah. Was it buddy? Holly? I thought it was the sweater song. But one of them. Yeah. Well, buddy, Holly had like, it was it was that was the one with the house Happy Days thing going on. And I feel like that was it. Yeah, it's such a production piece.

Remember, remember, back in the 90s when, hey, we made this sort of look like the aesthetic of an old show was like a mind blowing piece of video production and not like, okay, yeah,

Unknown: so.

Cortex: So that got done, like, you know, weekend effects shop.

Right. A child could do that during recess now. Yeah, yeah. Well, and I wish I could stop playing fortnight for five minutes. Am I right? The

Unknown: kid

Unknown: maybe we'll come back to that. You were saying? I'm sorry. Well, no, I just can't

Jessamyn: track down the scene because it was like some tiny little local made thing and I kind of want to find it. So I could comment in the thread and be like, you should read this Weezer scene, but it wound up being actually very hard to sort of track down. Yeah, you know,

somewhere somewhere. I wrote it. I don't know.

Unknown: I enjoyed this. This post about

Cortex: bad childhood sports memories, essentially.

And it's interesting. I enjoyed it mostly for this is a meta filter thread. I know there's going to be interesting. You're starting to sound a little wobbly, by the way. Am I?

Unknown: Yeah. Just you were for a second. Interesting. Well, let's keep an eye on that.

Unknown: Now. You sound okay. All right.

Cortex: So I'm sorry. I didn't mean No, no, no, no, no, no. Anyway, it's a it's a, it's a post about basically, remembering knows that terrible thing that happened when you were playing sports as a kid like, you know, that sports failure that you you can't forget the time that you dropped that easy pop fly to right field that would have won you guys the game that sort of like moment, and the thread that ensues is everybody talking about their sports fail? Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's a perfect setup for that. And, you know, a whole lot of people have memories about stuff there. You know, I ended up sort of talking about some of my weird childhood sports memories. And it's an interesting mix of like, variously funny and crunchy anecdotes. And then people sort of

talking about the ideas and the systems that lead to situations along the lines of childhood sports fails in the way I was really slow and small. And so I always got picked last for everything. And nobody wanted me on their team. Also, I was very shy and cried easily. So yeah, like, I can just imagine what

Unknown: although I was actually pretty good at like, kickball and a couple other things, you know? But like,

Jessamyn: other than that, I can also remember visiting my cousins in Arkansas in 1976 and playing kickball and like kicking some ball and one of the boys we were playing with was like, I've never seen a girl kick a ball like that. I'm like, Are you kidding me? Like, I am small and weak. You know what? But, you know, that was the South. Basically,

I'm gonna look forward to reading this thread. I think you'll, I think you'll enjoy it. There's, there's stuff that you on to this. It's funny, like, I got over it. Like elementary school sports were the worst. And then for whatever reason, by the time I was doing sports in high school, like we could do frisbee, I played lacrosse, a little bit like, I was never sporty. And I didn't get any better at stuff. But like, I found like, a path that didn't suck for me. And there were no like, antagonists.. Ed's playing with me. Like, you know, the antagonists. that's like, went to go play Real Sports and left the rest of us to just flounder around in gym class. You know what I mean? Like, if you were on a team, you didn't go to gym, which meant the gym was no longer full of incredible because they were all in teams.

Unknown: Yeah, perfect.

Unknown: Well, that's great. I'll go back and read that thread. You should,

Unknown: what was the other thing? Oh, this was like a random thread from 2010.

Unknown: But I was listening to my favorite ti

Jessamyn: trivia podcasts. And they talked about the clown egg register, where if you have like a clown face, and you want to, like register it like to be like, this is my cloud face. And nobody can take my cloud trace of your professional cloud

Unknown: you painted on an egg. And

Unknown: like you do,

Jessamyn: there's a register of these eggs or there was so I was going to come to filter and post this. But I was having a hard time finding the actual thing. And then I found this post by death delicious from 2010. And it was a real thing. And now I'm not entirely sure that things still exist. But the the Flickr photo set that

Unknown: is from the Museum of these faces does still exist. So you can still look at these pictures but I think the museum where they were, you know,

Unknown: getting shown up may

Unknown: not be there or they may be archived or

Jessamyn: etc. etc, etc. At any rate, clown face egg register for words that you would not think would form a cohesive idea together. But they Yeah, yeah,

Cortex: no, that's that's great. And why not? It's a solid format. Sure. I mean, it's not I mean, it's solid. But

anyway, the key takeaway for me here is that national clown week dot coms sidebar of subsection site has two separate links about fear of clowns so much, is it necessary to address

Unknown: fear of clowns? That is one of those things that I didn't know until I became a lot more worldly, you know,

Unknown: like I was a kid were afraid of clowns with it. I wasn't afraid of clowns. And my sister wasn't afraid of clowns.

Jessamyn: I had like one friend who's afraid of clowns. And she was weird. I mean, weird for other reasons. So that didn't, didn't register as a kind

Unknown: of a normative thing.

Unknown: And it really wasn't until I got older, where I was like, Oh, my God, like, that's a real thing. You know,

Unknown: that's a real thing that lots of people are afraid of clowns. And it's fairly normative in a way I would not have thought

Cortex: there was, oh, gosh, fun little game. I feel like I should mention at least one interactive game every podcast and the devil Tesla posted about a game called tix tax

which is a ultimate Tic Tac Toe

online game ultimate tic tac toe. You say what is that? Imagine a tic tac toe board. Now imagine nine Tic Tac boat or boards, blah,

you can say I know it's a recursive tic tac toe is very overwhelming. So yes, it's a tic tac toe grid of Tic Tac Toe board. And you and the other player are taking turns playing and which of the boards you play on any given term is determined by

Unknown: the position of

Cortex: the Tic Tac Toe marker the opponent played in the previous and so if they're playing, if they play in the bottom left with the current board, then the next play will happen in the bottom left board. Unless, you know, certain late game hand wavy qualifiers, there's a couple complications. But it's weird. It's surprisingly, it goes from tic tac toe, which is classically the game where if you're good enough to be competent at it, you are a master. And also if you're like, it's like nothing ever happened. Yeah, just get

Unknown: all the rules. And then yes, it Congratulations.

Cortex: You've both learned to play the game well enough that there's literally no game because it's a tie every time whereas ultimate Tic Tac Toe seems actually kind of complicated and interesting, strategically. And so this is a nice online implementation. And it was kind of fun. Like when, whenever a post goes up, that has these online multiplayer games, you tend to run into fit playing the game when the post is active. So it's kind of funny that people run into each other. But anyways, deep it was worth checking out. If you feel like doing some complicated tic tac toe, I recommend it.

Jessamyn: I also have the things I like to talk about. I happened across the internet discussion what Roseanne said literally, as

Unknown: it was happening, where, you know, Jim was like, I don't remember if you like, getting up

Jessamyn: or like, we were getting ready to go. So I was like, reading the internet while he's like, tying his shoes. And I'm like, Oh,, Rosie, and said some. And he was like, What? And then I was kind of like, looking through it. And I was like, Oh, god, that's too bad. Like, she's totally like, up. Like, something bad's gonna happen

Unknown: and then I was like click click click Oh Ha.

Unknown: Her show got canceled like it It literally just gotten canceled when I was just catching up on whatever the perfect

Jessamyn: and then I learned a little bit more about you know the head of programming at ABC and you know hey representation matters and I was like I would like to talk to filter about this and the thread from Martin with did not disappoint just

Unknown: because you know if

Jessamyn: I felt like I showed up in the middle of it like I kind of knew what was up with Roseanne and it was kind of like this weird you know she's a trooper but she also has a show and it's kind of conservative but is it and what's really going on and so it was fun to read the meta filter hot takes on it because it really was like an odd situation that I really could use pre digested for me yeah

Unknown: nice

Cortex: yeah no i i saw it going by and was not following the whole thing but

immediately as soon as I saw that canceled just

came up with the easiest joke I could which was Roseanne Barr

oh I saw I think probably 1000 people probably made in that five minute window that's about that's been about the degree to which I actually engaged with a specific situation just as like I already knew she was kind of a piece of I don't really want to spend more time thinking about today but and you know then painted on Ambien and like I

Unknown: have taken Ambien and

Unknown: and so there was some funny, you know, if, you know, the Ambien manufacturers tweeted and they're like, hey, one of the side effects of this medicine isn't that it makes you racist. Like, there were a lot of like, funny brand tweets about the whole thing. Yeah, I mean, I think you know, the trick may be that maybe she drinks

Unknown: takes Ambien, maybe like, you know, sometimes she bought and maybe maybe

Cortex: a person. I mean, it's a long history of being racist is caused by her being racist. Yeah, yeah. It was just sort of weird to watch people try to be like, it wasn't me. It was the drugs and I'm like that drug is not the drug you would pick like the

Unknown: sleepy drug makes you wake up and be racist. Forget it.

Jessamyn: And the other thing that happened this weekend, actually. So I just got back

Unknown: from New York and

Unknown: I'm Song dog.

Unknown: Yeah. Does this covered

Unknown: bridge half

Unknown: marathon thing in Vermont.

Jessamyn: Uh, it's a couple towns over for me. And so we had dinner last night, which was lovely. And he's a wonderful man. He you may also know him as language at son in law. Um, how did I not do that and forgot but yeah, it must have known forgot. But he recommended because I was like, oh, doing the podcast tomorrow. He said. Say hi to Josh. So hi, Josh. Um,

Unknown: but this fascinating thread by cash for lead cash for lead lead.

Unknown: Yeah, about Sojourner Truth speech.

Unknown: Because basically, she her first language was Dutch

Unknown: and she gave this speech in Oh god. I don't remember there was her original speech and then there was the speech that got published eyes that was kind of like I don't know how

Unknown: you'd say it like kind of blacked

Jessamyn: up to make her sound more like a black woman and less like a black woman who basically spoke Dutch as a first language and then there's also the version of they're like kids read at school which isn't either of those versions and it's just a fascinating really interesting thread with an early comment I'm surprised you guys didn't delete about white feminists being terrible not that they're not but

Unknown: yeah

Unknown: I'm going to assume I was on shift let's look

Jessamyn: I'll put myself off the spot that was it was Friday were you working on Friday

Unknown: whatever is there's a lot of a lot of going on sometimes

Unknown: it was only one yeah

Cortex: it's like such a good example of the the way that things get sort of taken for granted as having historicity just because

it's been long enough that we sort of assume well you know that's obviously it's a historical artifact and you know cobbling together our various assumptions about the the context and the time

Unknown: and yeah just nope

Cortex: just absolutely no this was this that is not actually what the situation was at all and it's it's weird and

and yeah now so they really interesting post because of that

yeah yeah I just thought it was great so thank you similarly of long standing culture important

Unknown: Yanni or Laurel

Unknown: to do to do engage with a Yanni Laurel security and

Unknown: something is wrong with my head. I

Unknown: can't make it say, Danny, no matter what. I get my pressure. I use every slider, I try every different hooky version, I have every man in the world explaining to me what the

Unknown: waves do. And I

Unknown: get to understand is the overtones of foreman seriously

Cortex: all that is guy I don't know that I ran into anybody else saying like, they just couldn't get a period but a lot of people were saying like, Oh, well okay. This one tweaked version, I can hear it I can get Yari

literally can't get Laurel and I like I wonder if there's, like specific, you know,

Jessamyn: audio perception things that drive who does pick up what and when? I mean, I'm sure there are. But yeah, yeah. No. I mean, there was people write a little bit about kind of which things would make you more likely to hear one or the other. Yeah, it was, it was weird. But, you know, again, I would want to talk about it with my better filter. So that was fun to get to. I mean, what's always interesting to me about these kind of random, who cares things like cuz there's no value you can assign to it, right? Like, you just hear a thing or here. The other thing and they're the same, yeah. Um, is is what it kind of reveals about people's personality in that they can or cannot kind of accept the fact that other people can't hear a thing. You know what I mean? That like, I mean, it is sort of interesting for me like to listen and be like, I actually can't understand how somebody could hear something different because I am hearing a sound with my ears. Yeah, so clearly that sound is here. And I don't know what you're hearing. But clearly, your brain is wrong, like, but some people really, really feel that way. Whereas I'm just like, whatever, bodies are strange,

but that kind of idea of like, you know, what, if what I see is green, and what you see is green are actually two completely different colors. Yeah, we would never know because of our language. So that, to me, was one of the interesting parts of it. And just watching different people being like, you know, super complaining about it or not,

Cortex: but I do feel like I should try it with different speakers. Ya know, I like I I got I definitely got different results in a couple pairs of headphones and my desktop speaker and but there's definitely a weird I think the not being able to chase you anything down is maybe not so weird because I feel you like the default perception like for people who've like settled their brain and it seemed like a trend towards Laurel as for like a an ending point. Even if they were like, definitely, again, a person up front or could get Yanni out of it. It seems like to pick up more Laurel and I, I don't know enough about psycho acoustics to explain why that is. But I have this gut feeling of like the brain, sort of identifying the lower frequency patterns, and then just sort of really holding on to them. This is Yeah, I know what you're talking about. There. There's an interesting thing in audio production, audio mixing, where you can actually take a recording that has like bass notes, like like bass guitar playing or something on the piano. And it's got a very distinct like bass element in there playing a bass instrument.

And if you take that and filter out the actual fundamentals, the the the lowest tones, like you know, the, the low E that is the E of playing like a low E cigs guitar, you can take out that actual low E frequency and leave in the higher frequency overtones that you know, are also part of the sound of that. And Wayne will reconstruct that low he notes a whole lot of the time like your brain, essentially, even if those parts of it are missing. It's like the line or

Unknown: whatever the little fuzzy dots are like optical

Cortex: illusions. Yeah, like, like, if you hold your your hand out over the sidewalk, a sunny day at noon, and look down on the sidewalk. And you can see your hand You know, if you're looking at your hand and the shadow, you're like, Oh, it's my hand.

Unknown: But then if you

Cortex: block off your vision, so you can only see the shadow on the side looking cancer anymore. Like obviously, this is a very social metaphor. But I know I know you you can construct the reality of your hand being there, even though it's just implied by the the other shapes that leaves in the world. And yeah, I think it's the brain somehow just like Oh, I know. I know. This has to be coming from that note, you know, that's what this overtones belongs to. So that no, it's obviously there. Which is probably identify what you think the fundamental part of that note is. It's those big boobie bass parts. Yeah. And yeah, that's only part of what the note is. Yeah. So. So that may be part of it. That may be part of why Laurel sticks around. Once you've identified Laurel is like, it's still there. Even if you cut out some of that bass tone stuff by like, listening on teeny speakers or something. I don't know.

It was neat. It was a neat thing. Also, I just want to mention in passing as kind of a Haha, thing, cloud is shutting down or has shut down

Unknown: things where I was like, why are people talking about cloud on

Unknown: letting down because I

Cortex: haven't thought about it in a really long time. That's exactly what it was. And I love the fact that like with the news, that cloud is shutting down, people who had rightly realized that it was done with them to be excited about cloud years ago, are logging into Cloud again, right before the shutdown, just to be more detailed about making fun of the fact that cloud is going away as a chair by not the water post by not the water. Yes.

Unknown: So I thought that was funny. Did

Unknown: I come in

Unknown: the company that like,

Unknown: bought it, and then turn it off is called lithium.

Unknown: Lithium is a weird thing to call a company. I mean, everything's a weird thing to call a company.

Unknown: Well, it's also a an element isn't it is,

Unknown: but I think a lot of the people who know what it is, think of it as

Unknown: a medicine for treating depression, but also a really good Nirvana track. So

Unknown: it's got

Jessamyn: kind of like a, you know, like cotton balls. Ask,

Unknown: what do you call that chemical structure?

Unknown: Ah, which is Oh, yeah, yeah. That is sort of

Unknown: Donny with some wingman.

Unknown: Yeah, it's interesting. But yeah, I

Unknown: mean, I think for anybody who's you know, spend any time with people with mental illnesses to like, you know, take a lot of lithium you'd be like, why did you make your company that that's so up? But,

Unknown: ya know,

Cortex: I may just may not be sensitive on the subject of the theaters medicine and after

Unknown: Yeah, I mean, it is a cool

Jessamyn: but I mean, it's one of those like, diversity matters things right? Because, like I probably they aren't either and yet, there's definitely gonna be a lot of people are like,

Cortex: yeah, I want to mention one more, I want to mention a, a slightly deep cut and bring it back around to our Learn league discussion.

Knee Lambert This is a post that I'm just bringing up again, because I found it when I was googling reading

up so explain what's going on here. So so this this post I'm linking will tell you none of this because it's just a round up of some best wrong answers from past available to people who weren't,

you can see him even if you're logged out, apparently. Yeah. Otherwise, the post to death. This is from last year. This was a post by a man

Unknown: who recently Well, 2017

Unknown: Yeah,

Unknown: I was like from tomorrow. No, no,

Cortex: yeah, this is a week in the future from June 2018. I don't know. So. Okay. I'll explain this as opposed from management turns about a bunch of best wrong answers from learned league which the trivia thing that I'm not participating in to that we've talked about a bunch of times because I'm in and Madison and Secretary to now and bunch of other fights anyway, yes, this was a post of around up a bunch of funny wrong answers, you know, intentionally wrong answers basically. But the title of it is just knee Lambert and the reason I found this post is not because I was looking up learned leak stuff on meta filter but because I was looking up knee Lambert because knee Lambert is not the name of the actress who played Skylar white

on Breaking Bad that actress's name is Anna Gunn. But if you were say chats, you were cheating at trivia if you're a bar trivia and you're looking on your phone real quick to figure out who that who played Skylar white and you Google Skylar white you might get the Wikipedia page for scatter white or IMDB page for the white where it might say Skylar white parentheses knee Lambert princes because scholars it's French name means born as so that would that would be your maiden name yeah so so it originally scatter Lambert than she met Walter White they got married you became Skylar light so Skylar whitening elaborate but your your pub trivia and so you're like oh by the way was played by knee Lambert okay right sat down and so there's the whole news the weird thing last year where you know someone got caught cheating because they did exactly this and they wrote down the Lambert as the name of the actress instead of and again and that's the whole story and I found that delightful and I was looking for more details on the internet and I just landed on this post turns on meta filter titled lead lap Neelam bird and in no way discussing any of that inside the content of the post and I thought that was just the most perfectly oblique thing so I really wanted to bring that back around and say hey I see that now I saw that I get it I get that reference Captain America I get that reference

Unknown: if you want to call that medical term sorry Captain America

Cortex: Captain America in the new films like he's like Chris Evans like I get that reference on one because you know he was frozen after world war two and he woke up in modern America and like all of a sudden everyone's making references to things he doesn't get because he's been so everyone else can he'll get one and so he got a job at one point is like, Hey, I got that reference. Yeah, I haven't seen this sort of war against all of all were like have them

Unknown: do they kind of Yeah, I don't know. I'm not caught up either.

Cortex: freakin data toast, I gather. But,

uh, this was this was like probably in the first Avengers film, I think when that happened.

But you see, the new Jennifer was while someone will make a joke. And then someone will post a picture of Chris Evans is Captain America

pointing and sort of smiling and saying, I get that reference, but, you know, as a Jiff,

Unknown: so yes,

Unknown: the filter

Unknown: filter, I would like to start

Unknown: with this, um, post

Jessamyn: that I read, and I commented in, and then it had a happy ending. This is

Unknown: by a nice guy, nice guy who

Jessamyn: had a public speaking event coming up, and they needed to be the host, and they were freaking out. And I needed to know how not to be a out freaking mess. People gave them a lot of good suggestions. And then the very last comment is, you guys, I feel like I had a big invisible international group of kind folks cheering me on from the sidelines, etc, etc, etc. They,

Unknown: everything went well,

Unknown: they were very happy about it. And it just was one of those like, hey, everything made a difference. And it was just one of those good threads where people are hopeful and it makes a difference.

Unknown: Nice. Public Speaking

Unknown: was a nice thread.

Unknown: Excuse me,

Cortex: what happened there?

I've lost my tabs entirely.

Tell me more. Tell me more about nice things to filter.

Unknown: Okay, well, um, here's one.

Unknown: That's kind of a tricky question from not myself right now. Basically, hey, I've

Unknown: got a friend who's working with a school system. They've got a legal requirement

Unknown: that ed has

Unknown: to include an abstinence component,

Jessamyn: right? Ah, it's got to be presented by someone who

Unknown: isn't religious, you know,

Jessamyn: the ed stuff is kind of alright. But they need to do this part and the house and, and it's a mess, right? Because absolute education is stupid. It doesn't work like the sciences against it. But like, it's a real question that happens to real people rate like, the answer isn't going to be like, the man. Like you're hot. But yeah.

Unknown: So at any rate due respect,

Unknown: who is a you

Unknown: know Helston educator basically gives a bunch of sort of good information that answers the question has some actual curriculum that's useful, but it's also like, you know, most of this stuff is. But if you really need to teach this year, some stuff that's helpful. And I thought that was good, because I mean, what can you do, right? Sometimes you're stopped teaching stuff that is, but at least you can give people less stuff. Yeah, the sort of normal

Jessamyn: body shaming stuff and way to go. Super effect. You

Unknown: were super helpful. Yeah, it goes to me.

Unknown: Yeah, she's read.

Unknown: Yeah,

Cortex: I enjoyed just kind of partly just for the local flavor and politics of it. This question

Unknown: core j, courage,

Cortex: basically, hey, we're thinking about moving to the Pacific Northwest, where in Portland or maybe Vancouver, Washington, should we look for a neighborhood they'll be nice and walkable for stuff

Unknown: you ask them to filter a lot more

Cortex: I think it is too I it's nice. Some of the credit goes to the Secretariat who will occasionally just like next to me like Oh hey, check this out.

Unknown: Answer this question. Yeah, I can't answer that. Okay,

Cortex: thanks. But I think I think I found this one all on my own unless she sent it to me and I forgot in which case

I think I thought I think I was just working at I came across it for one reason or another but it's it's you know, they're basically where should we look and the question is interesting like people have asked like where should we look in Portland before but like there's definitely a temperature taking aspect to the answers because like they got a variety of questions people suggest and stuff I have my own takes on it

Unknown: but like

Cortex: I'd say a solid third of the questions were like oh I live here here's some nice spots also just don't move here just it's it's it's a bad time and it's it's it's weird everything's too expensive and you know I just wouldn't you know which is totally legitimate answer if it's framed up with other stuff like if someone who just like oh Portland and obviously not but you know people like well here's my advice and also here's my take that's all right but it was interesting seeing that as a recurring theme of so like because

I mean my own answer I'm like hey expensive like it's I would not be able to buy my house right now. And it's unreasonably expensive in some ways because there's just kind of a bubble right

yeah, like costs more than exactly the same real estate would in I don't know Vancouver, Vancouver far enough away to be cheaper or no, I think Ben who's a little bit cheaper than Portland. But it's gotten more expensive too because everything's been growing you know, right to some extent because people have been going to Vancouver because Portland's been expensive I mean the right price pressure on prices up there too.

And then there's one or two people in the thread like oh look you know it's expensive compared to it 10 years ago but like it's not the Bay Area it's not it's not Bushwick, not San Francisco it's not la you're not moving to New York you know if you can afford a house you can afford a house which is it's so weird that sort of like treadmill of like well but what's expensive because yeah I think like well I mean

Unknown: you know, Portland expensive, but it's, it's no, you know, Cleveland heights where you can really get a deal. But then you know Randolph, Vermont where you can buy a 14 room Italianate mansion for you know, $399,000.

Unknown: Yeah. zero dollar mansion for that. Yeah.

Unknown: Yeah. So, it's, it's weird that I'm always sort of struggling to find that link to that it's a mansion.

Unknown: But I don't know why anyone won't buy it.

Cortex: I guess probably a lot to bite off. But I won't buy it or a lot to chew. Maybe it's maybe even will understand that their fiscal mouths are big, or their eyes, eyes and mouth is corrupt. If your eyes are bigger than your stomach, then you might bite off more than you can chew. Am I marrying these two metaphors together successfully?

Unknown: Because, like,

Cortex: your eyes are bigger than the stomach. So you take more than you.

Unknown: But then you bite?

Cortex: Yeah, I think. I think it's because metaphors are bad. Mostly, like, they're, they're just there. They're good.

Unknown: Well, so, here's the Italianate man action. And this was two years ago, and the prices dropped significant. Oh, wow. Yeah, you get a real deal.

Unknown: Yeah. And it's amazing. But like, you know,

Unknown: hey, Jess. Man. If it's so amazing. Why don't you live there? And it's like, a giant mansion. Like,

Unknown: no,

Unknown: you're gonna have to

Unknown: be a Portland. You can just put on a sweater most the time.

Unknown: Yeah. What else you got? What else on it?

Unknown: I'm

Unknown: Oh, well, there were a couple of like, sort of interesting, like, nerd bait

Jessamyn: ones that I enjoyed in kind of two different directions. One of them was by cash, which talks about todos Africa. And how Mount Kilimanjaro really doesn't rise above the Serengeti.

Unknown: Oh, Chicago, son, Josh, how did you miss this, this is

Cortex: made for, you know, I didn't, here's what happened. This is what happened so many times with these, which is such a shame. It's a it's a professional risk. But you'll note that there's like a comment or two that have like flags on them. And I saw this thread starting at something that was flagged, and so I ended up like, sort of parsing it for context there and sort of looking around. And at that point, I'm like, Okay, well, I made a decision one way or the other. That was a little bit annoying. I'm done with this. And then I don't go back up and say, oh, but I wonder if it's an interesting, you know, and I

Unknown: probably did fact, because I love this thread. So much. So basically, it's about factual errors and songs. And like, my go to example, is always, you know, early morning, April 4 shot rings out at a Memphis sky. Martin Luther King was actually shot in the evening, which basically, me and badger doctor posted it almost

Unknown: the exact same time.

Unknown: There's a ton of them that are straightforward, right? Like the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald has a whole bunch of like, factual. Turns out the Edmund Fitzgerald was fine,

Jessamyn: but then a lot of people, um, you know, start getting goofy. So ricochet biscuit is like, contrary

Unknown: to what the B 52 state Chrysler has never had a production model that seat about 20 acres, a typical Well,

Unknown: that's an answer.

Unknown: There is no town called malice. Bob Marley didn't shoot the sheriff, or the

Unknown: deputy, etc, etc. So, you know, it's just a fun

Unknown: thread. And I'm,

Unknown: I hope you got

Cortex: I had one that maybe was also on your list. Maybe this was an extreme you're queuing up even. But this was from Kahala. Yeah, I've known him. I don't know how long I still totally

this question drove me crazy. Okay. Well, and rightly so. It was an interesting one, but I loved it.

Of course you did. He was asking you what mass now and that has, like, see the problems like I could read the whole thing. And then read the whole blood commented 1211 times in this, it's a total definitional problem. And that's also you should note, and I don't know if he said this in this in the thread itself or not, but he definitely had the flu. And he posted this because he wrote to me first say, does this question makes sense? I have the flu and I was that guy. I think it's, I mean, here's a couple things you can try and expand, but yeah, sure. I think the answer is going to be weird. I think people are going to have difficulty agreeing on what specifically You mean, but and then I

Jessamyn: felt like it was some weird contests that I didn't understand. Like, I didn't understand the question. I didn't understand the answers. Every clarification post did not help me understand

Cortex: it. So I just left it alone. I'm glad you liked it. Someone there's definitely some there there. But I think it is such a difficult issue of definition. And like, you know, being clear about what the terms are. And like, probably, really, we'd like a panel of linguists to discuss this for about an hour around a table speaks English as a first language, right? Or no,

figure out I have no idea if it's first thing if you're not, but he speaks English very, I mean, he

Unknown: knows his first language. Yeah,

Unknown: so yeah, I don't know. But yeah, I know.

Cortex: It's as I thought was very interesting. I thought it was kind of a mess. exactly the way it seemed like, it probably would be a mess if someone came up with the linguistic question while I had the flu. But I also enjoyed it tremendously.

I recognize that the resulting asked me thread was a little bit of a mess, but

I think it's in a way that's not like people getting into a fight.

Unknown: Okay.

Unknown: It there was a little people

Cortex: like, I don't know what you mean. Yeah, I think there was, there was some, there's definitely some, like,

push back on some of the definition calls there. But like, no one was like buttoning, and like writing angry emails to each other, as far as I know, so yeah,

Jessamyn: good point. Oh, hey, the other nerdy one that went with the one dirty one is just it's a variant on a theme that we see a lot on asked me to filter. So it's a by a user called probably not that Karen Blair Witch, I also think is a good

Unknown: username. But basically, it's that same old problem, right? Like, I really try and live my ethics as much as possible. But how do you do that, in this global capitalist country, enemy? And, and the user, you know, I'm assuming she,

Unknown: it's good, because she understands that it's kind

Unknown: of an impossible question. But it's just like, Look, this is difficult for me, I struggle with it. If maybe you struggle with it, what do you do feel free to tell me, I'm just overthinking it, etc. And so there's actually a really good thread where people are kind of thoughtfully trying to help

Unknown: and not just like,

Unknown: you suffer from cognitive

Jessamyn: distortions, you know, what I mean? Because the, the, the original poster, you know, left open a door for, like, I know, some of this is just my brain doing it to me. But I also would like to know how to live as ethically as possible. And so the resulting thread is actually really good and interesting and compassionate. Not just like, Ah, yeah, you know,

you can't, or you're doing it wrong, or whatever. So, I enjoyed reading along with it. Next,

Cortex: say, this seems like the sort of thing Angela might be into them. And they're saying, hey, yeah, this is important to

Unknown: know who the me fights are who, you know,

Unknown: have

Unknown: to live along those lines, right? Like, I'm always one of those, like, put on your mask

Unknown: your gas, mask your oxygen

Jessamyn: mask first, before helping other people. And so I, you know, got my particular viewpoint that I didn't think was necessarily going to help that

Unknown: thread. But I, you know, I'm always looking for, you know,

Unknown: wasted,

Unknown: be a little better. Do you do things a little better, basically. So, I appreciated that. Yeah,

Unknown: what else we got? I think, I think that's all he asked me I had to produce

Unknown: that was let me let me just do

Unknown: a quick look through some of the answers. I was, you know,

Unknown: kind of a

Unknown: kind of a heavy answer. There's a whole bunch of kind of like,

Jessamyn: Oh, God, don't be this person. One that I'm just gonna kind of skip. I enjoyed the chalkboard and whiteboards survey question thread. I did not do that. How old are you? Did you grow up with chalkboards or whiteboards? I think it's kind of us us specific. Um, but I was

interested in it, there's a lot of ones that I kind of followed along with, and I kind of wanted to know how it turned out rate, like, like, there was, there was, you know, a place that had my there was a person who friend, you know, needed some mushy food to eat who after surgery was just not feeling that good. There was like, you know, I'm bummed about Mother's Day, how do I kind of do this better? How appropriate is it to have a day of the dead um, sort of celebration at a mostly white school? That one was kind of interesting. And at the very beginning kind of this podcast month, you know,

Unknown: the person who needed a site intake place in Massachusetts, so I'm, I'm waiting for some answers or some follow ups on some of them. But yeah,

Cortex: our listeners patiently waiting for those answers is great. posting comments to tell someone to

Unknown: feel good. I got the email from you. That was like, hey,

Unknown: so how did your question help me brainstorm some birthday ideas for a milestone birthday question workout? And the answer is, I don't

Unknown: know. Still, like I'm, I'm a little closer to thinking

Unknown: about what I want.

Unknown: But unfortunately, part of it was having lots of people give lots of ideas and being like, No,

Unknown: no, no, no. Which

Unknown: I feel like people gave me a lot of great answers. And yet it helped me coalesce around the fact that I wanted something different so I still don't I still don't know

Unknown: I it's still

Cortex: yours on it's still throws me I forget about this. automated emails that come from me now, instead of from from Matt. Like, I get stuff, but it's still I don't associate it. And so every once in a while, I will get like a mess by mail from someone in response to them. And depending on the context, all right back to say, Oh, hey, yeah, but most the time it's like it's a throwaway response to a robotic email. But every once in a while I'll get like an intemperate Maffei mail from someone's like Well, I don't have a wrestling like Oh, man, I'm sorry, you don't. The robotic version of me. wasn't trying to give you a hard time or anything. It's okay. That's not your actual me. Yep. One of these days, maybe, maybe, maybe we'll still switch it over to a robot friend at some point. But I don't know there's probably some value in having a human on the other end. Even if most the time I don't actually need to

Unknown: human eyeballs. I think that's it

Unknown: for me with ask me. I had a couple things to mention. Let's do it.

Unknown: Well, one of them was we hit our one year anniversary at malt shop.

Unknown: Yes. Which we? I mean, I guess you and me the site we, among other

Cortex: do I am I a part owner, I still think I'm not I still think I'm part of this site, meaning your name is on the documents that are the articles of incorporation. But that's not necessarily you know,

Unknown: if I understood the law, you could have a better answer.

Unknown: So basically, you're a person on the documents,

Jessamyn: right? But we

Unknown: never gave stock out because I don't know how to do that. Yeah, so I own all the stock because I don't know how to give it to anybody. Okay, I would love to give you some only I don't understand, I prefer not to have it. I think it's,

Unknown: I would if I were you.

Unknown: I

Unknown: I own stock in a company. And that's enough. I mean,

Cortex: you get nothing that excellent. Yeah, no, I'm happy to be a token member of the the, the board, which I think is where I'm at in the documentation

Unknown: there. And I'm also perfectly happy to not be and I think probably what we're going to wind up doing

Unknown: if, if, like, everything I hope and dream works out correctly,

Unknown: is my sister and I are probably going to start like a nonprofit in the state of Massachusetts, that's going to have some nebulous hand wavy thing, and we're going to see if we can take over malt shop. So that malt shop will be I mean, with everybody's agreement, like this isn't something

Unknown: you know, I'm gonna take it over

Unknown: for myself, you're not supposed to talk about the plan before you pull it off. This isn't that

Unknown: the evil overlords operating at but then it would be owned by a non profit, which will reduce your tax burden, which really is the only thing that stands in the way of, you know, having this website be amazing forever.

Unknown: You know what I mean? Like, taxes

Unknown: are expensive, and getting a guy to do your taxes is expensive. So maybe we can have it on by a nonprofit. But the only reason that it's a year old matters is that many, many people there's a huge overlap between malt shop and meta filter users. And

Unknown: many many people renewed re up

Jessamyn: signed on for us again, chipped in some money. And, you know, just wanted to say thanks, because hey, it's really cool to run a tiny little website that keeps going slowly. Yeah, yeah. So the it launched today thing was something that dark posted in the middle of May in 2017, and I don't think there was like a, hey, it's a year old and that if we had been a little bit more on our communications, we would have told people that there with a renewal thing. Yeah, and I just wasn't I wasn't really I don't even know where I was. I was way out of town. So Oh, it was our library conference or something

Unknown: at any rate, um, yeah,

Unknown: so hey, thanks. And also

Unknown: meta filters turning 20 next year

Unknown: which I thought was this year because I can't read

Unknown: and never know what time it is so like bond cliff and I were like yeah, we should totally do something and bond cliffs like Yeah, but I'm gonna be in Canada and I was like, all right, it. We won't do anything and then he's like, but I won't be in Canada next year. I'm like, I don't care what you're doing next year. Oh, wait,

Unknown: and I email them back and be like Oh right. Okay,

Unknown: we just totally do something that it's next year right? Yep.

Unknown: So I think next year we'll probably do a thing in Massachusetts like me Jim other Jim Jim three all the gyms Yeah, yeah,

Unknown: every every champion gymnasium.

Cortex: I'm not sure if tapping on the mic to see if the thing is on works as well on audio as on video because it just sounds like there's actually something wrong with it.

But I appreciate I I liked the bit

you got in. So the important thing some fun chatting things another talk there was the new year's resolution checking update from just the other day like that. I mean, you know,

Jessamyn: right up there with eyebrows Biggie in terms of like, fun things, posted the meta talk. And it's not even his job. Not that eyebrows probably wouldn't do it if it weren't her job to but is definitely like, just I really feel like works to make meta talk like a nice place where people

Unknown: want to hang out and talk about things. Yeah, which is a good thing. And I really appreciate that. Yeah, it's

Unknown: great. All of eyebrows topics

Unknown: are great. And it's fun talking about stuff to fish

Unknown: to. And I also liked

Unknown: chicken update thread is for some people like a good news, bad news threat. You know,

Unknown: but I felt like for people who weren't struggling

Unknown: there would be people there who are like, Oh, you know,

Unknown: sorry, stuffs that going so good. Or how can we help or whatever.

Unknown: Exactly.

Cortex: You made three blog posts in January and gave yourself a C minus on your blogging resolution team is all around I'm giving myself on the F on blogging. Oh, cuz I've been doing a lot of art. So you've been doing a lot of art. Yeah, I'm getting myself in a plus on art for me. Yeah.

Unknown: But then Josh, where do you go from there? Well, I start

Cortex: establish expectations for myself. And then next year I great myself, Parker, because I've

set such expectations. And then I'm great myself for being unfair when all the other kids aren't doing as much art and why are they still getting A's and then I have a really problematic long term dynamic with like, reward versus anyway,

Unknown: setting up future Josh for success.

Unknown: Well, I should probably do that instead.

Jessamyn: Oh, man, I had a hand in my grades. And like, almost all my students got A's except for two students who failed.

And they really failed. Like, I mean, they stopped going to class seven. Like they super failed. But I still felt that failing them. But then I felt

Unknown: weird that everyone else got

Unknown: an A to so

Unknown: variance of as, I guess

Unknown: a couple got B pluses. But still, like the grades range from like, 88 to 101 sure.

Unknown: I don't know what that means about my teaching. I just felt like if they were all going to get A's, I would have liked to have just given them all A's and not graded 36 different projects that

Cortex: but i don't know i think i think there's something to be said about teaching as primarily a process and an interaction and at that point, like we're reading about the distribution of greatest are like, I don't know what maybe everything literally everything else that happened in the course of the class was maybe more important. Yeah,

Jessamyn: yeah, I think so. But yeah, still felt weird. So set yourself up for success. Alright,

Unknown: next year two plus

Unknown: thing

Cortex: next year, I'm gonna get an S grade which everybody who plays hardcore video games knows is the actual good grade

Jessamyn: I don't actually know except, but

Unknown: now it

Cortex: games where you can, like achieve grades in performance,

especially Japanese games, in particular,

tend to or games from Japanese publishers tend to be like, you know, D is bad seeds.

Unknown: Okay, be as good as great as

Unknown: means you actually nailed it. And

Unknown: super good job. I have no idea okay, somebody's listening to this please. What the hell that is

Cortex: makes a post about the history of s grades in video games. We've all agreed that that's somehow his job now,

but anyway, I didn't really mean to spend that long and grades I just wanted to also say I'd like this thread from violet you about like, do you use meta filter in joke jargon at home? Oh my god, which I talked to Secretary that anything else? Well, that's the thing. I mean, I talked about meta filter a ton like me and Angela, we're just going to talk about medical care a lot cuz you know, it's my job and I own the company and all this stuff like it's part of my life yeah, like

Unknown: medical tourism very much what's going on in my day to day life

Cortex: pretty much every day but I don't know that we use many in jokes

Unknown: and maybe just because it's so saturated like at a certain point

Cortex: I'm not gonna be like well I sure did want a DT MFA that thread I'm like this thread you know it's like

it's like there's a certain casual this they're

Unknown: good yeah

Unknown: but other gym Gemini mostly use kind of a hypothetical asked filter to work out some of our disputes you know where you know he'll be like wherever I want this and I'm like right I want this and he's like man my reasons and I'm like my reasons and I'm like yeah yeah your reasons but if we asked

Unknown: me to filter

Unknown: anonymously without

Unknown: our names attached to it

Unknown: you got to admit they would side with me because your argument is nuts

Jessamyn: and he'll be like and I'll be like look you write the question I'll post it anonymously we agree to do whatever the outcome is and that's usually when he realizes he is

Unknown: like with me he'll argue with me but he wouldn't argue with the entire internet worth of people that are also gonna disagree with them yeah

Cortex: oh there's also one more thing I should mention for meta talk is the best title

with that we did finished up and there's I just linked to a post with it so Johnny wallflower last month

proposed a best title contest

to basically just come up with good titles for your post and so we ran that through may just a low key thing we sidebar to it and talk about it and meta talk and and then it's June now so john

Unknown: yeah so it just happened

Jessamyn: just just graduations man of twists and turns mandolin conspiracy for 45 Superman Roger accurate why to Carl diesel w

city MC Joe zydeco Buddha in a bucket and the gaffer

Cortex: also the shape of wafer

Unknown: and the shape of Roger Aykroyd.

Cortex: Sorry, right right. So So yes, I I already I know I got I got all tuned up backwards on it anyway. So Roger Corman and fearful symmetry and rumble I just

Unknown: like reading everybody's name. Yeah it's fun and I'm you got to mention cortex because you had some

Unknown: Dippy bunch of

Unknown: frickin what this

Unknown: post. Yeah. Oh, how

Unknown: did I not mentioned that?

Unknown: That was really good. I mean, you know,

Unknown: yeah, your your title is ridiculous. But

Cortex: I you know the thing you think about my title. And I want to say and I should have tested this to see if I could get away with putting it non breaking space characters. But I was worried that entities wouldn't work right in the title for somebody. So I really wanted to there'll be more spaces on the farther out dashes on that title instead of like, but it's just gonna collapse them down to a single space because white space gets treated like that by brother because of what we talked about last night. Exactly. So So I ended up not fully realizing my vision with that title. And I probably could have tried harder but I got it and I think it looks good. And after

Jessamyn: a certain point, really, you gotta move on. Right, exactly.

That was a great thread. And we should have mentioned it in the regular old meta filter watching magnets colliding and 1000 frames a second

Unknown: is amazing. And it was fun if it's

Unknown: the same video that I saw, which I assume it is at the Venice end of it. They have the full speed Yeah. Oh, I see. I see how fast I was actually moving right that

Unknown: you're like, Oh, I was actually watching a thing happening. thinking it's a thing eyeballs can see and it's super not. Yep. Yeah.

Unknown: No, that's great. That was great. Yeah,

Cortex: it was it was it was funny. I probably found it on mulch up to

Unknown: maybe that's where I saw it originally. I could be

Cortex: a lot of stuff ends up in tabs and then by the time around making a post I've lost track of how it got there. So I should just assume everything is from either mold shopper mastodon.

Unknown: I like the fact that we're kind of

Unknown: a you know, old people nerd mean farm. Yeah,

Cortex: yeah, we're not we're not right on the cutting edge. But we get there three days later.

Unknown: Yeah,

Cortex: quick meta filter music minute because there's nice music and I liked it. The Vice Admiral neuroses posted this wonderful weird little thing called Lauren if some that is using vocal load which is a vocal synthesizer thing

being driven by drums sequencer with some weird stuff it's fantastically weird and this is exactly what you should do if you own reason is make weird like this so I enjoyed that a great deal there's a very nice sort of given me arrhythmia and now I it's great

Eric Randy posted nest mess which she described as a breezy song hanging out in LA and that's exactly what it isn't it's very nice

Unknown: Tom Petty yes at least beginning to it yeah

Cortex: there's something in that something in the drumbeat reminded secretary at night when we listen to this morning of the drumbeat from the start of shine by Collective Soul even though the rest of the song doesn't really sound like that

but that's all there's your drum news also q star been posted Viacom oil which is a weird little thing made using sampler on an op one synthesizer sampling its own built in FM radio to get little bits of things to turn into a drum track it's great it's super great

Unknown: and useless do it

Cortex: and then what did I just click on I just actually clicked on a list of Deep Space Nine episode transcripts

that's a link haven't used in like three years one more just as a chaser chocolate kept posting something called boiler maker and it's fantastic and you know Chaka Khan yes so there's your music

Unknown: your music minute

Unknown: and i think that's that's basically it you mentioned

Cortex: I've been paying any close attention to fanfare the last

Unknown: bit although we fixed a couple bugs so go for him but I've been starting to chat with people about movies I also saw super troopers to which had a very short fanfare thread


but it was it was good because we saw that the drive in in Vermont like you should and the solo thread was good and I've been following along with the now threats until SNL wrapped up and elementary which you

Unknown: know is kind of that Sherlock Holmes Lucy Lu and what's this but yeah yeah yeah

Cortex: I need to I should look and see if anybody posted nailed it because speaking of super diverse to one of the guys from Super true is true was on I think the last episode of the six episode run of nailed it which is a cooking show based on the concept of cake Rex essentially so this is like it was it was a j or wasn't one of the

Unknown: yeah he was just on Brooklyn die and the episode that we saw I mean

Cortex: you know it's it's weeks ago now in real time but we just saw it yeah two nights ago we're like oh my god amazing so he's all over the place he actually leaves the set in the middle of this episode because he has to go pick up his kids because nothing happened and you can tell the people on set or like you're really just gonna end but he came back to the end for the judging of the kicks So anyway, it's a it's a weird dumb mess of a show but Nicole buyer hosted it and She's hilarious and I should see if it got discussed on fanfare because on the one hand I don't know why anyone would but on the other hand who knows people post all sorts of stuff the fanfare so maybe other people also watch that particular genio piece of trash TV

so I should look that up there's there's mine fanfare news is I have no idea if anybody's posted this stupid show that I watched. You know, you might be pleasantly surprised. Yeah, I get a coin flip bots. It seems like it's entirely possible

Yeah, that's that i think i think that's a podcast I think let's catch up a little before Fourth of July because after Fourth of July everything gets a little hectic maybe maybe maybe maybe these two sandwiches these two podcasts will be gone for like a beginning like this one's a few days into June maybe we'll do the next one like the last couple days of June's of both in June. And June will be like the meat in a podcast sandwich now, but then it all just I just jumped straight. The word sandwich. I just said sandwich.

Unknown: I think the title of this is just gonna be sandwich.

Unknown: It's cereal. a sandwich is is this Oh man. What's

Unknown: Okay, I'm writing down. That's the title.

Unknown: All right. Good work. Good work all around. Let's uh, let's let's get off this train before flies off the court. great

Unknown: pleasure.